Multiple URGENT battery questions!

[Dalton801]

Luckily I own a sony vtc 4, so far it's been amazing. But this whole venting thing I've been hearing about scares me.. So tell me, what kind of signs should I look for to avoid blowing my hand off? Physical changes, temp, etc..
Also, I mostly use my copper pegasus, tis my baby, and I was wondering, where the hell are the vent holes?!

 

[Daniel]

The best way I can tell you about venting signs is, the mod will suddenly become very very VERY hot. To the point you will NOT be able to hold it. And this will happen in a matter of seconds. There might be other obvious signs too, but this is the way it happened with me. And I had to drop it immediately. Screw what scratches might happen to the mod, gotta get rid of the thing NOW....!! LOL..

As for your Pegasus, I've never had one so I don't know where the vent holes would or should be...sorry....

 

[hazozita]

+1 to what Daniel said. The entire mod gets real hot real fast. Holy shit type of hot. No mistaking that there's a problem going on when there's a major failure. Warning signs that something is not as it should is a hot button. While that's not as major as the whole mod heating up, it's telling you to stop and figure out what the problem is before vaping again. A mod heating up should never be ignored.

As to the Pegasus venting, as I recall the original has the vent holes in the switch which allow air (or gases) to pass from the tube through the switch to the outside.

 

[Dalton801]

The best way I can tell you about venting signs is, the mod will suddenly become very very VERY hot. To the point you will NOT be able to hold it. And this will happen in a matter of seconds. There might be other obvious signs too, but this is the way it happened with me. And I had to drop it immediately. Screw what scratches might happen to the mod, gotta get rid of the thing NOW....!! LOL..

As for your Pegasus, I've never had one so I don't know where the vent holes would or should be...sorry....

+1 to what Daniel said. The entire mod gets real hot real fast. Holy shit type of hot. No mistaking that there's a problem going on when there's a major failure. Warning signs that something is not as it should is a hot button. While that's not as major as the whole mod heating up, it's telling you to stop and figure out what the problem is before vaping again. A mod heating up should never be ignored.

As to the Pegasus venting, as I recall the original has the vent holes in the switch which allow air (or gases) to pass from the tube through the switch to the outside.

Thanks guys! I'll be on the lookout. I took my button end off and unlocked it, I blew through it and it does have airflow, so I found out that it does. Also, have you guys ever had a battery malfunction? And if so, what did you do or what happened to make it heat up so quickly?

 

[hazozita]

It happened with me a little over a year ago while using a Sigeli 8W and a rebuilt Protank coil in a RAT tank. It was not a low-ohm build (about 1.1 or 1.2) but it shorted out after a few puffs. When I pressed the button it didn’t fire and within a second or two the entire mod got super hot. Dropped it, unscrewed the top cap as quickly as I could and dropped the battery out onto the floor. Way too hot to pick up. Left it alone for a while until it cooled then put the battery on a meter and found it had discharged down to under 2v (it was freshly charged prior to the short). Tossed the battery. Started double-checking my builds before using them.

The only other time I had a malfunction was a year or so before that with a Silver Bullet and a Vivi Nova using a store-bought head. Put in a new head, fired it, it shorted and the hot spring in the SB collapsed. Not as dramatic as with the Sigeli, but sill a pain since I didn't have a spare hot spring and it took a few weeks before they were in stock. Bought four and (of course) once I had spares I haven't had a spring collapse since.

 

[Celtic Fog]

One thing I have learned to watch and or keep an eye on, is the center pin on your atty, if the delrin insulator fails or gets nicked up, the center pin can touch the side of the male 510 thread. This happened on my Kanger Giant tank, rendering it useless, thank god I had it on a regulated device and not a mech mod lol, it read short and shut off the power. I would wager that this is the culprit for many mods going into short mode and causing batteries to vent. The RDA's that are cheaper or less expensive clones will most likely be more affected by this issue as the well made ones have better insulators and pins. Fatdaddyvapes.com sells replacement insulators in a few common sizes, probably worth having some on hand. Also, keep your threads on your mod clean, keep your battery wrappers nice and clean and free from nicks and or scratches as well, if your battery gets scratched, just rewrap them, easy to do with a hair dryer!

Here is a link to Fatdaddys.com shop page, lots of goodies for us vapernauts. Including the delrin inserts
http://www.fatdaddyvapes.com/shop.html

Here is a link to the battery wrappers I use, I rewrap all my new batteries, some mods will allow for double wrap as well, extra protection!
These are for 18650 batteries, they come in multiple colors as well as translucent colors and clear for those who prefer to double wrap.
http://www.illumn.com/batteries-cha...pvc-wrap-safety-orange-pre-cut-10-pieces.html

keeping your threads clean and clear of debris is important due to the fact they complete your negative current. You can use steel wool and be soft when cleaning the threads, then you can use a conductivity grease to help protect your threads and help with current. Here is a link to some.
http://www.illumn.com/pv-devices-dr...l-electrical-grade-conductive-grease-2oz.html

Here is a link to a fitting brush, be gentle with them, you can also pick this up at any homedepot ,lowes or any other plumbing supply house.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-1-2-in-Heavy-Duty-Fitting-Brush-80-718-111/204258908

I would recomend getting an ohm meter to make sure your resistance is suitable for your battery type as well.
http://www.lightningvapes.com/products/cartomizer-and-atomizer-ohm-meter

and lastly, get a battery charger that will tell you what volts your batteries are before and during charge, it will help you get used to recognizing the volt drop and usage of your battery. Something I am still learning as well
http://www.illumn.com/batteries-chargers-and-powerpax-carriers/chargers/nitecore-d4-digicharger.html

and if you feel your loosing to much voltage when firing your mod, one of these fellows wouldn't hurt. More for testing your mods ability to fire hard or soft. Not the most important, but could help you find when you might be incurring a problem or when a problem is arising.
http://www.lightningvapes.com/products/assembled-volt-indicator-inline-meter-clear

I have used all of the websites listed above and can vouch for their integrity and great service.

 

[Saddletramp1200]

I have two habits that hate each other. I hate weak batteries. Sometimes I set a Mod down without the lock ring on. It destroys Attys. Been lucky no fires.

 

[Daniel]

I have two habits that hate each other. I hate weak batteries. Sometimes I set a Mod down without the lock ring on. It destroys Attys. Been lucky no fires.

I put my Stingray down a couple of times without the lock ring on, & it scared the hell out of me. Now my Stingrays are my backups, and I went with 2 Fuhattans, 1 black, and 1 gun metal grey, & they have the bottom button with a rare earth magnet, no locking ring. They are impossible to get to fire when you set them down. Less worry, less stress. And I love the sleek look of them with my Vulcans.

You might want to consider trying out a Fuhattan, I think you would be really pleased with one. I got both of mine from a very reputable vendor on Ebay I've been dealing with for a couple of years. Never a problem.

 

[Daniel]

One thing I have learned to watch and or keep an eye on, is the center pin on your atty, if the delrin insulator fails or gets nicked up, the center pin can touch the side of the male 510 thread. This happened on my Kanger Giant tank, rendering it useless, thank god I had it on a regulated device and not a mech mod lol, it read short and shut off the power. I would wager that this is the culprit for many mods going into short mode and causing batteries to vent. The RDA's that are cheaper or less expensive clones will most likely be more affected by this issue as the well made ones have better insulators and pins. Fatdaddyvapes.com sells replacement insulators in a few common sizes, probably worth having some on hand. Also, keep your threads on your mod clean, keep your battery wrappers nice and clean and free from nicks and or scratches as well, if your battery gets scratched, just rewrap them, easy to do with a hair dryer!

Here is a link to Fatdaddys.com shop page, lots of goodies for us vapernauts. Including the delrin inserts
http://www.fatdaddyvapes.com/shop.html

Here is a link to the battery wrappers I use, I rewrap all my new batteries, some mods will allow for double wrap as well, extra protection!
These are for 18650 batteries, they come in multiple colors as well as translucent colors and clear for those who prefer to double wrap.
http://www.illumn.com/batteries-cha...pvc-wrap-safety-orange-pre-cut-10-pieces.html

keeping your threads clean and clear of debris is important due to the fact they complete your negative current. You can use steel wool and be soft when cleaning the threads, then you can use a conductivity grease to help protect your threads and help with current. Here is a link to some.
http://www.illumn.com/pv-devices-dr...l-electrical-grade-conductive-grease-2oz.html

Here is a link to a fitting brush, be gentle with them, you can also pick this up at any homedepot ,lowes or any other plumbing supply house.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-1-2-in-Heavy-Duty-Fitting-Brush-80-718-111/204258908

I would recomend getting an ohm meter to make sure your resistance is suitable for your battery type as well.
http://www.lightningvapes.com/products/cartomizer-and-atomizer-ohm-meter

and lastly, get a battery charger that will tell you what volts your batteries are before and during charge, it will help you get used to recognizing the volt drop and usage of your battery. Something I am still learning as well
http://www.illumn.com/batteries-chargers-and-powerpax-carriers/chargers/nitecore-d4-digicharger.html

and if you feel your loosing to much voltage when firing your mod, one of these fellows wouldn't hurt. More for testing your mods ability to fire hard or soft. Not the most important, but could help you find when you might be incurring a problem or when a problem is arising.
http://www.lightningvapes.com/products/assembled-volt-indicator-inline-meter-clear

I have used all of the websites listed above and can vouch for their integrity and great service.

Celtic, I ordered me 4 of the Efest batteries you spoke of, after I did some research on them through a website with different options, like battery draw, & coil building & such. Found out that I had indeed been mistaken about them, & should be using them in my Fuhattans with my Vulcans. Thanks for the heads up.

Now, I have plenty of batteries for anything I need, still have my vtc 4's, & my Samsung 20a's, & with the new Efest 35a's, I should be in good shape. About 8 Samsung 18650's, 6 Sony VTC4's, & now 4 Efest. lol. If the Efest turn out to be as good as I hope they are, I'll let a friend use my vtc4's & just keep Samsung & Efest batteries on hand.

I've been keeping tabs on my use of the Samsung's, & I find I am using 3 batteries a day with them, & when I put them on the charger every morning, they are usually around 3.24, so I feel like I'm not sucking them all the way down to where the inside chemistry is changing, so that's good....I hope...

 

[Dalton801]

I try not to drain my vtc4 to the last drop of power. I have a few times, but I feel like it's just like driving a car with no gas, it'll fuck up the innards of a car. I've been thinking about using one of those safety things that shut the battery off if it starts to have a meltdown. It's not 100% reliable, but they say it's like a condom, just that extra layer of defense.

 

[Celtic Fog]

I try not to drain my vtc4 to the last drop of power. I have a few times, but I feel like it's just like driving a car with no gas, it'll fuck up the innards of a car. I've been thinking about using one of those safety things that shut the battery off if it starts to have a meltdown. It's not 100% reliable, but they say it's like a condom, just that extra layer of defense.

if your talking about the kick or the kick2, they are great safety features but they dramatically drop the amount of watts you will get on your mechanical mod.

 

[Dalton801]

It's not the kick, it was something like "vapesafe" I don't remember, I'll post when I do. They sell them at a few shops around here, and was planning on seeing how well they work.

if your talking about the kick or the kick2, they are great safety features but they dramatically drop the amount of watts you will get on your mechanical mod.