Become a Patron!

low builds

mokeife

Bronze Contributor
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
how do people dry burn low builds i use my rx but it doesnt fire below .1 ohms. more a nd more im seeing people online with .02 builds. how do they get them to heat evenly. and no i dont want to build that low im just curious as to how they do it
 

ej1024

VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Scrape
Pinch
Scrape
Make sure, screws are tight,not super tight!!


 

freemind

Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

Your device will not fire a coil that low, so why would it matter really?

Secondly, people building at the limits of their set ups are asking for trouble. Even IF they are educated enough to be building that low, they still are taking a risk of failure.
 

mokeife

Bronze Contributor
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
i didnt say i was going to build that low i just want to know how its done since most regulated mods dont fire that low and it wouodnt be safe to do a build on an unregulated mod
 

mokeife

Bronze Contributor
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Scrape
Pinch
Scrape
Make sure, screws are tight,not super tight!!


i know how to do builds i build a few times every week i was just wondering how you dry burn a coil you mod wont fire torch maby?
 

freemind

Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
i didnt say i was going to build that low i just want to know how its done since most regulated mods dont fire that low and it wouodnt be safe to do a build on an unregulated mod
You pulse the coils on low builds, just like you do on any other build.
 

mokeife

Bronze Contributor
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
You pulse the coils on low builds, just like you do on any other build.
i understand that but what if the mod doesnt fire as low as your build is how would you do it then. that was my origional question
 

mokeife

Bronze Contributor
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
You don't.

Your mod won't fire it, so you may as well not have a coil in it at all. It won't work.
then how do people have like crazy .02 low coils how would that be done? a torch?
 

mokeife

Bronze Contributor
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Because they are using unregulated mods that can fire anything, safe or not.
yeah i didnt think it was safe to do a build on an unregulated mod if i put a build thats not completely done on my lipo the pwm screams pretty loud
 

f1r3b1rd

https://cookingwithlegs.com/
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
VU Challenge Team
Member For 5 Years
VU Patreon
then how do people have like crazy .02 low coils how would that be done? a torch?
Yes some people torch their wires. That used to be the way we all did it.

Plus, some regulated mods will fire below spec.
The okl-t20 will fire anything you put on it, but anything under a 0.3ohm build is not recommended because..... It can/will fry your board.
Just an example, but not all regulated mods are created equal

Furthermore a mechmod is just a case with a battery... Press the button and the battery releases the energy to the coil... It's a circuit that does what all circuits do. And it does it when you tell it to.
If you build too low, the circuit can't handle the power and the battery can vent or have a thermal runaway
Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk
 
Last edited:

HondaDavidson

Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
First I only dry burn to clean coil at rewick. ... not on build.... second I don't attempt to fire any coil outside mod and battery specs. 3rd when I do dry burn I use a mech when I do use a regulated mod I do so in VW or VV mode at lowest setting that brings co

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk
 

raymo2u

VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Unlisted Vendor
The Hohm Wrecker G2 fires anything....I dont suggest building low purposely but Ive fired down to .02 on it...ALWAYS USE HB6 and AUTHENTIC VTC4 30a CD Batteries firing under .09 Ohms. Dont be a Andy!

15876734_1222743251144838_6454889010375426048_n.jpg


I also use triple and quad parallel boxes loaded with HB6 batteries.

e1ee3399a7d9eba86925c08c13ee6dee.jpg
19fafe4732c7be26f93fc29766d9196f.jpg
15802542_1214559948631371_6106442866316279808_n.jpg
15625460_1785465355038107_2231928992871481344_n.jpg


I dont own or buy boxes that cant fire under .1 Ohms, they would almost never get used for the purposes of my style of vaping.
 
Last edited:

Rabbit Slayer

Silver Contributor
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
ECF Refugee
Because unlike you they own a mod that CAN fire that low and they are taking risks that you should never consider

So now that you know how they do it is that good enough or do you want to know what mod they are using so you can be stupid like them and get one for yourself?
 

raymo2u

VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Unlisted Vendor
Any user that builds under .1 should
  • 1.) Know the risks
  • 2.) Consider the risks
  • 3.) Do research until they have a good understanding of Ohms Law and Battery safety before even thinking of touching a mod
  • 4.) Take responsibility of their own actions if something does happen...

We dont need more media against vaping. Building under .1 is similar to doing tricks on a ducatti...one day you will hit the pavement...the question is....will you blame the bike or take responsibility for your actions?

Some reading materials:
Battery Info
Ohms Law
WARNING: EXCEEDING THE AMP LIMIT OF A BATTERY WILL CAUSE A SHORT. AND SHORTS ARE BAD. OKAY?

Before attempting to use a mech mod you need be very familiar with ohms law, Amps ( I [current]) = Voltage (V) / Ohms (R[resistance]). Additionally you should be familiar with the extended version of Ohms Law: Watts (P[power])=V^2/R. Knowing this will make mech vaping a much more enjoyable experience than fiddling around with builds until you get it right.

EDIT: The basic form of Ohms Law has endless application when building for a mech because it tells you how many amps your build is drawing once you stick it on an ohm reader and get the resistance of your build. If you're using the most common batteries, 20 maximum continuous discharge rating (MCD rating), and your reader tells you you're working with a 0.3 ohm build then:

Amps = 4.2 (a fully charged cell, be safe, don't try to account for sag or inefficiencies) / 0.3

Amps = 14

You're completely safe. 0.3 ohms on a mech is also a nice vape.

Now, if you build very low, like 0.1

Amps = 4.2 / 0.1

Amps = 42

And you're having a bad day because there could be an exploding battery in a hard metal tube in front of your face when you take the first hit.

You also need to familiarize yourself Li-ion battery safety and mechanics. Specifically the rather obtuse C-Rating specification. It's rather infuriating. C-Ratings are how many times its capacity it can discharge safely and has to do with a battery's mAh rating. This provides an amp limit for a battery.

Additionally, you need to know about battery construction since, shockingly, sticking a powerful capacitor in a highly conductive copper tube without knowing too much about the terminals of a battery or where on itself a battery can ground out is a pretty bad idea. Li-ion batteries tend to explode or superheat and vent hot electrolytes when short-circuited. A sufficiently low resistance build can do the same thing. Hence the reason for needing to know Ohms Low like the back of your hand.

All of this is just the basics. You'll also need to know about battery sag, specific heat, heat flux, heat capacity, internal resistance, mod resistance. The list continues.

I don't really know how I didn't vent a battery when I started vaping looking back at how little I knew when I got my first FUhattan.

Basically, you have a regulated mod. Stick with it unless you feel like trying a mech out. Do a lot of research before ever buying one.
 
Last edited:

f1r3b1rd

https://cookingwithlegs.com/
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
VU Challenge Team
Member For 5 Years
VU Patreon
Any user that builds under .1 should 1.) know the risks, 2.) consider the risks, 3.) do research until they have a good understanding of Ohms Law and Battery safety before even thinking of touching a mod, 4.) take responsibility of their own actions if something does happen...

We dont need more media against vaping. Building under .1 is similar to doing tricks on a ducatti...one day you will hit the pavement...the question is....will you blame the bike or take responsibility for your actions?
^^^^ exactly this^^^^

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk
 
The Hohm Wrecker G2 fires anything....I dont suggest building low purposely but Ive fired down to .02 on it...ALWAYS USE HB6 and AUTHENTIC VTC4 30a CD Batteries firing under .09 Ohms. Dont be a Andy!

15876734_1222743251144838_6454889010375426048_n.jpg


I also use triple and quad parallel boxes loaded with HB6 batteries.

e1ee3399a7d9eba86925c08c13ee6dee.jpg
19fafe4732c7be26f93fc29766d9196f.jpg
15802542_1214559948631371_6106442866316279808_n.jpg
15625460_1785465355038107_2231928992871481344_n.jpg


I dont own or buy boxes that cant fire under .1 Ohms, they would almost never get used for the purposes of my style of vaping.


I'm curious why you actually prefer to build that low?
 

mokeife

Bronze Contributor
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Because unlike you they own a mod that CAN fire that low and they are taking risks that you should never consider

So now that you know how they do it is that good enough or do you want to know what mod they are using so you can be stupid like them and get one for yourself?
nope just curious
 

Brad Mitchell

Silver Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Building under .1 is similar to doing tricks on a ducatti...one day you will hit the pavement...the question is....will you blame the bike or take responsibility for your actions?
BIKES ARE DANGEROUS!!

B.S. stupid people are dangerous. Be it the person doing a wheelie in a subdivision or the person not paying attention to the biker. Stupid people are dangerous.

Similar to vaping. The people who throw a .02 build on a Chinese nock of battery or hell on a tube mod just to show off with their friends. But if they are smart and either only do it for coil porn or they put it on a quad parallel mod with 30 amp Batts and the voltage drop might bring them down to safe range. But it is still a risk. Similar to tricks on a bike or racing Nascar but both should be done by smart people who understand safety and have the full knowledge of the hobby they are performing.

Also are there any parallel lipo mods? I know lipo Batts have higher discharge than 18650.
 

mokeife

Bronze Contributor
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
BIKES ARE DANGEROUS!!

B.S. stupid people are dangerous. Be it the person doing a wheelie in a subdivision or the person not paying attention to the biker. Stupid people are dangerous.

Similar to vaping. The people who throw a .02 build on a Chinese nock of battery or hell on a tube mod just to show off with their friends. But if they are smart and either only do it for coil porn or they put it on a quad parallel mod with 30 amp Batts and the voltage drop might bring them down to safe range. But it is still a risk. Similar to tricks on a bike or racing Nascar but both should be done by smart people who understand safety and have the full knowledge of the hobby they are performing.

Also are there any parallel lipo mods? I know lipo Batts have higher discharge than 18650.
well put and a parallel lipo? never heard of such a thing or just a parallel mod in general? i have a dual 1860 series/parallel device and the parallel has a .09 in it
 

Brad Mitchell

Silver Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
well put and a parallel lipo? never heard of such a thing or just a parallel mod in general? i have a dual 1860 series/parallel device and the parallel has a .09 in it
I know there are parallel 18650 mods 2,3 and I think 4 cell 18650. Though if there was a parallel lipo mod you could have a mod able to handle really high amperage.
 

freemind

Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
BIKES ARE DANGEROUS!!

B.S. stupid people are dangerous. Be it the person doing a wheelie in a subdivision or the person not paying attention to the biker. Stupid people are dangerous.

Similar to vaping. The people who throw a .02 build on a Chinese nock of battery or hell on a tube mod just to show off with their friends. But if they are smart and either only do it for coil porn or they put it on a quad parallel mod with 30 amp Batts and the voltage drop might bring them down to safe range. But it is still a risk. Similar to tricks on a bike or racing Nascar but both should be done by smart people who understand safety and have the full knowledge of the hobby they are performing.

Also are there any parallel lipo mods? I know lipo Batts have higher discharge than 18650.
No, building THAT low IS dangerous.

Anyone with knowledge of mechs KNOWS that. There IS risks building that gawd damn low. You are a fucking moron if you don't think there is. Batteries get weak. Crazy shit happens. It all can cause a failure.

It doesn't matter how "experienced" you are. Shit happens. That's why it's a good idea NOT to do it. I don't care how good you think you are. Sooner or later when the hammer drops, the chamber won't be empty. You will have a mouth full of RDA and Mech.
 

Brad Mitchell

Silver Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
No, building THAT low IS dangerous.

Anyone with knowledge of mechs KNOWS that. There IS risks building that gawd damn low. You are a fucking moron if you don't think there is. Batteries get weak. Crazy shit happens. It all can cause a failure.

It doesn't matter how "experienced" you are. Shit happens. That's why it's a good idea NOT to do it. I don't care how good you think you are. Sooner or later when the hammer drops, the chamber won't be empty. You will have a mouth full of RDA and Mech.
I agree with you. It is dangerous. But so is going 300 mph. So is going into space. Also driving near a high school or a university. Again I stress that if you have the proper equipment and knowledge it probably isn't that bad. Not to mention I build a .09 dual coil for my tank and ran it at 3.5 volts. Nevermind what I used it on the point I'm making is I didn't use the full 4.2 on the setup.

I would also like to add people use to get all up tight about building anything less than 1 ohm. Yes 1.00 ohm not ".1"

I would light to reiterate that I'm talking about experience people doing this not a new vaper with jacked up coils that could short out or using a 3500 mah panasonic battery able of what 7 amp continuous draw.

Edit to add the Panasonic 3500 is a 10 amp battery
 

freemind

Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
I agree with you. It is dangerous. But so is going 300 mph. So is going into space. Also driving near a high school or a university. Again I stress that if you have the proper equipment and knowledge it probably isn't that bad. Not to mention I build a .09 dual coil for my tank and ran it at 3.5 volts. Nevermind what I used it on the point I'm making is I didn't use the full 4.2 on the setup.

I would also like to add people use to get all up tight about building anything less than 1 ohm. Yes 1.00 ohm not ".1"

I would light to reiterate that I'm talking about experience people doing this not a new vaper with jacked up coils that could short out or using a 3500 mah panasonic battery able of what 7 amp continuous draw.

Edit to add the Panasonic 3500 is a 10 amp battery
True.
But risky behavior is usually rewarded with bad/dire consequences sooner or later.

You talk about going into space, I remember when the shuttle blew up on live TV when I was a kid. I can remember countless stunt men who are "pros", being laid up in a hospital for months, or even killed.

Shit happens, even to the best of them. It doesn't matter how new you are, or how long you have been doing something. Murphy's has a way of chopping your nuts off when you least expect it.

You'll notice Ray will tell you vaping that low comes with many risks. Even if you know what you are doing, something can go sideways in a hurry. He doesn't lay it off like if you are really experienced, you've got nothing to worry about.

And to be honest, I don't like it when anyone might imply that, especially in a thread like this, that it "isn't so bad" vaping like that. The OP obviously doesn't grasp OHM's law, mechs, or much, outside or turning the wattage up or down on his device. I would rather new and inexperienced vapers be worried about blowing their face off, because it can and does happen.

So yeah, I agree knowing your shit minimizes risks. But we should always be hammering home the risks. You never know how many people that have made headlines for being dumb fucks, got info from here to start using mechs. All it takes is one guy in the crowd to make it sound easy and safe, and they will ignore the 100 other posts talking about risks and being safe. Then we all look bad.
 
i clearly stated that i did not want to build that low i was just curious as to how is was done read my posts

Settle down there sparky, I wasn't asking you! I was asking raymo2u.

Check my instagram...its not really something I do becuase I like to...its just something that happens.
https://www.instagram.com/raymo_2_u/


I like vaping on the other hand in the .08-.1 range...

Makes sense, that's a lot of metal so it's almost impossible to not go that low. PS those coils are beautiful.
 

mokeife

Bronze Contributor
Member For 3 Years
Member For 2 Years
Member For 1 Year
Settle down there sparky, I wasn't asking you! I was asking raymo2u.



Makes sense, that's a lot of metal so it's almost impossible to not go that low. PS those coils are beautiful.
sorry bout that
 

Brad Mitchell

Silver Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
True.
But risky behavior is usually rewarded with bad/dire consequences sooner or later.

You talk about going into space, I remember when the shuttle blew up on live TV when I was a kid. I can remember countless stunt men who are "pros", being laid up in a hospital for months, or even killed.

Shit happens, even to the best of them. It doesn't matter how new you are, or how long you have been doing something. Murphy's has a way of chopping your nuts off when you least expect it.

You'll notice Ray will tell you vaping that low comes with many risks. Even if you know what you are doing, something can go sideways in a hurry. He doesn't lay it off like if you are really experienced, you've got nothing to worry about.

And to be honest, I don't like it when anyone might imply that, especially in a thread like this, that it "isn't so bad" vaping like that. The OP obviously doesn't grasp OHM's law, mechs, or much, outside or turning the wattage up or down on his device. I would rather new and inexperienced vapers be worried about blowing their face off, because it can and does happen.

So yeah, I agree knowing your shit minimizes risks. But we should always be hammering home the risks. You never know how many people that have made headlines for being dumb fucks, got info from here to start using mechs. All it takes is one guy in the crowd to make it sound easy and safe, and they will ignore the 100 other posts talking about risks and being safe. Then we all look bad.
Honestly I think we are making the same points.

New people shouldn't do it
Experienced people shouldn't do it but if they are it's better because they know the safety concerns and have the info to operate as safely as possible.

While I agree that a new unexperience person should not build that low. I'm not sure how to put it but basically it better to be given some knowledge instead of just jumping in and experimenting and blowing something up.

Think of it like don't press the big red button. If you leave it at that people are going to be like well what will happen. What if I do it just once. Then boom self destruct.

Obviously these builds can be made people do it. If you don't say how it is possible and how it could be done relatively safe then some poor guy is going to try on a tube mod with a 10 amp continuous discharge battery or some knock off Chinese battery rated something lower and blow up.

This guy isn't all that uneducated I remember a thread he has about a lipo mech mod and what he had to say about the lipo, potentiometer and cont. Amp draw seemed spot on and much more knowledgeable than a new vaper. Hell he knew more than I did when I first started rebuilding.
 
Honestly I think we are making the same points.

New people shouldn't do it
Experienced people shouldn't do it but if they are it's better because they know the safety concerns and have the info to operate as safely as possible.

While I agree that a new unexperience person should not build that low. I'm not sure how to put it but basically it better to be given some knowledge instead of just jumping in and experimenting and blowing something up.

Think of it like don't press the big red button. If you leave it at that people are going to be like well what will happen. What if I do it just once. Then boom self destruct.

Obviously these builds can be made people do it. If you don't say how it is possible and how it could be done relatively safe then some poor guy is going to try on a tube mod with a 10 amp continuous discharge battery or some knock off Chinese battery rated something lower and blow up.

This guy isn't all that uneducated I remember a thread he has about a lipo mech mod and what he had to say about the lipo, potentiometer and cont. Amp draw seemed spot on and much more knowledgeable than a new vaper. Hell he knew more than I did when I first started rebuilding.

This^ I was actually trying to explain, (on ecf) the other day, that experienced vapers can go above CDR without blowing themselves up. I got chewed and told that you should never exceed CDR because you'll instantly blow up. Really? If you have experience and actually know what the fuck you're doing you can do some risky stuff. Disclaimer; I'm not suggesting anyone to build a .02 coil and vape it.
 

nightshard

It's VG/PG not PG/VG
VU Donator
Gold Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Usually I would say that everyone should be free to take whatever risks they want, as long as they don't hurt anyone else, but not in this case because:

1. Bad publicity is bad for the community.
2. Once something goes wrong people tend to blame everyone and everything else besides themselves.
3. Promoting/condoning bad vaping habits is bad for the community.
 

SirRichardRear

AKA Anthony Vapes on Youtube
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
Member For 3 Years
Reviewer
This^ I was actually trying to explain, (on ecf) the other day, that experienced vapers can go above CDR without blowing themselves up. I got chewed and told that you should never exceed CDR because you'll instantly blow up. Really? If you have experience and actually know what the fuck you're doing you can do some risky stuff. Disclaimer; I'm not suggesting anyone to build a .02 coil and vape it.
the limits we speak about here are known safe limits for people just starting. as others mentioned you can go lower without instantly dying but it takes knowledge and experience and it's risky. as someone else said it's like race car drivers. they can take a certain turn going 150 MPH but if someone wasn't a racecar driver and tired it they would likely go flying off the road. Just cause in theory something can be done, doesn't mean everyone is able to or prepared to do it. I seen people do amazing things. none of which i could do safely. I seen someone climb a sky scraper with no safety gear or harness , but i would never recommend someone doing that who just started rock climbing at their gym
 

MrScaryZ

VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 5 Years
i know how to do builds i build a few times every week i was just wondering how you dry burn a coil you mod wont fire torch maby?
why would you want to dry burn a coil that you cannot fire anyway? you can use a parallel mech box with the correct batteries to fire but unless you have a grip on OHM'S law how it pertains to regulated vs unregulated its kinda man like playing with a pipe bomb.
 
the limits we speak about here are known safe limits for people just starting. as others mentioned you can go lower without instantly dying but it takes knowledge and experience and it's risky. as someone else said it's like race car drivers. they can take a certain turn going 150 MPH but if someone wasn't a racecar driver and tired it they would likely go flying off the road. Just cause in theory something can be done, doesn't mean everyone is able to or prepared to do it. I seen people do amazing things. none of which i could do safely. I seen someone climb a sky scraper with no safety gear or harness , but i would never recommend someone doing that who just started rock climbing at their gym

Yep I wouldn't recommend somebody new to push their batteries. New people should stick to CDR unless they already have an understanding of batteries, ohm's law, etc.
 

f1r3b1rd

https://cookingwithlegs.com/
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
VU Challenge Team
Member For 5 Years
VU Patreon
This^ I was actually trying to explain, (on ecf) the other day, that experienced vapers can go above CDR without blowing themselves up. I got chewed and told that you should never exceed CDR because you'll instantly blow up. Really? If you have experience and actually know what the fuck you're doing you can do some risky stuff. Disclaimer; I'm not suggesting anyone to build a .02 coil and vape it.
Speaking for myself as an electrical engineer.

I would never tell anyone to vape above CDR.... EVER (as both a professional and ethical risk)

I will ALWAYS point it out and warn of the dangers; AND, GIVE sensible advice.
I'm also one of the more outspoken members here, when it comes to vaping safely and helping noobs find their way.

Is it a guarantee that something will go wrong? NO, nothing is guaranteed.
BUT, if you vape beyond CDR, that risk is inherent, and you're playing the odds.
Often times what happens is; there are other unsafe factors in play, in those cases it is only a matter of when will it vent.


- and no, I haven't been a member of ecf for 3 years.

We had member here saying how safe it was to vape at a 0.02. he claimed he was doing that with the same battery for 6 months.
We haven't heard back from that guy; but, if the battery was used that way for that long, homie was on borrowed time with that cell.

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk
 

MrScaryZ

VU Donator
Platinum Contributor
Member For 5 Years
Speaking for myself as an electrical engineer.

I would never tell anyone to vape above CDR.... EVER (as both a professional and ethical risk)

I will ALWAYS point it out and warn of the dangers; AND, GIVE sensible advice.
I'm also one of the more outspoken members here, when it comes to vaping safely and helping noobs find their way.

Is it a guarantee that something will go wrong? NO, nothing is guaranteed.
BUT, if you vape beyond CDR, that risk is inherent, and you're playing the odds.
Often times what happens is; there are other unsafe factors in play, in those cases it is only a matter of when will it vent.


- and no, I haven't been a member of ecf for 3 years.

We had member here saying how safe it was to vape at a 0.02. he claimed he was doing that with the same battery for 6 months.
We haven't heard back from that guy; but, if the battery was used that way for that long, homie was on borrowed time with that cell.

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk
haha another one bites the dust
 

SirRichardRear

AKA Anthony Vapes on Youtube
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
Member For 3 Years
Reviewer
Yep I wouldn't recommend somebody new to push their batteries. New people should stick to CDR unless they already have an understanding of batteries, ohm's law, etc.
really no reason too either. I don't even bother going that low personally. sometimes I'll wind up at a .12 which is fine to use in my parallel mechs/unregulated with VTC5a batts or HB6 batts. Last night I built a .2ohm for my mechs and i can use any batteries for it because most of mine are parellel and I'm only pulling 21 amps and i can get 30 amps easily from my 30q/HE4/HG2 etc batts in parallel. and it hits like a champ. No need to go super low
 

f1r3b1rd

https://cookingwithlegs.com/
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
VU Challenge Team
Member For 5 Years
VU Patreon
haha another one bites the dust
No shit bro!
I remember that dude too! Myself and @Zamazam had a long chat with the guy. He started getting a bit heated too!

Either he was full of dookie or on the front page of the, 'dont do that!' section of the paper.

I've often wondered what ever happened to that guy, and if he liked his new teeth


Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk
 

Brad Mitchell

Silver Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Seriously, without some risk there is no reward. Maybe I suffer from vaping too long. People were afraid of going below 1 ohm and going above 15 watts.
I think evolve didn't make anything above the 40watt dna due to being too dangerous or something. It's what I read on here not what I seen as an official statement.

If I take 10 x true 30 amp batteries and wire them in parallel would a .02 build be safe?

The main point I was making is proper knowledge and proper equipment.
 

f1r3b1rd

https://cookingwithlegs.com/
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
VU Challenge Team
Member For 5 Years
VU Patreon
Seriously, without some risk there is no reward. Maybe I suffer from vaping too long. People were afraid of going below 1 ohm and going above 15 watts.
I think evolve didn't make anything above the 40watt dna due to being too dangerous or something. It's what I read on here not what I seen as an official statement.

If I take 10 x true 30 amp batteries and wire them in parallel would a .02 build be safe?

The main point I was making is proper knowledge and proper equipment.
If you have ten batteries in parallel?
Yes you're pulling 200A at 4v with a o.o2 ohm build.

Sounds like the coffin mod

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk
 

Brad Mitchell

Silver Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
I would like to add he was merely asking how to dry burn perhaps for coil pictures. Ask raymo2u what his coil porn pictures come out to I could be wrong but I am willing to bet they are really low. Not sure how the vape would be at .02
 

f1r3b1rd

https://cookingwithlegs.com/
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
VU Challenge Team
Member For 5 Years
VU Patreon
I would like to add he was merely asking how to dry burn perhaps for coil pictures. Ask raymo2u what his coil porn pictures come out to I could be wrong but I am willing to bet they are really low. Not sure how the vape would be at .02
I've seen and used rays coils. He does some killer work!!!
He also knows what he is doing, and is very helpful. I was mostly referring to the glutinous amount of questions that I've seen lately from people who don't.

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk
 

SirRichardRear

AKA Anthony Vapes on Youtube
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
Member For 3 Years
Reviewer
I would like to add he was merely asking how to dry burn perhaps for coil pictures. Ask raymo2u what his coil porn pictures come out to I could be wrong but I am willing to bet they are really low. Not sure how the vape would be at .02
depends. someone like Raymo clearly knows what he is doing. people shouldn't try and imitate him without having his knowledge.

with that said some mods fire insanely low. The hohmslice and the Hohmwrecker G2 will fire a .02 ohm build. I'd also assume becuase i think i heard it mentioned that some people have dual battery tab meters that will fire that low but i can't personally confirm it. The other way as people stated is on a mech/unregulated which will fire no matter how safe it is. You could wire up enough batteries in parallel to safely fire a build like that as well.

with that said even experts make mistakes. even smart people do dumb things. it's hardly worth the risk IMO. In my line of work I cna't tell you how many times I had to correct mistakes from architects or electrical engineers. sometimes they just don't think right. Matter of fact i'm looking at drawings right now for a job where the electrical engineer must have had his head up his ass lol so i need to walk the job and rework the drawings. he has permanent wire as temp wire, 350MCM going in to a switchboard (which really isn't a switchboard) and 600MCM going out. he should have 4/0 in and 4/0 out. 3 runs per phase to handle the amperage. also they want to terminate prior to shutdown which they can't it needs to be terminated prior to the old backup powers removal or they will be unprotected. No way the current drawings would pass with NFPA regulations, Oshpod, or the IOR's approval. But hey the electrical engineers mistakes is good business for me LMAO. Thats why i get so many of them coming to me, I always fix their mistakes so jobs go smooth.

I once had an electrical engineer who was designing a house for a millionaire tell me only the kitchen needs to be backed up for a power outage, when i replied what happens if he's in the elevator when power goes out LMAO. they had to recall the meeting and they did an update on the plans to include the elevator on backup power. again even experts make mistakes
 
Speaking for myself as an electrical engineer.

I would never tell anyone to vape above CDR.... EVER (as both a professional and ethical risk)

I will ALWAYS point it out and warn of the dangers; AND, GIVE sensible advice.
I'm also one of the more outspoken members here, when it comes to vaping safely and helping noobs find their way.

Is it a guarantee that something will go wrong? NO, nothing is guaranteed.
BUT, if you vape beyond CDR, that risk is inherent, and you're playing the odds.
Often times what happens is; there are other unsafe factors in play, in those cases it is only a matter of when will it vent.


- and no, I haven't been a member of ecf for 3 years.

We had member here saying how safe it was to vape at a 0.02. he claimed he was doing that with the same battery for 6 months.
We haven't heard back from that guy; but, if the battery was used that way for that long, homie was on borrowed time with that cell.

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk

That's just pure stupidity vaping at that kind of resistance. I don't recommend it on mechs, but for regulated imho you can if you're just testing a build out, or maybe cloud chasing. I've only exceeded CDR once and that was because I was testing a new build out. I pulsed for two seconds with a 20 second break between pulses.
 

Brad Mitchell

Silver Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Member For 3 Years
Yeah I get it but I personally don't like when people's answer to a question is that's too low you shouldn't do it. Or you are stupid for asking Yada Yada. People can't learn that way then they end up trying anyways because they want to with out any info on how to relatively safe.

Let's bring raymo2u into this yall say he is experienced. Let's rewind to when he wasn't. He had to learn somehow. Hopefully someone stood up and pointed him in the right direction instead of saying hey don't go that low there is no need. Keep it above 1 ohm.

Though I would like to see some of his intricate builds built to be above 1ohm that would actually be cool lol
 

f1r3b1rd

https://cookingwithlegs.com/
Staff member
Senior Moderator
VU Donator
Diamond Contributor
VU Challenge Team
Member For 5 Years
VU Patreon
That's just pure stupidity vaping at that kind of resistance. I don't recommend it on mechs, but for regulated imho you can if you're just testing a build out, or maybe cloud chasing. I've only exceeded CDR once and that was because I was testing a new build out. I pulsed for two seconds with a 20 second break between pulses.
Agreed... Depending on the regulated mod.
An okl board, for example would fry

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk
 

VU Sponsors

Top