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  1. HellbillyRJ

    HellbillyRJ Bronze Contributor

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    That would have been extremely helpful. Thank you.

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  2. PhantomOp

    PhantomOp VU Donator Gold Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    @HellbillyRJ -- Also, did you make sure to set the correct TCR value when you set it to TEMP mode? By default, the Alien TCR value for SS is not correct. It needs to be set to 0.00092 when using SS316L wire.
     
  3. PhantomOp

    PhantomOp VU Donator Gold Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    Very welcome!
     
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    I had it close, 0.00094

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  5. PhantomOp

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    I guess that is not stated correctly --- it is correct, but not for SS316L. By default, it is set to a TCR value of SS304 wire.
     
  6. Debonair_vapologist

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    I remember when I first got to rebuildable devices I was struggling even with the simplest micro coils. I got myself some FeCrAl, that classic multi-section coiling rod and a lot of free time :) no matter how hard I tried I kept messing it up. Moreover my first RTA was MuTank by Indulgence which is probably one of the most "leaking" RTAs I have ever seen. If not the most leaking. Anyway, one day I have decided to try something new. What I did was cutting a sufficient strand of wire, wrapping it around the coiling rod a few times and than fixing the whole thing in the chuck of my drill. And than you just pull the loose end straight down and start spinning the drill. That's how I got my first perfect coil, even and tight :) Though I have to admit wire wastage is higher when using this method
     
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    2017-02-28 20.32.51.jpg My first successful parallel build, I think.
    24g kanthal a1. .132ohms. Is that 7 wraps or 6.5. The truth is that I am confused about what makes a half wrap or whole wrap?

    I made some earlier that were .103ohms together, but it frightened me to go that low because it may have changed to lower when vaped and my Smok Alien doesn't read lower than .1ohm.

    I just took them off and wrapped the ones shown.

    Edit: Damn fat finger typos from my phone...
     
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  8. gakudzu

    gakudzu Gold Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    I do believe it's 6.5. To make 7, the legs would have to come off opposite sides of the coil, completing the seventh circle. Looks nice and clean.

    Edit: I'm wrong. It's 7.
     
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  9. bugalien

    bugalien Bronze Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    Thanks! That is what I thought. So when I make a single coil in the middle of that same deck(between the posts), it is full wraps?
     
  10. gakudzu

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    Oh, and if the res drops below 0.1, the Alien will read it and refuse to fire. I've had it happen, and had to use the coils on another mod.
    I've also had the opposite happen. I made a pair that were too low for the Alien. After breaking them in on my Slice, the res rose to 0.105. I put them back on the Alien, and have been using them for several weeks.
     
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  11. Whiskeywarrior

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    The .5 thing annoys me for some reason, some people get all anal on it. If I wrap that sucker over my screwdriver 6 times I'm calling it a 6 wrap. I don't care what others do but I'm not gonna be all anal about it.
     
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  12. gakudzu

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    I was wrong. When the legs come off the same side, both ends count as a half. So you have 6 full wraps + 2 half-wraps = 7 wraps.

    If it were single in between 2 posts, you'd get the extra half. It confuses me too, obviously. Lol
     
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    I was scared of blowing my head off or something. :cloud::cloud::cloud::bomb:
    My Alien has a habit of not asking and firing a new atty as the old ohms, well it tries anyway. I end up having to fuck with it and fire it without an atty to get it to reset.
    I alternate between cat turds (LG HG2s?) and bright green (Samsung 25rs?). The printing is pretty much gone from the batteries. lol
     
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    Now I am double confused!:confused::gaah::cuss2::deadhorse:
     
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    I will have to do it your way cause I just can't wrap my head aroud it. :giggle:
    Mine is a 7 wrap then.:vino::drunk::cheers:
     
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    Yeah it took me awhile to get used to clicking the bar before screwing the atty on. It won't blow up, but if the res is very different, it can give you a nasty hit.
     
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    Screenshot_2017-02-28-21-10-39.png

    Picture courtesy of VapeTool app
     
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    Double barrel coils in a goon[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    Well this build is the first one I have had that actually has me feeling a little funny where my neck meets my chest. The cloudage from this isn't playing! I will be taking some more breaks with my tootle puffing, aspire Zelos kit that I won earlier. Otherwise I may drown myself in VG. :teehee: Need plenty of kleenex if I vape this build out the nose too. LMFAO!
     
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    Im not even trying to build or wick that. Nope, not today...
    That looks really cool though. What is the advantage to having vertical coils?
     
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    Great flavor..had heard bout them and since im learning ....why not?
     
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    It is not a 5 and 2 halves? NVM
    Im calling it a 7. lol
     
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  24. PhantomOp

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    When using Steam-Engine - Wire Wizard, I just set to half wrap and go on.

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    This is the description when you mouse-over the "Number of Wraps" field.

    The number of wraps in the coil. Half wraps mean that the coil legs are pointing in the same direction.
    Whole numbers mean that the legs are pointing in the opposite direction.
     
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  25. gakudzu

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    The length of the leg is measured from the post to the center of the loop, so the wraps are counted between the outer loops. Maybe it is a 5. Be fucked if I know at this point:confused:
     
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    I have done this too as an estimator. I can only get approximate results but at least it points me in the right direction. Anyway, I always use the tool no matter what I end up with.:eek:
     
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    :cry::cuss2::tantrum::deadhorse::facepalm::poop:
     
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  28. PhantomOp

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    Yea, an estimator is all it should be used for. There are way to many factors in how the Ω reading will turn out... wire quality, stretch a little while straightening the wire, a little extra tension while coiling it, etc ... etc... etc...

    I've also noticed that the resistance is ALWAYS different from one MOD to another. My Ω reader will say one thing, I will put it on my MOD#1 and it will be a 10th off, put it on MOD#2 and it will be somewhere else. I've just gone off the rule of thumb that if the first decimal digit is where it was on the reader then it's damn close enough. Example ::: Reader came in at .25Ω and the MODs say .23Ω <> .28Ω then i'm calling it good.
     
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    If my husband is in the room with his Alien while I am building and testing, I will use his, mine, and my new Zelos 50w now. I do get kind of anal and want the best estimate I can get. hehe

    Edit: At least the Zelos knows right away and no fiddle farting around with it. I just screw atty on and get reading. I still do use and love my first baby way more. My nekked Alien is awesome despite needing a little sweet talking for an ohm reading.
     
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    ditto :teehee:
     
  31. PhantomOp

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    Yea, for the Alien's to reset the ohm its just way easier to pull the atty, hit the fire bar twice and then put the atty back on -- like @gakudzu said. :D
    I find the same thing happen with other MODs as well. My RX200S is the same way.
     
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    Guys, here are my first claptons (not in an atty though, I'm waiting for my new atty, a Vgod TTP) and my first vertabraids too:
    Clapton: 6 wraps (or 5.5...), 2.4mm ID, 26x28awg SS316L
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    Vertabraid: 6 wraps (or 5.5...), 3mm ID, 3x28awg SS316L
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    I started vaping 8 months ago and started building 3 months ago.
     
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    6x30/36 Aliens 3mm .10 ohms
     
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    my first build. ohms are high but just happy to have made a good fused clapton. 26(2)x 32 kanthnal 7 wraps on a pharaoh rta deck. vaping it at 65w and it is beating any premade coil I had in my big baby beast as far as flavor goes.

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    first framed staple coil. 24 ga. nichromex2 , 6x .5x.1 stainless ribbon, 36ga. nichrome wrap. ended up with 6 wraps on 3mm screwdriver and .10 ohms.

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  36. Jane808

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    Still too hard for me:(
     
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    woops wrong thread!
     
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    Playing around with the Titan Deck....[​IMG][​IMG]

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    .06 and hitting good at 165 watts....[​IMG]

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  40. Meekrakkin

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    My first real coil build... I mean, I've done single wire coils for awhile now, but this is my first attempt to Clapton at all… I like the look of twisted so I figured I would try it... it's twisted 28g SS, claptoned with 32g K1... I think it came out ok... if there's anything I should have done differently, please let me know... I'm very new to all of this lol
    First Coil.JPG First Coil Firing.JPG
     
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    Good job! Try to get some smaller wrap wire like 36 or 38 gauge. The ramp up and down times will be a lot less.

    Welcome to VU!:cheers:
     
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    Thanks! I'll have to try that :cheers:
     
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    Got my Dead Rabbit RTA in today and thought I would try a fused Clapton... 26(2)x38g Kanthal… not perfect but I'm happy with it :)

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    Well this will be my first post on VU after being a member for nearly a month.

    And these are my first coil builds.

    The first build attempt was for a friend Ni80 4*28/40 and I was quite impressed if I say so myself

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    And my second build was a staggered fused clapton Ni80 2*28/38 which I wanted for higher ohms and lower wattage and amps as I'm squonking the Drop Dead on a Topside and the 21700 EXOVTC6A just wasn't lasting that long really.

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    These seem to ramp up nice and fast at 60w 16.6A and .25 Ohms....the flavour is quite good but I want more!
     
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    Those are your first builds? Damn, 4 core fused and a stagger, you are phenom!:giggle: More flavor, go for an Alien or framed staple. There are howto threads in the Coil Building forum. Check them out. http://vapingunderground.com/forums/coil-building.44/
     
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    Many thanks gb....I'm quite talented when I want to be.

    Looking at the link you posted now.
     
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    Thanks for the welcome and I've looked at some of the site porn already and it's and it's definitely XXX

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    One day in the near future fingers crossed!
     
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