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IF it goes the giant tard step backwards via the FDA...Where's CHINA in all this?
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They will make it, you will pay for it and the government stooges will take it at customs.
No money, no vape shit.
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Where's CHINA in all this?
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All the big guys will have regulation ready mods within 2 years I am sure...
You know what I think,
China will make a BEHIND THE SCENE deal that they will be the only SOLE maker distributor of VAPE shit in America, I really believe China is behind all this!!
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Even if this goes that far, which is a little far fetched, the US is riddled with borderlines by sea and land which are common routes for contraband.
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% sure China will do something about it
That's what I'm thinking!
Fuck men, even my juice will be outsourced ???
Ahh hell no
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With all the debt we owe the MAINLAND I'm% sure China will do something about it
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They will continue making and selling mods for US export as they have been doing...
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It already is, most of the good flavor companies are not American based. The origins of what you vape was in Italy or France at best.
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That's what I'm thinking!
Fuck men, even my juice will be outsourced ???
Ahh hell no
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No. ProVape and NJOY will be around, as will the big juice makers, like Halo. Halo even has a 50 watt box mod coming out.
In England it's all going to be big labs, who will make custom blends for the smaller guys and be compliant ready...
I thought that back in 09 when I first started with my 510 kit, the PACT looming and NJOYs lawsuit.You know what I think,
China will make a BEHIND THE SCENE deal that they will be the only SOLE maker distributor of VAPE shit in America, I really believe China is behind all this!!
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Then it dawned on me, the PACT act was total taxation since the states pissed the tobacco settlement money and were loosing more taxation subjects (smokers) due to added bullshit in the cigs, the utter fucking stupid state and local taxes. The Natives were face rolling profit other than casinos (which the money 95% of the time is not going to actual tribes) making the states lose even more revenue.
A few special item vendors went offshore, kit and kaboodle into a country that has a treaty with the USPS of not disrupting postage.
China was not caring since they have your money and do not need to replace items.
I like flavor west
But local over priced stores won't?!
So here's how I look at it China will supply all regulated stuff, then local stores will be able still sell it?
Local mod makers can't unless regulated by fda?
So China is the big winner?
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97% of all mods are made in China already I don't see the pointBut local over priced stores won't?!
So here's how I look at it China will supply all regulated stuff, then local stores will be able still sell it?
Local mod makers can't unless regulated by fda?
So China is the big winner?
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But local over priced stores won't?!
So here's how I look at it China will supply all regulated stuff, then local stores will be able still sell it?
Local mod makers can't unless regulated by fda?
So China is the big winner?
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ProVape is the only regulated mod maker left in the US, as far as I know. There may be some obscure brands I don't know about, however.
The small shops making mechs will probably just sell on FB and aren't even big enough for the FDA to bother with. I think the days of B&Ms mixing up or re-bottling e-liquid will eventually be over. They don't test...
The Innoken, Smok and e-Leaf re-sellers will just continue re-selling as they do now. The big companies they buy from will have their mods approved for US sale...
Evolve also.
But the 07 date is the death kneel to future products.
I can foresee they will submit their approval for the insane costs and in 3-5 years it might get approved.
It is more of a move to shove it all to BT and BP, rescheduled as a drug and only their sub par tady fucked equipment.
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We gotta get the natives to sell liquid nic. I used to buy cartons from the miccosukee tax free. Booze also. You don't pay tax when you buy from them.
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Evolv doesn't make any mods...
I do not think the bearded jag off has enough money to get a single one approved, let alone an entire line.Damn, rip trippers will be the first one to regulate his brand for sure LOL
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Unless they have changed, they did make several mods.
But still sub par compared to what is on the market now.
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Evolv had the Darwin. Oldskool.
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And the DNA 12.
12 whole freaking watts.
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From what I know 4heu no longer make mods though. Only boards. They might make or help design mods for other companies though, like vaporshark. T hi is is just hearsay though.
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Learn to make your own juice and build your own mods, or buy a few so you have spares. That's what I plan to do. I'm going to buy a few Altoids mod kits, because they are $10 for the kit on eBay, then I'm going to upgrade the mosfets and wiring because from what I hear they come with thin wires and the description even says 7A MOSFET, so I'm gonna buy some 15 or 20A mosfets and better gauge wire, as I'm sure none of those are super expensive and build a few of those so I have them, and I'm also going to buy a few istick devices. I'm also going to buy as much juice making supplies as possible and learn to make my own.That's what I'm thinking!
Fuck men, even my juice will be outsourced ???
Ahh hell no
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I'm not buying to build and sell, I'm buying for personal use. I will most likely only buy 5 or 6 of the Altoids mods at best, maybe some spare 510 connectors, spare mosfets, switches and wiring, I'm only planning to use one at a time, the rest will be for spares in case one gets worn out or damaged to the point that it can't be rebuilt. Same thing with juice. I figure 5 of the Altoids kits, spare mosfets, switches, wiring, a few istick devices, will probably last me the rest of my life. As far as juice supplies go, I've read that they can last well past the expiration date. I like 100%vg, so thats probably all I will buy, couple gallons of that, couple liters of liquid nicotine, flavorings, should last me a very long time. I'm going to stock up while I can, so I don't need to depend on shops or websites for anything other than replacement batteries and chargers. They can't regulate those.
Got 3/4 liter in the freezer will pick up another 1 or three.
Flavorings they are going to have a bitch of time, so many of them are food safe to use in candy and baking.
The parts can be renamed to what they actually are.. broken flashlight parts, and electronic hobbist pieces.
VG unless they want to take on the entire soap maker and cosmetic industries also.
The scene in Thailand is huge yet banned, but sold via facebook and closed forums.
Where there's a will there's a wake.
Where there's a will there's a wake.
Makes zero sense why, unless they count on tobacco as population control.
If your planing on building I'd say your ok bc it'd be so hard to regulate that it looks just like reg electronic stuff and it's not like customs takes vape electronic classes also vg does have a shelf life of about a 1 1/2 yrs but it's used in cooking and so much other stuff it'd be impossible to tax that they'll only tax it once nic is added so just stock up on pg nic also you can get a liter of 500mg pg nic won't take up much space in the freezer and you'll only add 2% pg to your mixes also store nic in glass
Are the prices a lot more because it's underground?
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Does nic have to be pg based? I'd rather vape 100% natural, or at least as natural as possible, pg being an item I can do without. I know vg doesn't carry flavor as well, but I figured if I find I'm having difficulty tasting my juice, I can always mix in a little extra flavor? I'm planning on making the same amount every time I mix, that way I add the same amount of base, the same amount of nic and the same amount of flavor, I will probably make several flavors at a time, so probably 50-100ml at a time of each flavor. I just don't want to have to figure out how much flavor or nic to add if I'm only making 30ml vs how much if I'm making 120ml.
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Well mcv sells cherrybombers for 200 bucks and up while China sells them for 20 for the same shit. So yea way inflated. In fact all mcv shit is pricey as hell.
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I got ecigexpress 100mg nic which is vg base and vaperstek 100mg nic is also vg. I'm sure the are others. Also most flavors are pg but some are vg.
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I'd go with pg for long term storage but like I said you can get 500mg nic and sence it's half nic if you add 1% you'd get 5mg juice so you'd only be adding half a ml of pg to a 100ml bottle if that bothers u than you might as well vape flavorless juice bc you'll get a lot more pg from that
It's not really that more expensive, a lot of people upgrade a lot so the gear is cheap. The juice on the other hand can get expensive. Depends on the Juice and who's selling and what the thai FDA has/has not confiscated.
That sucks I mean mods are great but worthless without juice
Also make sure to store in glass nic eats plastic
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I got lazy today and made a bottle of juice by counting drops. Not precise but essentially 20 drops = 1 ml and it came out better than with the syringes. Even lowered the nic some as it's not as peppery as it was before.
For the record, including the bottle I made today I've made a whole 4 bottles of juice haha I'm a freaking noob at diy. Shit's pretty good though. I take recipes from online and wing it with what I have and so far it's been pretty good, about 95 percent vg since too much pg gives me mud butt. Tastes like something I'd pay 20 bucks for at vaporshark.
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For the record, including the bottle I made today I've made a whole 4 bottles of juice haha I'm a freaking noob at diy. Shit's pretty good though. I take recipes from online and wing it with what I have and so far it's been pretty good, about 95 percent vg since too much pg gives me mud butt. Tastes like something I'd pay 20 bucks for at vaporshark.
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Is ecx nic any good i've tried mfs and NN and really like NN but 105$ a liter kills me
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There was a rumor that they would eventually put out a dna200 mod.
Probably won't happen but it would be cool to see a 200w tire gauge.
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I like it. At 6mg I found it to be peppery, not unbearable but definitely noticeable. At 4mg it's still peppery but I find it satisfying, it let's me know I'm inhaling something as usually vg doesn't have that feeling like pg does, you know what I mean? It's hard to explain but I like it.
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ECX nic is good to go, it is from Nicotine river.
I agree on the vg stand point but then again if I want to be able to sleep or hear people I need to watch my pg intake. Besides I always feel like sluggish shit/vape flu if I get to much PG.
If you go vg based shake the shit out of it, shake it some more then fall over exhausted... then shake it some more. Break it down (wear gloves) into smaller batch bottle instead of unfreezing a liter to get a little.
Drops to ML going to vary on the tip.
.9 ml of 100mg for a 30 ml bottle = 3 mg.
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I figured as much. When I used syringes I counted 13 drops in 15ml which was .85ml which using the drop counting method should have been 17 drops. I figured it was because the tip was 14g blunt tip.
The dropper on the nic bottle is thinner, so today I counted 15 drops, and it feels smoother, less peppery than the 13 drops used previously.
I dunno not trying to be irresponsibly negligent but I like to cut corners where ever possible and it's not like I'm selling the shit so yeah.
Not trying to condone it either, it's not an accurate system but if it works it works.
Accounting for the amount of liquid in the actual tip is what's fucking with my measuring game right now.
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make sure you grab the right sized syringe.
I might have mixed a batch half asleep, half foggy and fully in the throws of allergy med retardation... with a 3ml syringe... so instead of 6 mg it was 64mg...
Dripped it thought I was vaping battery acid.