Flavor wise the Apocalypse Gen 2 is about the same as my old version 24mm Goon RDA so between these two it really does boil down to preferences, but IMO both my Goon 1.5 and my Mini Buddha 2 are slightly better flavor, albeit now I'm comparing the two Goon RDAs to the Apocalypse Gen 2 by using a (relatively expensive) Half Moon Mods acrylic Goon-compatible drip tip on each Goon... the Apocalypse Gen 2 is not compatible with these drip tips so considering prices I have to consider that a major con for the Apocalypse Gen 2. Between my gold Goon 1.5 and my naval brass Mini Buddha 2 it boils down to whether I'm going to need the long screws and clamping system as well as the extra build space of the Goon 1.5 to fit my coil build because, those coil builds that don't require it, the Mini Buddha 2 is offering clear advantages─including a 7mm deep juice well. Price/performance the Mini Buddha 2 is neck and shoulders above the competition... it having a fully gold plated build deck and all, AND it's giving me better flavor than the (IMO severely) overpriced Apocalypse Gen 2. But I can understand people wanting to hang on to the hype so I'm not expecting my conclusions to change anybody's mind... here or anywhere else.