Natural flavoring?

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  1. NW_raiderfn

    NW_raiderfn New Member

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    Is there any comcentrates that are not "tfa"dixotene or whatever flavored?

    Maybe essential oil mixes? Or some kind of extracting of actual fruits and stuff?

    Or is these artificial flavors all we have?

    Fyi, all i have currently is food grade pg/vg


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  2. nightshard

    nightshard It's VG/PG not PG/VG VU Donator Gold Contributor Member For 4 Years

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    Oil based flavors are not suitable for vaping.
    The fact that a flavor is fully or partially artificial doesn't make it bad.

    Artificial flavors are used for several reasons:
    In some cases it's hard to reach the desired concentration from a natural extract.
    In some cases the extract will not smell or taste anything like the product it was extracted from or have an aftertaste.
    In some cases there will be virtually no difference between the extract and the artificial molecule(s).
    In some cases it is not cost effective to extract from a natural source.
     
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    Thank you for your reply. In short, we have no idea what is in these flavorings, and we ingest them into our lungs?
     
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    nightshard It's VG/PG not PG/VG VU Donator Gold Contributor Member For 4 Years

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    This depends on the manufacturers.
    Some manufacturer will supply a full list of chemicals and some will not, so if using flavors from the ones that do we will know EXACTLY whats in the juice.
     
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    What are some of the most transparent manufacturers?
     
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    lordmage Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Gold Contributor ECF Refugee Member For 5 Years

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    https://www.nudenicotine.com/ is one I can think of most of there stuff is highly tested and they do provide test results digitally and sometime with your shipment
     
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    Huckleberried Terrible wingman. Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 5 Years

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    TFA's website gives the MSDS info, FlavourArt has their vaping line of flavors and has published their clearstream process, or whatever it is they call it, Capella has Certificates of Analysis on their site, FW hasn't always been quite as transparent, but says they are, lol. Sometimes you just have to look around on the manufacturers pages to find the info for their flavorings.

    Someone carries an organic line of flavorings, but I can't recall their name. I know some here have used them, so hopefully those peeps will stop by.
     
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    KDodds Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years ECF Refugee

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    Just some food for thought, "natural" does not mean "safe", and "artificial" does not mean dangerous. For example, arsenic occurs naturally, but I wouldn't vape it. And PG is, of course, artificial, but it's the safest and most tested thing in our juices. In fact, with "artificial" flavors, at least we know there has been SOME testing involved, and an approval process for at least oral administration.
     
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    Heabob Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    Extracting doesn't work so well either as all plants, fruits, etc., have some sugar, and other things, way too hard for us to remove.
    All those things cause excessive coil gunking, and may not be safe to vape either.
    You can always just vape unflavored...
     
  10. Rabbit Slayer

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    So if I tell you exactly what I ate yesterday you'd vape my poop, I mean, it is 100% natural after all
     
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    Huckleberried Terrible wingman. Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 5 Years

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    NEXT!
     
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    Jimi D Gold Contributor Member For 4 Years ECF Refugee

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    Artificial raspberry comes from beaver boongie hole. Is that better ? :giggle:
     
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    :kickbutt:
     
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    Heabob Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    Maybe that's why I hate Raspberry so much:blech:
     
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    BKTOAD Silver Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    Also the source of a key component in artificial vanilla flavorings.
     
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    Jimi D Gold Contributor Member For 4 Years ECF Refugee

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    Absolutely.
     
  17. KDodds

    KDodds Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years ECF Refugee

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    Snopes that beaver butt hole juice. It's mostly mytthical. But, hey, it is all natural, right?
     

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