Over 1 ohm on sub ohm tank??

[aquaholic2491]

A few days ago my big baby beast came in the mail and ive been happily vaping on the rba that comes pre coiled. I ordered some 26 kanthal wire and cotton. Now when i go into steam engine and putting in the variables i come up with about 1 wrap to get to the .6 or lower that the manufacturer coils are. Am i missing something? Is this not a series circuit and instead parallel? Is it ok to build a setup above 1 ohm on a sub ohm tank. And if so any recommendations where to start at? I have an alien coming in the mail, right now im using a quantum brit mod.

 

[JuicyLucy]

Is it ok to build a setup above 1 ohm on a sub ohm tank.

Yes, it is safe to build over 1 ohm on a sub-ohm tank and/or with a sub ohm mod

 

[Diescum88]

A few days ago my big baby beast came in the mail and ive been happily vaping on the rba that comes pre coiled. I ordered some 26 kanthal wire and cotton. Now when i go into steam engine and putting in the variables i come up with about 1 wrap to get to the .6 or lower that the manufacturer coils are. Am i missing something? Is this not a series circuit and instead parallel? Is it ok to build a setup above 1 ohm on a sub ohm tank. And if so any recommendations where to start at? I have an alien coming in the mail, right now im using a quantum brit mod.

Are you sure your putting in the right information? What size inner diameter are you using? Cuz something doesn't make sense

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[PhantomOp]

aquaholic2491 -- If interested, I've completed the tutorial on wicking the RBA coil for the SMOK Big Baby Beast / Baby Beast tank.
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/smok-big-baby-beast-baby-beast-rba-wicking-technique.300259/

 

[PhantomOp]

I ordered some 26 kanthal wire and cotton

So, if you are attempting to get a 1.0ohm coil into the RBA deck, you would have to do approx 17 wraps p/coil using 26g KA1 wire on 2.5mm ID. 12-14 wraps fits fine, 17 wraps might be pushing it a little. I would have to wrap one up and check to verify it.


Probably what I would recommend is a .5ohm total build on this RBA using a spaced KA1 26g coils.

 

[gakudzu]

Post your specs and we can see what's wonky.

@PhantomOp
He's trying to get close to the ohms of the claptons that came with it.

 

[PhantomOp]

Curiosity got the better of me ... 17 tight wraps will fit just fine. You can do a 1.0ohm build using 2.5mm ID coils easily.

 

[PhantomOp]

Post your specs and we can see what's wonky.

@PhantomOp
He's trying to get close to the ohms of the claptons that came with it.

Oh --- didn't see that part. Ok, I've not used my coils. Let me see what they are coming in at.

 

[gakudzu]

@aquaholic2491

It's parallel. I'm getting 0.321 for dual 5-wraps @2.5mm id.

 

[PhantomOp]

haha ... i threw mine away. They looked like crap and I didn't want to use them. They were extremely spaced out if I remember correctly. About 5 or 6 wraps total. If the two coils combined came out to .6ohms total, that would have to be a 1.2ohm p/coil build. I'm not finding a wire resistance in steam-engine that would match that build out. They may have been using a different resistance wire. I've seen that before with other manufacturers coils.

 

[gakudzu]

haha ... i threw mine away. They looked like crap and I didn't want to use them. They were extremely spaced out if I remember correctly. About 5 or 6 wraps total. If the two coils combined came out to .6ohms total, that would have to be a 1.2ohm p/coil build. I'm not finding a wire resistance in steam-engine that would match that build out. They may have been using a different resistance wire. I've seen that before with other manufacturers coils.

Mine are at 0.37. Saw someone else post theirs were 0.36. The box claimed 0.3. Sounds like smok doesn't use a calculator, lol. But mine looked really good, and vape great. Close enough.

 

[PhantomOp]

K, that is easy to rebuild then with KA1. Two coils, each at .6ohms

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[gakudzu]

On the 0.6 thing:
The OP was thinking it was a series build. He was looking for .3 but getting .6, so he was on point for parallel. Just input the numbers wrong.

At least I think that's what happened. I am kinda sleepy lol.

 

[gakudzu]

K, that is easy to rebuild then with KA1. Two coils, each at .6ohms

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Yep

 

[aquaholic2491]

Alright so I think i made the mistake of thinking that it was a series circuit. But what i gather from reading all this is that its a parallel circuit. This was throwing me way off.

 

[aquaholic2491]

Got it all setup and im at .45. Havent vaped on it yet but im pretty happy. The coils arent pretty. they glow from out to in though. I bought some of the winding tools off ebay for cheap and cant seem to get them to work without overlapping coils. If im on tonight you'll know i didnt blow my face off . thanks for all the help.

 

[gakudzu]

Glad you got something going.
First build is always tough. Plenty of tutorial vids and posts around to help you improve your skills. Worked for me.

 

[Whiskeywarrior]

Coils are supposed to heat from the middle out not the other way.

 

[VapingGuitarist]

Got it all setup and im at .45. Havent vaped on it yet but im pretty happy. The coils arent pretty. they glow from out to in though. I bought some of the winding tools off ebay for cheap and cant seem to get them to work without overlapping coils. If im on tonight you'll know i didnt blow my face off . thanks for all the help.

Your coils should glow evenly from the inside out. I recommend using ceramic tweezers to lightly squeeze and strum the coils while pulse firing them until they both glow evenly from the inside out. Also, when wraping your coils with the step tool, it's easiest to keep a little space between the wraps and then carefully press the wraps together against the step of the tool. Doing so will prevent overlapping and your coils will be a lot nicer. I also recommend investing in one of the new Coil-Master V3 tool kits with the Mini-Tab. The kit is around $50.00 but it's a complete quality kit with everything you need to build and fire your coils. And as mentioned in another post, there are some excellent coil building tutorials on YouTube from guy's like Ohmboy Josh, Grimm Green, Squidood and dare I say it, *Cough* Rip Trippers *Cough*

Hope this helps,

Shawn

 

[VapingGuitarist]

Aquaholic2491

Here are a couple pics of some of my very first coil builds. Using both a screwdriver and a coil jig.

The first pic is my first ever attempt at a "Twisted Clapton" the second pic is one of my very first coils using a screwdriver, the third pic is my first standard Clapton and lastly, coils that I made with a jig. The Clapton's are definitely not a newb friendly coil! LOL I kept having problems with the core wire breaking pulling out of the Clapton wrap along with spacing problems so lots of practice is in order. But if I can do it, anyone can. The good thing is, Kanthal is cheap so keep practicing and you'll be a pro in no time.

Shawn

 

[aquaholic2491]

Coils are supposed to heat from the middle out not the other way.

i meant that. Too early for me when i posted.