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District F5VE LC1, Layercake

D5 CSMNT 2...could they not just pick one name, jeeze anyway... THIS THING:

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I just traded for one of these, getting it Thursday - anyone have one? What are some thoughts on it?
 

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cool, post your thoughts once you get it. Myself I've been eyeballing it, still debating on getting it but I've got way too many RDA's now and really don't want to add to the collection unless it's outstanding.
 

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cool, post your thoughts once you get it. Myself I've been eyeballing it, still debating on getting it but I've got way too many RDA's now and really don't want to add to the collection unless it's outstanding.


Will do!
 

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Watching as well. Curious to see if this addresses all the things I dislike about the Templar.
 

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Watching as well. Curious to see if this addresses all the things I dislike about the Templar.


My Templar makes me mad, $40 down the drain after the zinc insulator broke - maybe even before that, because it broke while I was tightening the screw trying to get rid of terrible shorting at the post. Titanium screw, great, not great when the insulator can break that easily

I'll be more gentle with the Layercake
 

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I’ve heard from several folks it runs very hot, especially with the shorty cap. Cooler builds may be most desirable. Best of luck with it!
 

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I’ve heard from several folks it runs very hot, especially with the shorty cap. Cooler builds may be most desirable. Best of luck with it!

Thanks for the info. That affects my decision on this big time.
 

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I’ve heard from several folks it runs very hot, especially with the shorty cap. Cooler builds may be most desirable. Best of luck with it!


That's why I got to trade for it - guy likes hot builds like 3x26 or 4x27/36 aliens, I'm more into 30g though and just a little warmth :) Drop is his style, Layercake hopefully my style

Comes tomorrow!
 

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they posted on the instagram the heat tests with similar build between layercake and other RDAs like Goon. It runs considerably cooler or similarly. Idk tho, been waiting for another reviewer to tell on it. so far only ambitionzvaper
 

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they posted on the instagram the heat tests with similar build between layercake and other RDAs like Goon. It runs considerably cooler or similarly. Idk tho, been waiting for another reviewer to tell on it. so far only ambitionzvaper


Now I am very excited, I do love my Goons
 

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It's not a hot RDA at 70 watts, not uncomfortable to touch with my mouth or hands after dripping and taking 8-10 long puffs

I'll be trying different coils and coil placements this weekend

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I needs one
 

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I needs one


I don't know if its worth $55 - it is nice, very fun to install coils, can drip through the drip tip, smooth air and decent flavor (have to try different coils before I make a decision) but the "District F5VE" ring is super loose, and if you take the cap off it gets very messy very quick

Also still need to try it squonking, it's gonna be rad for that because of the o-ring in the base, and the air for single coil mode is just right (for me - slightly restricted)
 

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I don't know if its worth $55 - it is nice, very fun to install coils, can drip through the drip tip, smooth air and decent flavor (have to try different coils before I make a decision) but the "District F5VE" ring is super loose, and if you take the cap off it gets very messy very quick

Also still need to try it squonking, it's gonna be rad for that because of the o-ring in the base, and the air for single coil mode is just right (for me - slightly restricted)

I haven’t picked up a good rda in so long that the shinyits is bad.
Need a good replacement for my trusty goon. Localvape had it for 60 plus 30% off. Seems fair to me
 

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I’ve heard from several folks it runs very hot, especially with the shorty cap. Cooler builds may be most desirable. Best of luck with it!


Something to consider for the heat dissipation:

This RDA has an o-ring inside the base that will separate it from mods with flat 510 plates, lowering it's heat dissipation. I have it on a mod with bevels around the 510 and a sunken in 22mm ring - this lets the edges of the RDA touch the top of the mod which helps take heat away:

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This is with a pair of 0.25 ohm 4x30 aliens, too, not hot coils - I'll put in a 0.1 - 0.13 ohm pair and plop this on a flat 510 mod and see how that goes

P.S. mine has somewhat loose but great o-ring tolerances for taking off the top half of the cap, if you wanted to drip that way:

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I like to leave my rda caps on because, well, I just dropped and it rolled under my seat.
 
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Need a good replacement for my trusty goon.
That's only in your imagination.

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These SBTR caps are fairly expensive, but IMO they're so worth it. By lining up the air holes positioning them partly in front of the wicks the airflow can be restricted just the right amount and will hit the coils at an angle to stir up all the flavor depth goodness, same as with the Head Shot RDA... blowing new flavor chaser's life into the legendary Goon deck and into that old flavor chasing noggin of yours. :kickbutt:
 

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That's only in your imagination.

https://thevapemachinist.com

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These SBTR caps are fairly expensive, but IMO they're so worth it. By lining up the air holes positioning them partly in front of the wicks the airflow can be restricted just the right amount and will hit the coils at an angle to stir up all the flavor depth goodness, same as with the Head Shot RDA... blowing new flavor chaser's life into the legendary Goon deck and into that old flavor chasing noggin of yours. :kickbutt:
Cool! Definitely something to consider
 

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Cool! Definitely something to consider

I tried some 6x30/36 aliens last night, and even with only 4 wraps each, the Layercake got super hot. I would have to use a taller drip tip, but instead I will keep small coils in it and keep enjoying my Goons, otherwise :)

To be fair, it was 36g aliened and then 40g aliened over that
 

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This RDA is bad (for me). The loose metal ring above the airflow collects condensation and gets messy, and gets 100 times hotter than any of my 3 Goon 1.5 clones with same builds (even with a single coil)

The seeping is the worst. $55 rdas should have perfect tolerances, this one is loosey goosey
 

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Bummer about this rda Meg. Glad you put it out there though. Hopefully others will read this thread before purchasing this.

One thing I've noticed is heat seems to be a problem with attys that have these big blocks off metal for mounting the coils.
 

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Bummer about this rda Meg. Glad you put it out there though. Hopefully others will read this thread before purchasing this.

One thing I've noticed is heat seems to be a problem with attys that have these big blocks off metal for mounting the coils.


I traded an RDA I only used for pictures, anyway (Drop) so it worked out, anyway lol

I never thought about how (clone)Goons stay cool until I touched my Layercake and it burrrrrns usssss


Flavor was also well below (clone)Goon 1.5 btw, and then that loose as hell metal ring that's just for looks, and seeping liquid...ugh
 
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Here's the thing. This RDA is not built for low ohm coils - it just isn't. I got it for my mini predator which takes 18350 batteries. I built it with micro fused claptons at .4 ohms and cut off half the airflow. No leaking at all so far. Not hot at all. I like to drip 12 mg nic salt. So this is great. My only beef is the top cap - a little too wide for MTL. I rather like it.

I have the 1.5 Goon. For squonking it's okay with a build around .3 and I use the full ultem - never the SS cap. I would trade my 1.5 in minute (only have the squonk pin though).
 

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Here's the thing. This RDA is not built for low ohm coils - it just isn't. I got it for my mini predator which takes 18350 batteries. I built it with micro fused claptons at .4 ohms and cut off half the airflow. No leaking at all so far. Not hot at all. I like to drip 12 mg nic salt. So this is great. My only beef is the top cap - a little too wide for MTL. I rather like it.

I have the 1.5 Goon. For squonking it's okay with a build around .3 and I use the full ultem - never the SS cap. I would trade my 1.5 in minute (only have the squonk pin though).


I edited my last post to reflect that all my goon 1.5s are clones - this is important because apparently the air slots are larger on the authentic and won't close down as much without opening up the single coil air hole
 

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I'm turning this thread into a "I love clone Goon 1.5s" thread

Look how tight the air will go on these things (one dual coil mode, one single coil) tighter than I would use

- fully open is good for the types of single coils I use

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Here's the thing. This RDA is not built for low ohm coils - it just isn't. I got it for my mini predator which takes 18350 batteries. I built it with micro fused claptons at .4 ohms and cut off half the airflow. No leaking at all so far. Not hot at all. I like to drip 12 mg nic salt. So this is great. My only beef is the top cap - a little too wide for MTL. I rather like it.

I have the 1.5 Goon. For squonking it's okay with a build around .3 and I use the full ultem - never the SS cap. I would trade my 1.5 in minute (only have the squonk pin though).


On the Layercake, is there supposed to be an O-ring around the metal "District FIve" ring anywhere? Something may be amiss with mine
 

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I traded an RDA I only used for pictures, anyway (Drop) so it worked out, anyway lol

I never thought about how (clone)Goons stay cool until I touched my Layercake and it burrrrrns usssss


Flavor was also well below (clone)Goon 1.5 btw, and then that loose as hell metal ring that's just for looks, and seeping liquid...ugh
I hear ya on the goons. I have the original 22mm and it really doesn't get hot despite running 3mm coils with 6 wraps each and one of the three air holes closed on each side with a wide bore 510 drip tip. The fucking flavor is phenomenal on the little bugger.

So how long before you PIF the layer cake? You don't sound happy at all with it. Gonna make it a pretty shelf piece to show friends when they stop by? :p
 

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I hear ya on the goons. I have the original 22mm and it really doesn't get hot despite running 3mm coils with 6 wraps each and one of the three air holes closed on each side with a wide bore 510 drip tip. The fucking flavor is phenomenal on the little bugger.

So how long before you PIF the layer cake? You don't sound happy at all with it. Gonna make it a pretty shelf piece to show friends when they stop by? :p


Wellll, it is so easy to install coils, I can use it to check resistances or prefire coils and stuff for the bidness - or coil photography, if I ever get more time for that hnnnng
 

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Wellll, it is so easy to install coils, I can use it to check resistances or prefire coils and stuff for the bidness - or coil photography, if I ever get more time for that hnnnng
I didn't know you fired up your business. I clicked the link in your sig and you make some awesome coils Meg!!! Congrats. :cheers:
 

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On the Layercake, is there supposed to be an O-ring around the metal "District FIve" ring anywhere? Something may be amiss with mine
Two o-rings on the inner barrel but very small and thin and two choices for the ring - black and gold - I use the gold. It is a loose fit. But you can adjust for a tight draw.
 

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Two o-rings on the inner barrel but very small and thin and two choices for the ring - black and gold - I use the gold. It is a loose fit. But you can adjust for a tight draw.

I've got ss, graphite and gold - all three spin freely and wobble up and down (and collect condensation)
 

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I'm turning this thread into a "I love clone Goon 1.5s" thread

Look how tight the air will go on these things (one dual coil mode, one single coil) tighter than I would use

- fully open is good for the types of single coils I use

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Dual coil full open:

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Single coil full open:

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Goon 1.5 1.0:

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Bottom line:

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Stuck it on my TK stack with a micro fused clapton at around .38 - it works but damn it gets hot if you chain vape like me.Tell me that's not pretty though!

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That's only in your imagination.

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These SBTR caps are fairly expensive, but IMO they're so worth it. By lining up the air holes positioning them partly in front of the wicks the airflow can be restricted just the right amount and will hit the coils at an angle to stir up all the flavor depth goodness, same as with the Head Shot RDA... blowing new flavor chaser's life into the legendary Goon deck and into that old flavor chasing noggin of yours. :kickbutt:
Which goons y'all talking about. I've got a 22,24 and an lp. Maybe I need to jump on that flavor train. Got some dual staggered fused in the 22 and it's way too hot for a tube

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Stuck it on my TK stack with a micro fused clapton at around .38 - it works but damn it gets hot if you chain vape like me.Tell me that's not pretty though!

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Holy shit a tk stack? That's cool. I've got a copper, stainless revolver and black saw blade

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Which goons y'all talking about. I've got a 22,24 and an lp. Maybe I need to jump on that flavor train. Got some dual staggered fused in the 22 and it's way too hot for a tube

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Jeff Palladino (The Vape Machinist) makes a custom cap for the 24mm Goon RDA (1.0 or 1.5 doesn't matter, as they are interchangeable). I have both the copper and the brass. It completely covers the side of the deck, i.e. including the edge along the bottom of the deck so for the aesthetics it doesn't matter what color/finish your Goon deck has. He now also lets you choose between a few other popular RDA decks when you order this cap. It is 26mm diameter on the outside so it'll sit flush on the SBTR "Project Neptune Spear" tube mech by R6two, which is this amazing little gem:

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EDIT: The copper version hits so incredibly hard you actually might die the same way Osama Bin Laden died.
 
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Jeff Palladino (The Vape Machinist) makes a custom cap for the 24mm Goon RDA (1.0 or 1.5 doesn't matter, as they are interchangeable). I have both the copper and the brass. It completely covers the side of the deck, i.e. including the edge along the bottom of the deck so for the aesthetics it doesn't matter what color/finish your Goon deck has. He now also lets you choose between a few other popular RDA decks when you order this cap. It is 26mm diameter on the outside so it'll sit flush on the SBTR "Project Neptune Spear" tube mech by R6two, which is this amazing little gem:

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EDIT: The copper version hits so incredibly hard you actually might die the same way Osama Bin Laden died.

I like those mods.
 

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Im just gonna leave this here. Im a huge goon fan og,lp and 1.5's. Got a clone layercake on the way from 3f just cause every1 talks bout it and wanna see. Authentic aint happening by this guy...so if anyone has clone layer for sale while i wait 3 weeks more for delivery..holla at me
 

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Im just gonna leave this here. Im a huge goon fan og,lp and 1.5's. Got a clone layercake on the way from 3f just cause every1 talks bout it and wanna see. Authentic aint happening by this guy...so if anyone has clone layer for sale while i wait 3 weeks more for delivery..holla at me
Meg said it was a juicy rda. Condensation seepage

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I'm thinking maybe Meg got a defective one - I have a clone and an authentic, and neither one of them leaks, gets sloppy, etc. The main difference between the two is the airflow is a little wider on the clone.
 

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I'm thinking maybe Meg got a defective one - I have a clone and an authentic, and neither one of them leaks, gets sloppy, etc. The main difference between the two is the airflow is a little wider on the clone.
I know it looks sleek as hell. I may pick one up myself. Gotta buy a new phone today after work. Mine is practically a desktop right now. Spotify runs in it but if I get any other notify it dies. Boo Nexus

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I know it looks sleek as hell. I may pick one up myself. Gotta buy a new phone today after work. Mine is practically a desktop right now. Spotify runs in it but if I get any other notify it dies. Boo Nexus

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They still make nexus? Lol...Whats next? NOTE 9?
I cant wait to get my damn cake...im like a fat kid right now....I WANT MY CAKE!!!!!

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I'm thinking maybe Meg got a defective one - I have a clone and an authentic, and neither one of them leaks, gets sloppy, etc. The main difference between the two is the airflow is a little wider on the clone.
Your review was killer btw

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Your review was killer btw

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Thanks! It was really more of a comparison of the clone vs. authentic than a review. I may do a full review soon though. If anyone wants to see the comparison, you can view it HERE.
 

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They still make nexus? Lol...Whats next? NOTE 9?
I cant wait to get my damn cake...im like a fat kid right now....I WANT MY CAKE!!!!!

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6p was the last Nexus. 2 years old. Os update screwed everyone phone up. Just dies whenever. Just gonna get a burner that will work til tax time next year.

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