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Been out on the road with the band, finally home and slowly building again.
Here's some Quad~core Aliens in the TM24.
•4x28g//38g Atomizerwick N80•

Love the vape off these quad~cores, a tad warmer than traditional aliens, along with a touch better flavor i think. Not a much different than building regular aliens, i used 24g for my de~core.
For those curious about my construction techniques, using a candle to warm it up, i hold the cores flat and put a dab of hot glue on each end. I put enough so i can crank down the drill chuck without moving the cores, and i leave about an inch of cores sticking out on the far end (behind the glue) to fix them to my Spin LT.
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Thanks for the 4 core directions you posted, I made a successful foot.

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Hey Raymo I just ordered a bunch of atties including the g24 what do you think of it? Looks pretty sweet imo those post holes are killer.

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Its the Mterk RDA Mterk sent me....he liked the polish so much hes sending me another RDA to polish for himself and I told me to send me juice to cover for it...his juice is pretty damn expensive but hes sending 5 120ml's of it....works for me

What's the RDA like? Obviously all pally pally aside was looking at this or grimms one that's all :)
 

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Tried out some Tsukas. Gonna try them the proper way another time. Didn't know you could make them de-coring. 4x28N80 / .3KA1. Went with 4x28 because its quicker to prep and as it was first time, id get annoyed if I messed up a ribbon stack.

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Also this arrived today so I can step up my photography game. Haven't had chance to use it yet though.
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Tried out some Tsukas. Gonna try them the proper way another time. Didn't know you could make them de-coring. 4x28N80 / .3KA1. Went with 4x28 because its quicker to prep and as it was first time, id get annoyed if I messed up a ribbon stack.

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Also this arrived today so I can step up my photography game. Haven't had chance to use it yet though.
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Wow nice coils matey great job! That's a serious camera lol
 

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Staple staggered fused claptons I made

3mm diameter 7 wraps 0.18ohms
2x28g KA1 frames with staggered 38gNI80 wrap
4 x 0.4x0.1mm KA1 ribbon
Fused with 38gNI80

Now Mounted on the Icon RDA

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my stuff from usaohmmeters came in last week. might get a chance to set it all up today if im lucky...anyone have any tips for prep/usage on the spinLT? is it going to be any different than my old swivels? does it need any maintenance or wd-40 or anything?
 

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How many grades of mesh did you use for the Terk RDA?

Ive found a set which is Grade 1500, 1800, 2400, 3200, 3600, 4000, 6000, 8000 & 12000 (Equivalent to Sandpaper Grit P500 to P11000)

Wondering if you can skip grades i.e. 1500, 2400, 3600, 6000, then maybe 8000 and 12000. Or maybe start at 1800/2400?

Do you use wet or dry?

Thinking about doing the whole of my goon.

Nice job anyway. Looks flawless.
 

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How many grades of mesh did you use for the Terk RDA?

Ive found a set which is Grade 1500, 1800, 2400, 3200, 3600, 4000, 6000, 8000 & 12000 (Equivalent to Sandpaper Grit P500 to P11000)

Wondering if you can skip grades i.e. 1500, 2400, 3600, 6000, then maybe 8000 and 12000. Or maybe start at 1800/2400?

Do you use wet or dry?

Thinking about doing the whole of my goon.

Nice job anyway. Looks flawless.
Idk what ramo2u uses but micro mesh is amazing for polishing. If there are machining ridges to level do that 1st with lower grades 400-800 then move onto the micro mesh! Use wet or dry

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How many grades of mesh did you use for the Terk RDA?

Ive found a set which is Grade 1500, 1800, 2400, 3200, 3600, 4000, 6000, 8000 & 12000 (Equivalent to Sandpaper Grit P500 to P11000)

Wondering if you can skip grades i.e. 1500, 2400, 3600, 6000, then maybe 8000 and 12000. Or maybe start at 1800/2400?

Do you use wet or dry?

Thinking about doing the whole of my goon.

Nice job anyway. Looks flawless.
I used 600/800/1000/1500/1800/2400/2800/3200/3600/4K/6K/8K

It took a while to remove the machining marks and make a flat surface...almost 2 hours itself, after that it went smoothly. I feel f I had a dremel or a sander of some sort I could of done it in half the time.

You need to remove the material and then after then get it smooth, after 1800 grit its just a new mesh removing the scratches of the last until there isnt any left....skipping any of these will waste more time then using them in succession.
 

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Hey Raymo I just ordered a bunch of atties including the g24 what do you think of it? Looks pretty sweet imo those post holes are killer.

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What's the RDA like? Obviously all pally pally aside was looking at this or grimms one that's all :)
The Mterk RDA hs no djustable Airflow..but you can use the topcap and your wicking to actually cut the airflow down...if you like alot of air then this one is for you....its a great rda other then that.

The G24, Skill, Skywalker, Goon are my absolute favorite RDAs....they fit every need and each are great in every aspect. You will love the G24....its my #2 RDA
 

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i'm still an amateur compared to you all but here's a quad 26g 5wraps that i ran vertical in the goon rda..it was tough getting all the wires in ther and clipped but came out to .19
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The Mterk RDA hs no djustable Airflow..but you can use the topcap and your wicking to actually cut the airflow down...if you like alot of air then this one is for you....its a great rda other then that.

The G24, Skill, Skywalker, Goon are my absolute favorite RDAs....they fit every need and each are great in every aspect. You will love the G24....its my #2 RDA
Hell yeah I read you also have the skill a few pages back, how did you get it? I'm tempted to get one but shipping from canada sucks and it's $$$

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I used 600/800/1000/1500/1800/2400/2800/3200/3600/4K/6K/8K

It took a while to remove the machining marks and make a flat surface...almost 2 hours itself, after that it went smoothly. I feel f I had a dremel or a sander of some sort I could of done it in half the time.

You need to remove the material and then after then get it smooth, after 1800 grit its just a new mesh removing the scratches of the last until there isnt any left....skipping any of these will waste more time then using them in succession.
Talk about grits....
No wonder it comes out smooth as glass. Freakin awesome !!!!

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Hell yeah I read you also have the skill a few pages back, how did you get it? I'm tempted to get one but shipping from canada sucks and it's $$$

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How do you rate the Skywalker to the Skill? I noticed they have very similar posts, is why I ask.

I bought it the week they were released from CustomVapes.uk for $78 shipped....love it from the minute I got it and I bought a second one immediately because I knew they would become hard to get....they were sold out everywhere for the next 4 weeks.

Skywalker is amazing...especially for the price and I would rank it almost at the same level but the airflow and topcap on the skill is better but the Skywlker at $15 is the best bang for the buck and I highly suggest everyone here grab one.
The skywalker is a SS version of the skill...no bullshitting you, if the topcap would fit then Id say it would be a clone but the topcap separates it from being so.
 

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I used 600/800/1000/1500/1800/2400/2800/3200/3600/4K/6K/8K

It took a while to remove the machining marks and make a flat surface...almost 2 hours itself, after that it went smoothly. I feel f I had a dremel or a sander of some sort I could of done it in half the time.

You need to remove the material and then after then get it smooth, after 1800 grit its just a new mesh removing the scratches of the last until there isnt any left....skipping any of these will waste more time then using them in succession.

Thanks, hopefully I get on okay. Will probably be doing it by hand too.

Unless I can attach the goon to my drill some how, at least for the cap. Deck by hand.

Did you finish with any metal polish?
 

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Thanks, hopefully I get on okay. Will probably be doing it by hand too.

Unless I can attach the goon to my drill some how, at least for the cap. Deck by hand.

Did you finish with any metal polish?
I wouldnt use pastes until it gets some minor scratches afterwards.

You could use a Ego adapter or a 510 cartridge in your drill to do the outer deck.
 

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Will report back with my results.

Not sure whether to do the posts, obviously ill lose the plating. Fancied a set of black posts anyway. Gonna look nice on the SS AV tube.
 

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I'm back to practicing staggertons (btw yours looks badass whiteowl84 love the colors) 28g frames, 6ply .4R, 36g stagger, 38g fuse. Spacing could be better on mine but it'll work for now. I want to practice up to using ribbon frames, or separate ribbon stacks like whiteowls latest pic. I'm afraid to wrap this hah, didn't have much luck last time and kinda ruined it. staggerton2.jpg
 

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I'm back to practicing staggertons (btw yours looks badass whiteowl84 love the colors) 28g frames, 6ply .4R, 36g stagger, 38g fuse. Spacing could be better on mine but it'll work for now. I want to practice up to using ribbon frames, or separate ribbon stacks like whiteowls latest pic. I'm afraid to wrap this hah, didn't have much luck last time and kinda ruined it. View attachment 80227
Thanks.
To make a staggeton the proper way (if you don't have a hand vice) here's what you do:
Paraclap your desired gauge over your desired stack. 6ply 0.4/38g is a great place to start. To make 4 and 6ply with no twist you need to fuse paraclap with almost no tension and you can't pull too hard. Remove the extra wire.

Glue both ends of the paraclap and cut off the loop plus what was in the drill. You should be left with nothing but perfectly spaced clapton which is glued on both ends.

Now to add anything like ribbon or round just get a long piece and fold it in half so the stagg core fits in the middle. Leave about 1/4" on the loop side and about 3/4" on the other. Hold it together and wrap ribbon around it tight starting at the loop end. Get about 4 tight wraps, squeeze with nylons and glue it so the glue penetrated all of it. Work your fingers down and repeat all that on the drill side. Before you glue that bit pull it all tight so it stays together with no tension.

Now just bind the rest of the end together as far from the core as you can so you have something to put in the chuck.
If you add alot at once add some ribbon sliders and keep it in front of you as you fuse.



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I'm back to practicing staggertons (btw yours looks badass whiteowl84 love the colors) 28g frames, 6ply .4R, 36g stagger, 38g fuse. Spacing could be better on mine but it'll work for now. I want to practice up to using ribbon frames, or separate ribbon stacks like whiteowls latest pic. I'm afraid to wrap this hah, didn't have much luck last time and kinda ruined it. View attachment 80227
Here's pix of what I do. Ignore where I said to cut the loop off. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't depending on what I'm making.

I usually add the ribbon and frames at the same time but here I didn't. Not sure why.
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Here's pix of what I do. Ignore where I said to cut the loop off. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't depending on what I'm making.

I usually add the ribbon and frames at the same time but here I didn't. Not sure why.
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Nice, thanks for the tips and pics. So far I've been trying to use Mind Forges tutorial vid minus the para clap. I am definitely going for the para clap next, been putting it off for too long, and want to use it for other things too like the interlock alien (nod to raymo2u last few pics amazing man). Now that I'm getting the feeling down of the final fuse I will dedicate more wire to it.
On the parallel Clapton, do you guys just pull it off the spool and go or are you using a method for that? Heard mention of Raymo2u's ziplock technique. Reason being the 38g I recently got (atomizer wick) comes off the spool really curly, compared to my LV 36g
 

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Ray throws his spools in baggies and sits them upright on the floor zipped 2/3 if the way up iirc. Watch his live feed.
I have a spool tensioner I use.
But yeah grab 2 wires and pin the trigger down till you get to the end is the gist of it.

And the interlock thing only works on round cores.

LV wire is absolutely trash. There are 3 vendors that have good wire and are cheaper just off the top of my head.

Here's the final stagg I made:
12ply n80/A1, 27g n80 frames and 40g KD fuse. 0.07 on a Griffin plus.
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Thanks.
To make a staggeton the proper way (if you don't have a hand vice) here's what you do:
Paraclap your desired gauge over your desired stack. 6ply 0.4/38g is a great place to start. To make 4 and 6ply with no twist you need to fuse paraclap with almost no tension and you can't pull too hard. Remove the extra wire.

Glue both ends of the paraclap and cut off the loop plus what was in the drill. You should be left with nothing but perfectly spaced clapton which is glued on both ends.

Now to add anything like ribbon or round just get a long piece and fold it in half so the stagg core fits in the middle. Leave about 1/4" on the loop side and about 3/4" on the other. Hold it together and wrap ribbon around it tight starting at the loop end. Get about 4 tight wraps, squeeze with nylons and glue it so the glue penetrated all of it. Work your fingers down and repeat all that on the drill side. Before you glue that bit pull it all tight so it stays together with no tension.

Now just bind the rest of the end together as far from the core as you can so you have something to put in the chuck.
If you add alot at once add some ribbon sliders and keep it in front of you as you fuse.



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Thank you for the tips white owl! Do you use a hand cranked drill when doing final wraps?

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db coils installed. holy crapOla! ramp is super super fast! n80 wire! @d_b_builders your the king!

I need to change the cotton because I put too much and I'm getting a little bit of spit back. but these coils 0.14ohms on my Oros V2 mech. never had this kind of vape before its pretty sick!
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Ray throws his spools in baggies and sits them upright on the floor zipped 2/3 if the way up iirc. Watch his live feed.
I have a spool tensioner I use.
But yeah grab 2 wires and pin the trigger down till you get to the end is the gist of it.

And the interlock thing only works on round cores.

LV wire is absolutely trash. There are 3 vendors that have good wire and are cheaper just off the top of my head.

Here's the final stagg I made:
12ply n80/A1, 27g n80 frames and 40g KD fuse. 0.07 on a Griffin plus.
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Many thanks whiteowl for this and the last couple of posts above this one will help me out a lot :)
 

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Yeah I know, they may be boring but I do love my Fused Claptons.

25x2/38 317L SS @0.14, one damn fine Vape.

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Ain't nothing wrong with a fused clapton rossco still my go to build if I wanna knock a load of coils out quick and vape is great :)
 

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another stagg attempt. tried the loop trick instead of groove fuse this time. 6 x .4mm k/28 k/38 n80 3 5mm wraps .13 ohms. a bit rough around the edges...in a titanium goon clone/noisy cricket 2
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another 30/40 ss316 alien. went with 2.5mm this time. ~.18ohms for the raven clone/goon
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another staple for the hog v3 clone. 6 x .3mm k/40n80. 8 3mm wraps ~.3 ohms
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Thank you for the tips white owl! Do you use a hand cranked drill when doing final wraps?

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No. There's no way you'd be doing 40g with a hand powered anything. I use a drill in high gear with the trigger barely on so it spins pretty fast. Some staggs I'll do full speed. Just depends on what it is
In low gear I can make it go super slow if I need to.

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Heres one of my over used and abused coils. I took today off so I'm gonna rebuild all of my daily drivers...they need it!
***I couldnt get a good pic at work but believe me...its freakin nasty! I hadnt changed the coil in my Engine since I bought it and when I unscrewed the deck I literally gasped.
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Heres one of my over used and abused coils. I took today off so I'm gonna rebuild all of my daily drivers...they need it!
***I couldnt get a good pic at work but believe me...its freakin nasty! I hadnt changed the coil in my Engine since I bought it and when I unscrewed the deck I literally gasped.
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Hmm yummy what flavour were you going for "Bitumen Candy Cane" or something SM lol
 

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Tried the para clap today, went ok but had a couple errors in parts where I learned it does go better when you just crank it. Used it to make my first interlock alien inspired by raymo2u and a build Whiteowl84 did a little while back. Although I think some of the cores overlapped 8x 32g 316L, 2x 36g 316L Very bendy lolinterlockeight32.jpg
 
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Well here are my first, first coils I build last night, not the best but got to start somewhere. Claptons 26g KA1(core) 34 KA1(wrap) 2.5 ID,
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Nice job! Welcome to the world of building, it can become addictive after a while ;p A lot of these pro builders put out some outstanding work which can inspire some to try a lot new things they wouldn't have thought of otherwise.
 

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Aloha Build Brothers & Sisters, I'm still practicing the multi-core Alien. I put 5x28g in this. It was going good, till I ran out of decore....LOL.... Came out with enough to make a single, but shy of a dual. Darnit !!. Anyways have a awesome weekend everybody !!!!
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Aloha Build Brothers & Sisters, I'm still practicing the multi-core Alien. I put 5x28g in this. It was going good, till I ran out of decore....LOL.... Came out with enough to make a single, but shy of a dual. Darnit !!. Anyways have a awesome weekend everybody !!!!
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Wowwww! Those are some awesome coils. I'll catch up to the big boyz soon

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I was afraid to post these having seen the high level of skill here, but, I must start somewhere. Only building a few weeks but not every day. I am hoping I can spent more time at it in the future and learn some more advanced techniques. Even though I rarely get my builds finished correctly, and waste tonnes of wire I find it quite calming for some reason.


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Aloha Build Brothers & Sisters, I'm still practicing the multi-core Alien. I put 5x28g in this. It was going good, till I ran out of decore....LOL.... Came out with enough to make a single, but shy of a dual. Darnit !!. Anyways have a awesome weekend everybody !!!!
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Looks good.
If you didn't know there is science to all this.
Assuming a 3mm ID it takes 1" to make 2 full wraps.
To make an alien 8" long you need 50% more decore length so 12".
I almost always shoot for an 8" stick to get dual coils.

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