Hey there lefty! We do carry all genuine products, as we would not be in business too long if we opted to sell knock-off products. I definitely understand where you are coming from, being that it is hard to trust a new company over the web. Even if we did sell knock-off items, we have a 60-day money back guarantee on most products, and a 30-day money back guarantee on the rest of our major products. We only want to do good business and make everyone happy, while sustaining success! Soon enough, I am 100% confident you will be seeing positive reviews!I don't know if it's changed since you looked at it but quite a few things say "by Hcigar" and the 4 Nine specifically says clone. Searching for "authentic" and "genuine" brings up a bunch of Kanger, Innokin and Aspire stuff. Not, I notice, the Hana 20w which makes no claims one way or the other. They do however make the claim on the "About us" page that "We carry every single product produced by Innokin, Hcigar, Aspire, Kanger, Hana, and Anyvape". Kind of a mixed bag really. Whether all those are genuine...I couldn't say.
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All of your Caravela, Foggati, 4nine, Hana mods are clones of authentics. They are knock-offs.....or in other parlance...clones. Even a 1:1 is a clone/knock-off.Hey there lefty! We do carry all genuine products, as we would not be in business too long if we opted to sell knock-off products. I definitely understand where you are coming from, being that it is hard to trust a new company over the web. Even if we did sell knock-off items, we have a 60-day money back guarantee on most products, and a 30-day money back guarantee on the rest of our major products. We only want to do good business and make everyone happy, while sustaining success! Soon enough, I am 100% confident you will be seeing positive reviews!
OHHHHHH Ok! I see what you mean! I guess I took it the wrong way...thank you for that though!No No No.....in a great many cases, a clone is of equal or better quality than the original....not to mention they account for 75% of vape sales! The long standing issue is really on the shoulders of those that spend upwards of $200 for the authentics. They are the ones that tend to get bent out of shape. We want and need for businesses like yours to thrive, not only for the sake of sales...but to educate and help grow us as a community. It is the proliferation of clones masquerading as authentics that have the authentic manufacturers attacking us lately. What a great many of us would like to see actually...is clones being produced without original logos and names. This way we are getting good quality and AFFORDABLE products, without the inclination of some people, to pass something off as what it is not. You will NEVER be shunned for being a dealer that sells clones...not at all!
I would like to talk to you in private for some advice if you can help me. You seem very knowledgeable and I need to talk to someone like that.No No No.....in a great many cases, a clone is of equal or better quality than the original....not to mention they account for 75% of vape sales! The long standing issue is really on the shoulders of those that spend upwards of $200 for the authentics. They are the ones that tend to get bent out of shape. We want and need for businesses like yours to thrive, not only for the sake of sales...but to educate and help grow us as a community. It is the proliferation of clones masquerading as authentics that have the authentic manufacturers attacking us lately. What a great many of us would like to see actually...is clones being produced without original logos and names. This way we are getting good quality and AFFORDABLE products, without the inclination of some people, to pass something off as what it is not. You will NEVER be shunned for being a dealer that sells clones...not at all!
Ok, please do, and thank you Fran!Let me get back to you....close to sleep time for me! I am a builder and tester for 510 Vapers.....currently the largest vape shop in the midwest. I'll message you later in the afternoon or evening
Hey there lefty! We do carry all genuine products, as we would not be in business too long if we opted to sell knock-off products. I definitely understand where you are coming from, being that it is hard to trust a new company over the web. Even if we did sell knock-off items, we have a 60-day money back guarantee on most products, and a 30-day money back guarantee on the rest of our major products. We only want to do good business and make everyone happy, while sustaining success! Soon enough, I am 100% confident you will be seeing positive reviews!
Well, I really appreciate your input my friend! We are doing our best to straighten all the confusion out, and we will always take good advice, such as what you have provided me with!I don't actually doubt that those products you say come from Kanger etc. really do it's just that not having purchased from you I can't assert that they do. As far as clones go Hcigar is one of the better suppliers of clones and some original designs too so I think you have chosen well there. My first post was to indicate that it didn't appear to me that you were passing them off as original (there was some question to start with) but by identifying them as Hcigar pretty clearly indicating they were not.
Thank you for your input my friend! We are testing everything out as far as the pricing goes right now, but we are also giving away a lot of free stuff, and $10-$20 Gift cards if you sign up on our list. I have heard of MadVapes, and I like them a lot! We will be sure to help our fellow sellers as such!Hmm. I know being new that you have a lot of costs to recoup and all and you aren't a wholesaler in China, but isn't $109 for a 20W Chana box a bit much nowadays? You can get an iPV V2.1 for less. A God Box 180W is around $100-130.
Those also are the original clones with the Hana logo - which could get you sued - so be careful with that. Lotta vendors got bit by that one.
http://www.outtervapes.com/collections/mods/products/hana-dna-20-mod
Check out Madvapes for a comparison, they are based in N.C. but have many stores including one in N.J.
I think they would be a good biz to emulate, as they have good prices and selection and have been around and successful for many years now because of it.
Well hopefully not too many!Things are looking good from my perspective. There will be growing pains
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