Actually I'm with the less is more group. I've been using recipes that are 2-3% using Flavorah. Sampling FLV I can taste 1 or 2 drops in a 10 ml solution with most that I have tried except for Rich Cinnamon and Alpine Strawberry. Those are 1 or 2 drops in a 30 ml solution. Also, FLV doesn't take more than 2-4 days to get to a happy place, not 2-4 weeks. And I rarely use any sweetener as most flavors are sweet enough for me. Then again, I do love GOC at the 13.8% total that @wllmc created it at. It is GOC after all, you can't mess with perfection!