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Although surface area is quite high at 268.56 mm², the "ramp-up", time-to-temperature, or "heat capacity" is a semi-slow 113.29 mJ/K per coil.
Performance will depend on a variety of factors... the first being wattage applied. You need, at minimum, about 150 watts, with 175 or more preferred to obtain a reasonably warm "heat flux"... which is the radiant or build operating temperature.
Atomizer type, air flow (AFC) and juice blend percentage also have an effect on performance.
Click the hyperlink sigline below titled "Steam Engine advanced user guide" as well as the SE program itself... you can learn all about critical elements like surface area, heat flux and heat capacity... all of which are user tuneable elements for the optimization of your build.
Performance will depend on a variety of factors... the first being wattage applied. You need, at minimum, about 150 watts, with 175 or more preferred to obtain a reasonably warm "heat flux"... which is the radiant or build operating temperature.
Atomizer type, air flow (AFC) and juice blend percentage also have an effect on performance.
Click the hyperlink sigline below titled "Steam Engine advanced user guide" as well as the SE program itself... you can learn all about critical elements like surface area, heat flux and heat capacity... all of which are user tuneable elements for the optimization of your build.
Steam engine is great for working this stuff out.
Quads with thicker wire generally do not do well at the wattage they put out at standard voltage, imo. They usually need a little push. That's why you'll sometimes hear people say that quads are pointless on mechs. Quads need more power than they pull naturally.
I can tell you from experience that quad 24's, even at .18, have a noticeable ramp-up on my hybrid. I have to go parallel to make that build work for me. Once they heat up a little bit, they're great. Lots of warm vapor and great flavor. They retain a lot of heat and the surface area is pretty massive. It just takes a lot of power to get them there at a reasonable time.
I'm thinking that a dual 24 at .3 would probably outperform a quad greatly. The surface area is still high and they will get up there in temperature fairly quickly. A quad 28 would be more suitable if you're really itching to do a snappy quad at that resistance, though the overall temperature will be cooler.
What I'm really curious about, though, is how you were planning to fit a .3 quad 24g into your atty. That's like 9 wraps for each coil, if you wrap them to a 1/8" ID.
Quads with thicker wire generally do not do well at the wattage they put out at standard voltage, imo. They usually need a little push. That's why you'll sometimes hear people say that quads are pointless on mechs. Quads need more power than they pull naturally.
I can tell you from experience that quad 24's, even at .18, have a noticeable ramp-up on my hybrid. I have to go parallel to make that build work for me. Once they heat up a little bit, they're great. Lots of warm vapor and great flavor. They retain a lot of heat and the surface area is pretty massive. It just takes a lot of power to get them there at a reasonable time.
I'm thinking that a dual 24 at .3 would probably outperform a quad greatly. The surface area is still high and they will get up there in temperature fairly quickly. A quad 28 would be more suitable if you're really itching to do a snappy quad at that resistance, though the overall temperature will be cooler.
What I'm really curious about, though, is how you were planning to fit a .3 quad 24g into your atty. That's like 9 wraps for each coil, if you wrap them to a 1/8" ID.
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