Single or Dual Coil? Which one do you prefer?

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  1. mikeybee

    mikeybee Bronze Contributor

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    Which one do you prefer? Are you a flavour chaser? Cloud chaser? Both? Both but leaning towards one more than the other? Favorite RDA? Let me know!
     
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    Don29palms Bronze Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    I like big clouds with lots of flavor. I make my own juice and wind my own coils. My favorite coils right now are rectangle wire core claptons. My favorite RDAs are the Lucid and the Chief King.
     
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    Surprisingly never heard of those. Searched up the chief king and saw that it has very little airflow slots. How's its airflow?
     
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  4. Ralph_K

    Ralph_K Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    I like dual better. favorite RDA is the Phobia
     
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    MrMeowgi The Vapin' Drummer Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    Squonk city this way so singles are my go-to. But I love duals as well in my rtas for some cloud

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  6. Cosmic

    Cosmic Bronze Contributor Member For 2 Years ECF Refugee

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    I usually run dual, but in a single rda I'll run a single parallel....24guage kanthal, 3mm, 4/5 wraps. Spits like a damn cobra! Dual coil roundwire in a single coil package.
     
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    fozzy71 Silver Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    this. I went from MTL to dual coil rta/rda and found my happy place with single coil squonking. great flavor, plenty of clouds for me and I can get away with a pocket friendly squonker out of the house. that being said I do have a dual coil rda (glok no limit @ 0.17 ohm, not much lower than most of my squonks, in fact some of my single coil squonks are actually lower) and a cubis pro with factory 0.5 ohm DL coil in my rotation right now for when I want a change of pace one way or the other from my squonks.
     
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  8. Don29palms

    Don29palms Bronze Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    Oh no the Squid Industries Chief king has alot of airflow. It has side bottom airflow and top airflow but it's very unusual.


    The Lucid RDA is my favorite but it's not for everyone.
     
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    Both leaning 85% towards dual coil - if I do single coils, they're bigger and lower resistance than one coil from a pair of duals I vape

    I believe more dense clouds leads to more flavor, so I like clouds but wont vape it if the flavor isnt nice and strong - Goon 1.5 is my favorite RDA by a wide margin, for dual coils, single coils, squonking, everything. I cut the air holes down to less than half for dual coils - the thing is amazing for flavor, with added bonus coils dont turn black like lots of bottom air atties end up doing - coils last a long time, great flavor, wide choice of airflow, yeah I'm in love with it pretty much, I have 3 and I use all of them

    I will say the best flavor I've gotten is always from bottom air RDAs, but the tradeoff of leaking, and air not reaching the top of the coil well enough for even cooling - makes the Goon 1.5 win for me
     
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  10. St.Roostifer

    St.Roostifer Gold Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    For rtas I only vape single coil attys with a 4mm coil that I use for hanging around outside and running errands. Great flavor with good juice capacity and battery life.

    For rdas I go either way and use those when I'm hanging around chilling with wifey in the bedroom watching movies etc. My wasp and recurve give me killer flavor for single coil attys. For dual coils the goon 22 is my go to. Love that little rda! About to fire up the goon right now and vape some honey tobacco while I watch the rest of my ball game.:bingo:
     
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  11. tac_driver

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    single coil NarCA, Entheon on a Pulse 80w
     
  12. KingPin!

    KingPin! In my defence, I was left unsupervised ^^ Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Platinum Contributor Member For 2 Years VU Challenge Team Reviewer

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    Like all and everything except mouth to lung stuff

    If I had to chose it would be single coil RDA’s and I like a balance of clouds and flavour but always lean more toward flavour
     
  13. Carambrda

    Carambrda Gold Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    When people see my clouds they usually assume I am a cloud chaser, but actually I'm far from it... it's just that I can't enjoy the best flavor if the clouds are too small because IME there's more to a satisfying vape than flavor alone so the visibility of the clouds is just an unavoidable byproduct of that, as it is the feel of the vape that needs to work in tandem with the flavor or else it just simply doesn't work for me. Variation is highly important to me so I switch between different coil builds of different types and sizes from time to time and that also includes single coil builds, despite I do have a go to coil build that I tend to use daily and most of the time, which is a dual coil aliens build in a 24mm or a 25mm RDA. Because I like to switch, my favorite RDAs are several many ones so I'll just name a few in random order.

    CSMNT with the District F5VE Shawty Cap
    Purge Mods Head Shot or Maelstrom or Carnage
    24mm Goon 1.5 with the SBTR Cap by The Vape Machinist
    Unholy V2
    Deathtrap, 24mm or 30mm
    Kennedy 24 or 25
    Vapergate Mason V2, 24mm or 30mm
    Buddha V4
    Genießen (by Scoundrels)
     
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    Maybe I'm just a weirdo but I don't do single coils ever. I like a hot vape with clouds and flavor both. I use low builds. .1 ohms to me is perfect. .25-.3 in series. Lowest I've gone so far was a .07 and that was a bit much. Won't do that again. 24mm Goons were all I used for a while. Love 'em. The Vandy Vape Icon (not Iconic) is my go to for series. Then came the Dead Rabbit and Drop. I want to get a lipo and a 30mm rda but I keep hearing that the 30mm's are not the best for flavor.
     
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    CF2ABBAA-9478-4709-B3AD-A34F794B896D.jpeg 7A732CC0-F2BC-4C16-BA17-C38E570A3630.jpeg I’m a flavor chaser who enjoys lots of thick vape. I have about a dozen RDAs and are probably half single coil the other dual. The Kennedy is the top dual mod of my gear and the Enthion and Nudge 22 am for single coils. All run around.4-.7 ohms ss 316l single round wire spaced in tc at 35-40 watts
     
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  16. Carambrda

    Carambrda Gold Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    A single coil can be both big and powerful enough to give precisely the type of vape that you say you like. Here's an example of a single coil in my gold Goon 1.5 that I use on my Surric X-Vault PWM mod:

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    This one is .18 ohms in the 30mm Deathtrap. I use it on my Vapergate The 99 stacked tube mech with dual iJoy 26650s:

    7-core alien deathtrap 30mm (front).jpg

    30mm RDAs can give really excellent flavor, but unfortunately most people simply don't understand key important factors like the size of the coil build, the wattage, draw strength, and positioning of the coil(s) in relation to the airflow and airflow settings. If the distance between the air hole and the coil is too long, then most of the airflow misses the coil as the focus and speed of the airflow is weakened too much by the time it reaches the coil. Similarly, if the coil is not positioned immediately in front of the primary airflow's center location, you won't get an evenly distributed cooling; remember the cooling effect also is amplified by the evaporation itself, which, in turn, is amplified by both speed and stability of airflow. Air moving too slow across one particular area or part of the coil's surface creates an imbalance that IME will cause flavor to be degraded as well as accelerates gunking of the coil. Moving too fast it just dilutes everything and results in the kind of turbulence that messes up the stability, or smoothness required to be able to get that warm/hot dense saturated flavorful vape. Airflow stability issues can also occur if the distance between the air hole and the coil is too short, causing air to tend to bounce off instead of evenly distribute itself around the center of the coil upon impact. The strength of the draw and the amount of restrictiveness really need to work in tandem to produce not only the right amount of air for the amount of vapor production you'll get, but also the speed at which the air hits the surface of the coil is paramount. With a bigger RDA there's simply a bigger volume of air inside that can easier start to dilute the flavor unless you know how to make sure the right amount of air gets pushed in the right directions using the right amount of pressure. Air pressure is also the key, as the only way to get a jet stream of air to reach far enough to meet the coil's center area location in that 30mm Deathtrap shown above is by making proper use of pressure, and, you can't get much pressure if you don't allow at least SOME amount of restrictiveness to be in there. That IMO is where most people fail when they claim poor flavor.
     
  17. Pony Tail

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    Thank you very much. I learn something new every day. I appreciate your taking the time to explain this. If there's not a pin for airflow on here already, I honestly haven't looked, there should be now.
     
  18. Lotus Insane

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    I used to smoke pipe, so I lean heavy towards dual coil and want that thick luscious vape, but needs to have a good strong flavor as well. Favorite rda, can't tell, haven't tried enough to really know. Out of the ones I own, my Kennedy 24 is probably the best.
     
  19. Roadtrip635

    Roadtrip635 Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    I like vaping both, depends on my moods. I'm more about flavor than clouds and probably vape single coil more than dual
     

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