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  1. El Chemist

    El Chemist New Member

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    Hi everyone i'm sure this might have been covered somewhere here but i can't find exactly what i need, I just bought the SMOK AL85 , I followed through all the tutorials and instructions primed it for 30 minutes before vaping, I'm using the .4 ohm coil that came standard with it. After about 5 pulls at 40 w's (the recommended setting for this ohm) i get no flavor... is this just the stock coils that come with it straight out the box or could there be another possible problem...

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    Kranky Kanger New Member

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    Smok coils are known to have tight wicks, not all but some. This tends to slow the wicking of the juice through to the coil.Try poking a hole or two in the cotton with a needle. Don't go overboard, just a couple of holes will do. If that solves the problem then you're golden. Just one question, how quickly are you taking those 5 pulls. If one right after the other (chain vaping) you may simply be drying out the wick. Just my thoughts.
     
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    yes they were I guess what you called chain vaping, I've changed out the preinstalled coil to the .6ohm and vaping at 25w now... the flavor isn't the same as those first few pulls but I am getting some flavor now, which is much better then not having any at all.... do you have any coil suggestions for the baby beast that might keep a full flavor longer... I'm currently using a 70% VG / 30% PG flavor .
     
  4. eStorm

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    None of them do due to the horrible wicking and garbage wire, however if primed right and if you literally babysit your coil, you can get mediocre or lightly better results with the x4, in comparison to your Q2's. Keep them between 45-51 watt and don't use the recommended wattage by smok, or these will need to be replaced fairly quickly ( once a day or latest after 2 days) and nobody got time or money for that. The other one is the x8 I think they are called, but need much higher wattage, however these work with even milder juices while any other coil for the baby tank, does only work with extremely bold and over sweetened juices, my opinion tho.

    Do yourself a favor and get a other tank with cheaper but better performing coils, for example the uwell crown tanks. Or start rebuilding, moment you go that route you'll never look back lol. Smok is and still will be the last garbage available as of right now.
     
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    El Chemist New Member

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    How would I go about rebuilding? I went out and bought the smok v8 Baby-T8 coils and I’m getting a decent flavour from it at 40w even though their recommended is 50-110w. How much am I looking at getting into price wise for a rebuild? So disappointing that no one has told me before I went out and bought the baby beast tank ... I couldn’t really find anything terrible about it when I purchased it. Could you give me a link to something better I can look at buying ?
     
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    Sure, please keep in mind tho, that when it comes to hardware and juices everybody have different preferences, however I'm going to list a couple of items that helped me as I started and wished somebody would have mentioned. But just because I like it won't mean its the same for you. You still would have to do some research via forum or YouTube about wicking, coils in general. As well as what's an RBA, RTA and Rdta . either way all of them fall under the main category rebuildables and do save you money in the long run, as well as giving you a more customable vaping experience.

    I would highly suggest a RTA or RDTA at the beginning, with a decent sized built deck (22 or 24 mm) that's velocity style. Its very easy to build on and won't be as frustrating, while learning. RDTA is great if you're mostly vaping at home, while some newer models might not have that issue, my experience was that this is not something you want when being on the road. Most will leak when not placed up in a static position, due to the fact that most of them have a side airflow. They do need to be refilled more often as well, but its no hassle at home.

    RTA on the other hand is my go to tank, I can take it everywhere I go and even throw it in my purse or jacket, its more forgivable when it comes to storage. My absolute favorite is the Aromamizer by steam crave, its older but affordable, downside you need to refill it from the bottom. But with a 6ml tank you barely need to refill it in comparison to other setups. Most importantly is flavor to me, this thing delivers and in fact is actually far up on a list, especially for being an older model/tank. You can get it at for already $5 here, and at that price you won't feel bad if you don't like it lol.

    If we looking at newer and more pricier but way superior rta's, nothing beats vandy vapes kensei. But its around 35-45 bucks and since its new, lots of places are out of stock. I would check if interested in these items places like element vapes, breazy, vaporDNA. These are US based vendors, I won't recommend Chinese vendors because its hit or miss with them.

    For wire my go to place is advanced vape supplies, and I would recommend stainless steel. You can either buy spools of wire there or already build coils you only need to install into your rta. You wouldn't have to get coil jigs and all that if getting the already made ones, spools would be cheaper tho, but again there's nothing wrong with already built. Gives you also the possibility to test and experiment with their different coils/wires and gauges. If you ask me, i would pick fused Clapton's because they are great for flavor. If building yourself aka getting spools, you still could get them but watch a video first, easier would be just their simple round wire, way cheaper but also different flavor ranges you'll archive with these. Great when learning and understanding building your own coils. When using the fused Clapton spools you will need a bit practice and patient but pays off. Price range is around $12-17 for the spools of Clapton's, $2.50 $5 for spools of round wire and their already wrapped coils are around $6.99 -9.99 I believe for 10 of them. Sorry I'm at work so I can't really load the page right now.

    Then you will need wicking material, again do some research since there's different materials. I personally use Kendo Vape cotton, but its not very simple to wick with. Easier is cotton bacon or unbleached Japanese cotton pads you can get everywhere including amazon.

    I hope it helps, I'll expand my post when home from work later tonight, might include some things I've forgotten etc. Please do take a look at the builder section here on the forums, lots of members made great guides on building your own coils and more suggestion's.
     
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  7. El Chemist

    El Chemist New Member

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    Oh my you have been such a great help , I’m slowly going over everything you have written here for me ... I’m sorry for being late to respond I’ve had family over for a late Christmas. If there is any way I can help or repay your time and effort please let me know. I’m going to look over your recommendations and hopefully can figure all these rta rtd and that. Thank you so much
     
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    gbalkam Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year ECF Refugee

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    Just because they "recommend" 40w doesn't mean it is right for you. Try 35w using the 0.4 ohm coil and reduce the airflow. Your pulls will be a bit longer, but the ejuice will vaporize slower.. allowing more time for the wick to draw more juice while you vape. Generally, the lower ohm coils draw more ejuice. Also see if you can get a "clapton" coil for your tank. Claptons produce better flavor.. A quick search did not show me any premade claptons for your tank but I didnt spend a lot of time on it.. but I did find V8 Baby RBA which does come with 2 clapton coils.
    https://www.myvaporstore.com/Rebuildable-Atomizer-Head-for-SMOK-V8-Baby-Beast-p/sm-uatfv37.htm

    Edit.. I did find however, that the recommended wattage for the 0.4 ohm coil was 55w, not 40, which was the recommended wattage for the 0.6 ohm coil. Maybe you just aren't using enough power to produce proper vapor?
     

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