Possible beginning of seizures

[John Vezirian]

Just a little heads up to all the vapers here in the U.S.

Today received a notification from DHL on two orders I was to have delivered and was tracking, that are now being held by the FDA and Customs in Los Angeles.

Here are the notifications and their request for additional information, I spoke directly with DHL and they indicated that the FDA was requesting the additional information.

DHL AWB 1089925432

Joshua Merrill (DHL US) <[email protected]>
11:56 AM (3 hours ago)

to me, Linda

Hello John,

Please be advised, we require the following to facilitate clearance of your shipment:

1. U.S. Tax ID of importer. (social security if individual )
2. Address of importer.
3. Name of importer.
4. Detailed description of contents.
5. Manufacturer name and address.

Please send the requested information to [email protected] . Please note, without the above mentioned items your shipment is in danger of returning to the origin on 10-05.

We will follow up with you no later than 5pm your time on 09-28

Thank you for using DHL,

Please visit www.dhl-usa.com/cod for additional Clearance Support options.

Joshua Merrill
Customer Care Specialist, Imports

DHL Express
1910 w Rio Salado Pkwy
Tempe, AZ 85281
U.S.A.

The purchases were from: Sourcemore and VapeSourcing, both out of China.....

 

[Markw4mms]

Sorry to hear that happened to you.
Welcome to the land of the not so free anymore.

 

[John Vezirian]

Yep..... Just the beginning.... FDA = "Freedom Doesn't Apply"

 

[Huckleberried]

Tell em it's a couple of Protanks and a pack of heads, those were made early enough on.. None of their damn business, if it was made prior to 8/8, or anytime.

 

[John Vezirian]

LOL... Yep I wish... Hell my last package thet was via VapeSourcing last month, came through San Francisco, and you could clearly tell it had been cut open, inspected, and tapped closed again, before it was forwarded to me.... That was via DHL also... Hmmmm beginning to suspect I should not be shopping with folks that use DHL....

 

[Huckleberried]

I simply don't understand why they need this information. Most of it is right there on the package.

 

[Whiskey]

Yea , I think they (FDA) are taking a lot of this into their own hands and with no policing of these new policies on behalf of the consumers , they get away with anything they want

 

[John Vezirian]

Yeah... I did ask that also, and yes I did confirm it was DHL and not a scam, this was legit... Linda indicated, that although the information, hell my name, address and phone was on the package, I still had to reply and give it to them, as to say I was bullshitting them, I can only assume the social, of which I only gave the last 4 digits, as for typical verification processes, hope that will not bite me... But the gal said that should be ok....

Now just have to wait and see if the FDA goon squad will be a knocking at my door....lol

 

[Huckleberried]

Fuckers. Assholes. Not even my package and it pissed me off.

 

[John Vezirian]

Worst of all... I am out about $460.00 if they keep or send back... Hell I doubt the companies I bought from are going to give me a refund....
This was a bunch of new toys... Most were pre-order items got kick ass pricing on.. Even couple of the new Hpriv minis were in these orders...Damn

 

[John Vezirian]

Thanks Huckleberried.......

 

[Huckleberried]

I'm really sorry you have to deal with that. Thanks for sharing about it, though. I sincerely hope you get your stuff!

 

[John Vezirian]

Yep, me too... Do not want to hear what the wife will have to say.......lol

 

[SMOKIE]

Just a little heads up to all the vapers here in the U.S.

Today received a notification from DHL on two orders I was to have delivered and was tracking, that are now being held by the FDA and Customs in Los Angeles.

Here are the notifications and their request for additional information, I spoke directly with DHL and they indicated that the FDA was requesting the additional information.

DHL AWB 1089925432

Joshua Merrill (DHL US) <[email protected]>
11:56 AM (3 hours ago)

to me, Linda

Hello John,

Please be advised, we require the following to facilitate clearance of your shipment:

1. U.S. Tax ID of importer. (social security if individual )
2. Address of importer.
3. Name of importer.
4. Detailed description of contents.
5. Manufacturer name and address.

Please send the requested information to [email protected] . Please note, without the above mentioned items your shipment is in danger of returning to the origin on 10-05.

We will follow up with you no later than 5pm your time on 09-28

Thank you for using DHL,

Please visit www.dhl-usa.com/cod for additional Clearance Support options.

Joshua Merrill
Customer Care Specialist, Imports

DHL Express
1910 w Rio Salado Pkwy
Tempe, AZ 85281
U.S.A.

The purchases were from: Sourcemore and VapeSourcing, both out of China.....

Strange because I received a China package two days a go from DHL with no issues, and have one coming in tomorrow from UPS.

From two days ago.

 

[Jimi D]

My package was held up last year from DHL. Customs had the FDA inspect it. Took over a week before I received it. That was from Poland. Just last week my Chinese package was held for lack of information. The vendor cleared it up. Received that package on Monday. That was through Fedex. Now today I expected a domestic package to be here. Looked at the tracking. It arrived in Portland Oregon !? Wrong coast morons !! That was the USPS ! They all suck !!!!!

 

[vappydan]

I have a package from China containing mods that entered the country at Chicago. It sat in customs for three weeks and has just been released. It was a USPS shipment. It crossed my mind the FDA has instructed Customs to look for vaping items released after August 8th. It will be interesting to see if the package has been opened when it arrives and if anything is missing. By the way all the mods were pre August 8th. I don't see how Customs can determine the release date of anything at this point. Perhaps they are in a quandary of what to do. I would say we are paranoid but this is the game the FDA played in 2009 having Customs seize vaping devices.

 

[SMOKIE]

I have a package from China containing mods that entered the country at Chicago. It sat in customs for three weeks and has just been released. It was a USPS shipment. It crossed my mind the FDA has instructed Customs to look for vaping items released after August 8th. It will be interesting to see if the package has been opened when it arrives and if anything is missing. By the way all the mods were pre August 8th. I don't see how Customs can determine the release date of anything at this point. Perhaps they are in a quandary of what to do. I would say we are paranoid but this is the game the FDA played in 2009 having Customs seize vaping devices.

In 2009 it was larger shipments to vendors that were seized not personal consumer products.

 

[vappydan]

In 2009 it was larger shipments to vendors that were seized not personal consumer products.

We will see it was multiple mods. A single mod shipment went right through.

 

[John Vezirian]

Well mine was just blind luck as it was actually two packages, from two different suppliers, both from China, one was "Sourcemore", the other "VapeSourcing", one package was about $285.00, the other about $160.00, they were both shipped by DHL, and low and behold (god I have to buy a lottery ticket) they both arrived the same time in customs in Los Angeles, both are held, both contained between 5-7 items, I had gotten some good deals on pre-order stuff and it shipped... not like multiple duplicates, as if I was a retailer, but I bet they are large, I get those too, they go in my parcel locker in my housing development, I have never had an issue until now.. Have had folks tell me it was due to the valuation, and that could be. But the DHL Rep handling the matter specifically said that the FDA put a hold on it and wanted the information that they were requesting.

I have a FastTech order out, it is smaller, so I will see what happens with that..

I started vaping to quite smoking, to which I have succeeded, but in the process I have gained another hobby, lol.. I like the tech, so I buy new toys (as the wife calls them) for my collection, this time included, a new Kanger Kone, Kanger JUPPI, New H-Priv mini, and several other newly released items, probabl bought a dozen mods, kits, and tanks between the two, so I know the packages might be a bit large..

 

[TheRealSean]

Just a little heads up to all the vapers here in the U.S.

Today received a notification from DHL on two orders I was to have delivered and was tracking, that are now being held by the FDA and Customs in Los Angeles.

Here are the notifications and their request for additional information, I spoke directly with DHL and they indicated that the FDA was requesting the additional information.

DHL AWB 1089925432

Joshua Merrill (DHL US) <[email protected]>
11:56 AM (3 hours ago)

to me, Linda

Hello John,

Please be advised, we require the following to facilitate clearance of your shipment:

1. U.S. Tax ID of importer. (social security if individual )
2. Address of importer.
3. Name of importer.
4. Detailed description of contents.
5. Manufacturer name and address.

Please send the requested information to [email protected] . Please note, without the above mentioned items your shipment is in danger of returning to the origin on 10-05.

We will follow up with you no later than 5pm your time on 09-28

Thank you for using DHL,

Please visit www.dhl-usa.com/cod for additional Clearance Support options.

Joshua Merrill
Customer Care Specialist, Imports

DHL Express
1910 w Rio Salado Pkwy
Tempe, AZ 85281
U.S.A.

The purchases were from: Sourcemore and VapeSourcing, both out of China.....

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Thats why people should never cry wolf. I was told fda was snatching up overseas orders. Big and small. Well damn I guess its true. Hope you dont loose your stuff.

 

[Huckleberried]

entered the country at Chicago. It sat in customs for three weeks

Happens to me anytime I order from FT. They sit in Chicago longer than it takes them to get there. That hub and Kearny, NJ are really bad. I hear the same about Orlando.

 

[TheRealSean]

Happens to me anytime I order from FT. They sit in Chicago longer than it takes them to get there. That hub and Kearny, NJ are really bad. I hear the same about Orlando.

Have you ever not received anything? Asking dont know but I have read that you could be hit with additional charges and shipping cost. Thats kept me from ever ordering outside the us have to count pennies not by choice so dont have extra money, to just take a chance ot wouldn't ever happen.

 

[Huckleberried]

Have you ever not received anything? Asking dont know but I have read that you could be hit with additional charges and shipping cost. Thats kept me from ever ordering outside the us have to count pennies not by choice so dont have extra money, to just take a chance ot wouldn't ever happen.

No, not personally, and I haven't read about anyone not receiving, to this point, either. I've not gotten anything from China post 8/8, though. Overseas shipments have always taken a little while, for me, but never missing anything.

 

[TheRealSean]

No, not personally, and I haven't read about anyone not receiving, to this point, either. I've not gotten anything from China post 8/8, though. Overseas shipments have always taken a little while, for me, but never missing anything.

Thank you for the info......

 

[Huckleberried]

Thank you for the info......

I know that Fasttech, eFuntop, 3Fvape all will ship USPS. I've really only dealt with them, other than a contest win from HeavenGifts. That one shipped out DHL. I'm still hearing about people having no issues with the first 3 that I mentioned, I just hope that continues.

 

[TheRealSean]

I know that Fasttech, eFuntop, 3Fvape all will ship USPS. I've really only dealt with them, other than a contest win from HeavenGifts. That one shipped out DHL. I'm still hearing about people having no issues with the first 3 that I mentioned, I just hope that continues.

IDK if I really want something maybe order from one. And forgotten to mention i have no paypal.

 

[vappydan]

Happens to me anytime I order from FT. They sit in Chicago longer than it takes them to get there. That hub and Kearny, NJ are really bad. I hear the same about Orlando.

I agree about Chicago. After Customs gets through delaying it next USPS sends it the wrong way for delivery. They are really screwed up there.

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

Worst of all... I am out about $460.00 if they keep or send back... Hell I doubt the companies I bought from are going to give me a refund....
This was a bunch of new toys... Most were pre-order items got kick ass pricing on.. Even couple of the new Hpriv minis were in these orders...Damn

Your CC company will give you a refund... you paid for something and never got it

The way I see it, if it wasn't being made and sold by 8/8 it isn't legal in the US...preorders only give you the ability to reserve a copy once the product hits the market and just because most sites thought that was good enough, unfortunately, doesn't make it true.

Shitty law but even those need to be followed until we are able to change them

 

[Huckleberried]

IDK if I really want something maybe order from one. And forgotten to mention i have no paypal.

AFAIK, those also take Visa, etc...

 

[Huckleberried]

I agree about Chicago. After Customs gets through delaying it next USPS sends it the wrong way for delivery. They are really screwed up there.

Right?? From there, mine should go south. A couple times, they've gone north, then east. Vape adventures.

 

[Markw4mms]

Right?? From there, mine should go south. A couple times, they've gone north, then east. Vape adventures.

I hear ya. I had a package I sent out going to NY, it left here and went to FL before heading the right direction.

 

[The Cromwell]

I was reading on ECR that DHL is not shipping vape stuff any more.

 

[Huckleberried]

I hear ya. I had a package I sent out going to NY, it left here and went to FL before heading the right direction.

I sent a package to Whiskey that landed in Puerto Rico. TOTALLY the wrong place, LOL.

 

[Whiskey]

LOL, I'm in NY....remember it well

 

[John Vezirian]

Well here is a little update, and little rehash for folks out there, I put it together from here and some other forum posts.. But basically if the vaping industry does not hop to it, they are dead...


Posted:

Ok, so I just got off the phone with DHL.. I had to provide them all my information, this was not the cost of the orders, this was not my blind luck, according to DHL, they and all shippers are now having to comply with FDA regulations applying to any smoking related products, the FDA has a 5 Day hold on the processing to get their information, the 3 Days for customs.

I was told by DHL, that they will be stopping any shipments that indicated that they are smoking related products in any shape or form, and or from companies and or retailers that sell smoking related products, so I guess they have a list. I was also informed that other shippers will or should be falling in line with these regulations

All I have is what they tell me, so time will tell and we will see if anyone else gets caught up in the mess.

I am not making this shit up.... Just happening the way I have laid it out...

Posted:

The initial contact from DHL required the following:

Please be advised, we require the following to facilitate clearance of your shipment:

1. U.S. Tax ID of importer. (social security if individual )
2. Address of importer.
3. Name of importer.
4. Detailed description of contents.
5. Manufacturer name and address.

Please send the requested information to DHL Rep....
Please note, without the above mentioned items your shipment is in danger of returning to the origin on 10-05.
We will follow up with you no later than 5pm your time on 09-28


Additionally I had to provide a detailed list of the contents, so I typed it out and sent to them, along with a PDF of the Invoice.

Then they came back asking if there was juice in the order.. Shit I told them look at the invoice, crap then I get another call to verify who I am and give them my SS Number again

Then they thanked me and told me the FDA processing will take 5 days and then 3 additional days for customs processing....

Like I said I asked the rep, is this normal, she said no, not in the past, but it will be for any smoking related products, vapes and juices were not considered smoke related, till the FDA designated them as such, and now the shippers have to look for them...

So beware...

Essentially the FDA is going to lock down the borders to the U.S. just as they did with Clove Cigarettes yeas back... When they said that clove cigarettes lead to kids smoking...

And yes this will be applied to anything that could be utilized for vaping... including batteries, drip tips, and such, but it will more than likely be from who and where shipped, I do believe they have a database in place for any vape related retailers, that would be my opinion....

 

[Markw4mms]

Well, I guess we really need to change the spelling to Amerika now that we're becoming a police state.

 

[Huckleberried]

Jeez, how will vendors survive all this... fucking ridiculous.

 

[John Vezirian]

Please be advised that the posting I made was all mine, I had clipped together my responses to some other people on other forums, in order to keep a running event summary, I am not using any persons content other than my own.... I just had an admin literally delete my thread for that... damn....

 

[Huckleberried]

Please be advised that the posting I made was all mine, I had clipped together my responses to some other people on other forums, in order to keep a running event summary, I am not using any persons content other than my own.... I just had an admin literally delete my thread for that... damn....

Huh??

 

[John Vezirian]

LOL... I threw that on here because the Administrator on another forum, deleted my postings, because he felt I was inserting something some one else said, that I was using another persons comments without permission, so he deleted portions of my thread....

 

[John Vezirian]

going to be my future disclaimer...LOL

 

[Huckleberried]

LOL... I threw that on here because the Administrator on another forum, deleted my postings, because he felt I was inserting something some one else said, that I was using another persons comments without permission, so he deleted portions of my thread....

Ohhhhhh at another forum. OK, I gotcha. I was trying to find out if anyone knew what was up, lol.

 

[The Cromwell]

Jeez, how will vendors survive all this... fucking ridiculous.

The FDA does not intend for the vendors to survive. Or at least 99% of them.

 

[Huckleberried]

The FDA does not intend for the vendors to survive. Or at least 99% of them.

It's infuriating, and it's really sad.

 

[The Cromwell]

It's infuriating, and it's really sad.

Yep

 

[Lotus Insane]

The cold bitterness of realization that my shit is sitting in Chicago as we speak. Let's hope they make it through customs. (For the record I have ordered metal "paperweights" with "holes" in them)

 

[Warfcat]

Looks like you guys are moving to Canada. Welcome!

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

 

[KDodds]

Not sure how or why people are assuming that this is related to the FDA at all. DHL and FedEx act as Customs Clearing brokers for US Customs and there is currently no legal hold in effect for imports of vaping devices in general, only new (post 8/8) releases would even be covered at this point in time. Regardless of what this or that phone operator at DHL/FedEx, Customs Clearing of FDA regulated products hasn't changed since the last update in June of this year. Your problems may be that your shippers are identifying themselves as vapor products/shippers and not electronics. FastTech and GearBest sell electronics (and other things) and are far less likely to have problems than a clearly identified VapeSourcing shipper.

All you need to do is provide the information requested and you will receive your goods (provided they're not on a FDA "no fly" list). You will probably have to pay taxes/duties on these products.

 

[VaporJoe]

Just got two Fedex packages from Gearbest.. no problems at all, no delays, no bills.

 

[vappydan]

After three weeks in Chicago customs the package arrived today unopened. All items inside are sealed. It makes no sense at all. Where has it been for three weeks?