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  1. DeepInTheAbyss

    DeepInTheAbyss New Member

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    Hey guys. So. I'm on vacation. So I cant just whip out another clapton xD didnt bring the necessary gear. Anyways, my preferred build is a fused clapton. I always build it with 2 24 gauge cores, and 40 gauge wrap. 3 mm or 2.5 mm. I made it last Thursday. It is now obviously Wednesday, I only use 1 juice in it at a time. If I switch, I take out the cotton, dry burn, and rewick. Ive done it 4 times since Thursday. I just did it for the 4th 30 minutes ago, and im concerned that even though its perfect, you literally cant see the cores and it quite literally looks fused, I think I have melted together the wrap. It tastes like complete crap. I'm also concerned about the potential leak of metal alloy in my clouds. I consistently vape at 120-150 watts, I love the punch. I dry burn it at 60-80 watts. But yeah I think I melted the hairthin wrap together, can it leak metal alloy? Does it mess with the flavor? It literally tastes like dump.
     
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    The Cromwell The Frugal Vapist VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    Have no idea on the coil but always take plenty of extra vape stuff with ya on trips.
     
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    You have to have a drill to make what I make. I flew. I didnt take any extra wire to make normal coils because that was the 1st 40 gauge wrap I made. Normally I use 32-36. Claptons are very sturdy. They can last a month
     
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    I was thinking more of bringing extra coils...
     
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    Yeah you see I didnt have the foresight for that for some reason. Stupid me. Point is, I wanna know if the 40 gauge melted together instead of having micro crevases, and if it could negatively effect my flavor and texture of vapor. It was heavenly. 4 dry burns later to switch flavors and its terrible.
     
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    What kind of alloy is the wrap wire? Kanthal melts at around 2,700 degrees, nichrome 80 at around 2,500 degrees, and 316L SS at only 1,400 degrees(F) it probably overoxidized, and yeah that will leech stuff into the cotton. Good rule of thumb is if it tastes bad, don't vape it

    This is 46g kanthal, it's not melted even though I heated it until the SS cores lost their shape. It is heavily overoxidized though, just want to point out it's pretty hard to melt these alloys, but if your coil wrap is SS there is a chance - it's not an ideal metal for repeated dry burning, at high temperatures

    Screenshot_20180612-141845-810x1440.png

    (Destroyed...for science!)
     
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    yikes. I dry burn at 15 - 20 watts.
     
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    You might hit 2700 deg if you burn em bright hot.
     
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    Yeah its full blown kanthal
     
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    If they have melted together it certainly is "full blown"... only joking if it looks wierd and tastes bad and its an unfamiliar build. Id assume the worst and bin it i pulse nicrome coils at similar wattages with 39guage wraps regularly but i do stick it under a cold tap between pulses.

    Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
     
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    Could you post a picture? I'm really curious to see what it looks like

    I've got to research that, I don't think that kanthal can melt even with long 100 watt burns (I've done it), but I can't find how hot the wire itself will get

    Seems like PEEK (662 F) would melt long before the coil would, I mean really melt here not just get deformed
     
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    I suggest you find a Vape Shop and buy some wire or if none available pick up a tank with some spare coils. If you get wire all you need is a small screw driver. Enjoy the vacation and not be worrying about building coils.
     
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    Ahh but the heat would be in a tiny wire.
    Less power to burn a tiny wire open than a larger wire. And heat would have to tranfer a ways thru the leg and post to melt an insulator.
    I seriously doubt that all the wrap has just vaporized but has burned open and crudded over maybe.
     
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    I cant post it because it asks for a url of the picture but I can assure its pretty much perfect. Anyways I went to a vape shop and bought some .15 ohm triple core aliens. I also got a little cotton. Funny thing. I install this and it still has the same problem. Tastes like crap and the flavor is very muted. The previous clapton with 40 gauge wrap was incredibly tasty. Until I switched the cotton for the 4th time in a week and it just fell apart for some reason. I dont know whats going on or why this is happening its very frustrating. I even cleaned the rda.
     
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    I dont see how it could be an rda or mod problem, I dont see how that could even effect. I say this because I have a whole new build in there and it still tastes the same. I don't get it. It was top notch and then poof, crab.
     
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    I still say just buy a tank and forget it until you are back home so you can concentrate on enjoying a probably well deserved vacation.
     
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    Well I only got a day left and weve spent a lot of money. Its becoming more of a at home and every day life issue. It makes 0 sense. How does it go from perfect to bottom of the barrel no matter what I put in there
    And it was like it just magically flipped a switch. All I did was pull cotton out dry burn clean and that was it. I do it all the time.
     
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    Last day of a Vacation is time to go really live it up~! How much can a new tank cost or another RBA/RDA?
     
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    Wife will not let it happen. Even after we get back.
     
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    I can just imagine what you are listening to because you are fucking with your MOD~! Enjoy the rest of the vacation man!
     
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    Thank you
     
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    I am so frustrated, still messing with it. Ive done everything. How can it possibly go from great to trash like that?
     
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    Have you tried rewicking again?
    Maybe something was on your hands?
     
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    Yes washed them, rewicked multiple times
     
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    I'm wondering if its the 510 pin. Ive also been carrying it around in my pocket in 100 degree wheather in Florida, at various parks. Maybe something seeped into the rda from different sources at the parks and dried. But I cleaned my rda thoroughly
     
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    Is the wick your using garbage?

    have you tried cellucotton?....rayon?
     
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    Realeuax gen 3, vandy vape mesh rda. 3 lg 18650s
     
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    I'm using cotton bacon v2. Premium cotton. It was beyond good. Until that fateful rework I did 2 days ago, after that everything is trash.
     
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    Take the bad one out and rock a single coil until you get home.

    BAM!!! Problem Solved
     
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    By the way.
    Fingernail snips will cut wire if they have to.;)
     
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    I put a brand new alien clapton in there that I bought from a local shop. Again trash ):
    And I'm not new to claptons. I build my own. Been doing it for months. They blew every round coil out of the water. And I cant buy any round wire here because im flying back
     
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    Everything is terrible and it makes no sense because I've done and checked everything. The only thing left is maybe there's a residue that wont wash out? Or the 510 pin. Other than that there is no explanation
     
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    Which setup do you have?
    Single coil or Dual coil?


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    Dual, but ive been doing it for months, and it was awesome, I tried single once and it was terrible. Absolutely no flavor. But I wasnt having problems then.
     
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    You see the deck in the picture there? You see that space I cant get to, inside the clamps? I think theres something in there that's causing this. How can I clean that out or take it apart without breaking it? Water didnt fix anything
     
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    I'm wondering if I got chlorine from the pool in it
     
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    I have no idea but if you can narrow it down to one coil you could just remove the one coil and use it in single coil mode until it can be fixed.
     
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    I just woke up and it has literally the worst taste I could ever imagine out of a vape. Its completely unvapable. So glad ill be home in 4 hours to switch rdas and drill out a brand new clapton. It tastes like bitter cough medicine.
     
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