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If they did.. You would regret the outcome. Because hands down, radical islam will never stop until every non-muslim is converted, or eradicated. If Haammas and Israel both destroy each other, the next radical faction will rise and move to the next territory, still starving its people, still killing innocents..


Israel ignores obama, because they understand that he is a paper tiger.. All talk. No action..

Agree 100%. As I said, it is the civilized men vs. the Barbarians. I always support the civilized men, they are not without their faults and of course make mistakes (what democracy doesn't??), but in the end they are not Barbarians. Hamas would kill every Jew on the face of the earth and then go after all the Christians and other non-believers (Atheists, you think you'll be left out of this? Ha! Dream on!) if left unchecked. All you have to do is look at what ISIS is doing in Syria/Iraq to see the kind of gov't these guys REALLY want in place.

Oh, and for the record, I am neither Jewish nor Christian. But I support Israel.
 

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Nope, I wouldn't regret it one bit.
I take it you've never seen first hand what radical Islam does creates or it's aftermath....first hand I know it's evil and lost a few brothers trying to stop it. It's as ryno said convert everyone or death. There is no pacifying it and makes communism look like willy wonkas chocolate factory. They dont care who they kill or harm. They use innocent babies and mothers as shields. I have seen and picked the remains of the victims and transported them to be given back some human dignity before being given back to their families before funerals. Until you see that their way of negotiations is with bombings, beheadings, disembowelments, public execution and rape, enslaving women/children and worst of all they have no regret or notion of human life liberty or rights. You my friend go move to a radical islamic area just go lets see how long you last until you crumble cry and piss yourself. Okay end of rant...there is only one solution however the modern day american doesnt agree with it like waterboarding. It works and serves a purpose yet many speak against it....if your loved one(s) were captured and were facing death would you then be okay with it? Funny how everyone blinding listens to the media without fully experiencing the real realities of how the rest of the world operates I personally think all men should serve in the military would fix this "my ways amd thought process is the way war is dumb" mentality hate to break it to you but USA and every other country was made and maintained by killing people and breaking their shit
 

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Meenman83 I totally agree with what you say except for one point: calling it "Radical" Islam. Unfortunately, the muslims committing those horrible acts are obeying the words written in their holy book. In fact (by their own words) THEY are the good muslims and the ones who don't go out and wage Jihad against the unbelievers are the crappy muslims. That's the difference between Islam and other religions; that and Islam is more of a complete societal system rather than something spiritual. In that way it much more closely resembles communism, national socialism or some other political system than a religion.
 

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I am 100% pro Israel , and Hamas has to be destroyed . But that will leave a vacuum , because it will not solve the Palestinian conflict.
Almost all historians agree up to 1914 there was little if any conflict between Jews and Palestinians . For 400 years the Ottoman Empire controlled
Palestine . After WW1 , the Palestinians expected independence , because they had fought against the Germans and the Turks . But in 1917 Great Britain gained control of the area and the British Foreign Minister issued the Balfour Declaration of 1917 . It was to create a national home for the Jewish people . However it stated " all civil and religious rights of non Jewish people would be upheld" . At that time Palestine was 90% Arab .
In 1947 after WW2 Palestine was divided , 57 % of the land would be Jewish and 43%of the land would be Palestinian , even though 65% of the population was Palestinian and Jewish land ownership was 7%.(At no time, was any side promised, by anyone , any Holy site because they had always been shared )
The Arab league stated that was illegal . In 1948 the Jewish settlers declared the creation of The State of Israel, without defining its borders ! Israel claimed 78%
of the land and Palestinians got 22% . In 1967 the Israeli Military created a surprise attack on its Arab neighbors . The Arabs claim they had not planned
anything on Israel . Be that as it may , the Israelis took the west bank where 3.7 million Palestinians lived . Now lets recall here, they did not take land from Jordan or any other nation ,but they took the property of the Palestinians .
The U.N. in 1967 in Resolution 242 called for the withdrawal of Israel from that land . The only solution can be what 76% of Israelis and Palestinians agree on "The Two State Solution ". With Palestinians getting the Gaza strip and the West Bank as an independent territory .
20% of Israeli citizens are Muslim or Christian . Israels budget is 45 billion with an unemployment rate of 10% . Palestinians are Christians, Muslim and Athiest ,and have a budget of 1.2 billion with an unemployment rate of 50%. . After Hamas, solve this conflict and the World will be safer . OK , don't shoot the messenger !!!!!
 

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I take it you've never seen first hand what radical Islam does creates or it's aftermath....first hand I know it's evil and lost a few brothers trying to stop it. It's as ryno said convert everyone or death. There is no pacifying it and makes communism look like willy wonkas chocolate factory. They dont care who they kill or harm. They use innocent babies and mothers as shields. I have seen and picked the remains of the victims and transported them to be given back some human dignity before being given back to their families before funerals. Until you see that their way of negotiations is with bombings, beheadings, disembowelments, public execution and rape, enslaving women/children and worst of all they have no regret or notion of human life liberty or rights. You my friend go move to a radical islamic area just go lets see how long you last until you crumble cry and piss yourself. Okay end of rant...there is only one solution however the modern day american doesnt agree with it like waterboarding. It works and serves a purpose yet many speak against it....if your loved one(s) were captured and were facing death would you then be okay with it? Funny how everyone blinding listens to the media without fully experiencing the real realities of how the rest of the world operates I personally think all men should serve in the military would fix this "my ways amd thought process is the way war is dumb" mentality hate to break it to you but USA and every other country was made and maintained by killing people and breaking their shit
You, my friend, don't know me or my ideologies. I stated that I don't care if they kill each other. That was my only comment. Yet somehow I'm some panytwaste that would piss my pants if I moved to an islamic area? You know me well enough to assume that I blindly listen to the media? Really? Well, let me take a stab at knowing you. You claim these people are all barbarians that want nothing more than to kill and torture everyone who isn't muslin. Your answer?: Kill them all before they kill you. That,sir, makes you a hypocrite. So call me all the names you want, I'm done here. Bye :)
 

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You, my friend, don't know me or my ideologies. I stated that I don't care if they kill each other. That was my only comment. Yet somehow I'm some panytwaste that would piss my pants if I moved to an islamic area? You know me well enough to assume that I blindly listen to the media? Really? Well, let me take a stab at knowing you. You claim these people are all barbarians that want nothing more than to kill and torture everyone who isn't muslin. Your answer?: Kill them all before they kill you. That,sir, makes you a hypocrite. So call me all the names you want, I'm done here. Bye :)
Not once said barbarians nor did I mention kill them all. They the "radicals" just so happen to kill and torture those who are not as the recent events as well as past events show their true colors and nature in which they forcibly enstill their values on people. You mention an islamic place not the radical part again...picking and choosing what you want to hear and say leads me to believe you are blind and don't look at the whole "story". Me personally my values is I am a proud American, with that said anyone or anything that threatens our way of life will be dealt with swiftly with actions that are required for the situation whether it be lethal or non-lethal.

Artisan Vaping thanks brother! However there are radical islamic sects as there is with every religion shit look at the crusades hell even the "bible belt"....every religion and its variation (Catholic, Roman Catholic) is just a twist or interpitation on something that is in their book that they follow to live their lives by. Personally I do not follow anything not be confused with an aethist as they are believers in the belief of nothing ironic aint it?
 

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I guess it's unanimous... Would you seek to destroy a religious group that forces people at gun point to convert to their religious philosophies. That also means all the atheists out there would be forced to convert! atheists are not immune.. Answer = Yes, Fuck Yes!
 

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I think anyone who supports any side, is a laughable tool. Think outside the box that the gangs have put you in.

As I've already posted, I'd support Israel hands down! They have been our ally for a long time, at least until odumbo spits in their face! The USA NEEDS Allies NOT enemies! Trust me, I keep hearing many say "lets fight russia etc". Do many of ya'll realize if we ever fight Russia we're fucked!!!! We'll be out-gunned/manned & just fucked!
 

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As I've already posted, I'd support Israel hands down! They have been our ally for a long time, at least until odumbo spits in their face! The USA NEEDS Allies NOT enemies! Trust me, I keep hearing many say "lets fight russia etc". Do many of ya'll realize if we ever fight Russia we're fucked!!!! We'll be out-gunned/manned & just fucked!
Really , who owns a Russian smartphone , who drives a Russian car !!!! They build great big subs and they explode because they can not maintain them and the rescue sub breaks because that has not been maintained . Gimme a break .
 

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Really , who owns a Russian smartphone , who drives a Russian car !!!! They build great big subs and they explode because they can not maintain them and the rescue sub breaks because that has not been maintained . Gimme a break .

It really isn't Russia, that we would have to worry about! Tell me who backs them up? Iran-China-North Korea maybe? DUH!!! China is bad enough. Take the Chinese Military 100-Soldiers/per row & walk them off a cliff, it will take a very long-time before you see the end! Russia Military-3,821,000 Soldiers / Chinese Military-7,570,000 Soldiers / Iran Military-?? Soldiers / North Korea Military-13,859,000 Soldiers! US Military-2,728,912 / Canadian Military-160,650 Soldiers / British Military-449,720 Soldiers / Israel *If we still have them* 746,500 Soldiers! Therefore when I say get our asses kicked I meant it. 25,240,000 VS 4,085,782. Besides just a heads up for you, when Odumbo first went into office and our economy sank. He sold of a few US Satellite & @130nukes to Russia!
 

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It really isn't Russia, that we would have to worry about! Tell me who backs them up? Iran-China-North Korea maybe? DUH!!! China is bad enough. Take the Chinese Military 100-Soldiers/per row & walk them off a cliff, it will take a very long-time before you see the end! Russia Military-3,821,000 Soldiers / Chinese Military-7,570,000 Soldiers / Iran Military-?? Soldiers / North Korea Military-13,859,000 Soldiers! US Military-2,728,912 / Canadian Military-160,650 Soldiers / British Military-449,720 Soldiers / Israel *If we still have them* 746,500 Soldiers! Therefore when I say get our asses kicked I meant it. 25,240,000 VS 4,085,782. Besides just a heads up for you, when Odumbo first went into office and our economy sank. He sold of a few US Satellite & @130nukes to Russia!
Not to disagree with you but , that is exactly what Putin wants the West to think. Putin is an old fashioned, hard line ex-KBG agent . Russia needs China , China does not need Russia all they need or want is Russian oil and natural gas . Before the price of oil went up the oil in Siberia was to expensive to drill for . Now with the increase in the price it is now profitable enough to pump steam into the wells to pump the oil out of the frozen ground . For the first time in history the economy in China is booming and they need that fuel . Even Germany gets 30% of its natural gas from Russia .
Putin is using this to take the Ukraine , and after that he will take something else . All experts in Oil say the price will come down and then Russia is back to being a busted nation with a busted economy . Both sides have never fully been close because they both want to rule that hemisphere , they see each other as competition . They get along in the short term ,only because each has its own goals . Be that as it may, I still respect your opinion .
 

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Israel gives us bagels and comedians

Palestine gives us nothing.

The choice is clear.
 

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P.s. whatever dipshit is using "the Palestinians were there first" argument...I have a group of picts, Aztecs, native Americans and Australian aboriginals who would like to speak with you and subscribe to your news letter.

Asshat.
 

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