Stuck in a rut!

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  1. R3alJim Shady

    R3alJim Shady Gold Contributor Member For 4 Years

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    All of a sudden I'm not enjoying my DIY liquid recipes as I once did. Currently switching between a Vanilla Bourbon Caramel Cream, Black Honey RY4, Vanilla Custard, Blueberry Pomegranate Peach, and my ADV Strawberry Watermelon...

    Variety certainly isn't the issue. I just don't get it. Maybe I need to experiment with some additives? TFA Smooth, FA Magic Mask, etc?

    Anyone else go through this?

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    has your diet changed? Any new meds, even vitamins?

    Try eating spicy foods.. drink coffee.. sniff the beans..eat crackers.. or scrub your tongue

    Tongue scrubber pic.

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    neti pots help too and with pollen about to crank up.. you will need it :)
     
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    Variety yes, but all desserts and/or sweet vapes.

    Try something different, ya poor sweet receptors are 'prolly worn out. ;-)
    You wouldn't want cake and fruit for food everyday, eh?

    I'd bet you use tanks too, having the same flavor for long periods.
    Me, I have like 20 mods in front of me and no two have the exact same flavor.

    Also, RDAs are good to switch things up easily. Mix 'n match juices, experiment!
     
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    Diet has definitely changed, but it's just that I feel unsatisfied with my mixes. Like something's missing from some of them. Like a sort of mouthfeel or base for the flavors to stand up on. Low notes maybe?

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    I appreciate the advice but it feels more like my mixes are missing something. I see to be unhappy with all of them in one way or another. I've got a hefty Nic River order in the cart and I think that may help to get some new flavors in.

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    Unless you can share recipes.. we will all be sitting here, in wonder :p


    Actually... @CaFF has good suggestions too.. ;)


    sometimes it is just a simple equipment change, rather than a recipe change.. but wont know unless you can share more details :)
     
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    Here's a good example. I'm currently vaping this minus the FW Rice Cereal. It's good but could use something to add another, different element.
    My idea was to get more of a texture to the vape.

    Oh and I mostly vape pretty tight MTL RTAs these days. KFL+, ESG Skyline, Dvarw, etc.

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    From what I see of that...

    If you are using a mtl.. you must have the best sucking action going on.. that is only a 70vg/30pg to start..
    pg carries the flavor.. and for mtl most is 50/50 or 40vg/60pg maybe even 30vg/7pg...

    second..

    (I have not mixed with tfa in many years... personal choice, there is better out now)

    I would decrease the black honey by 1.5%
    Increase the rice cereal to 2% at least

    hey did you do solo taste testing with these?? if not.. try it and find out where you do like them as a solo.. is a thought..

    Kentucky bourbon needs to drop a 1%
    increase custard to at least 2%

    try that and see what you think.. I can not do this for all of your recipes.. best for you to tinker around.. :)
     
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    Most of my mixes are 60vg/40pg, but making the shift to 50/50 may not be a bad idea.
    I'll take your advice on the percentages. Thanks!

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    I suggest grab a dripper.. they do make some mlt.. and try out your flavors..
    start low, work up.. take lots of notes.. combine 2... if you are happy with that, add in yet another and so one..
     
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    I liked that song :p
     
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    Why didn't I think of that?!

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    I'm sure everyone has heard me say the same thing. Probably annoyed by now lol.

    Nilla cake got me out of the funk for awhile. I know I know, buying juice is bad. It was a profile I haven't really had much of but I've been vaping it for weeks so I'm headed back to the rut lol.

    So maybe try a profile you've never had. Guava is another one that got me out of a rut for a bit.

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    Might try brighter mixes or brighten up your regulars with citrus. FA forest fruit is a good single and is refreshing.
     
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    I thought this happens to pretty much everyone that vapes in any capacity. As a bakery lover myself it doesn't hurt to have a couple of occasional vapes that you cycle through along side your staples. Definitely helps prevent flavor burnout. More recently I have become obsessed with Mango vapes which is great for busting up vanillas and custards.
     
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    Mango huh? LMAO
     
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    I have cloned the Unicorn Mango Milk Box. I could drink the stuff.
     
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    Mango seems to be a flavor you either love or hate.
    For myself? :blech:
     
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    Mango can be hit or miss. Mostly miss in my experience. I used Capella Mango and any more than 3% made it taste like soap

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    With me it is not just mango flavoring but genuine mangos as well.
     
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    Haha I totally get that. Sometimes they taste a bit... piney.

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    I've been looking for a decent mango, care to share....it's cool if not.
     
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    Absolutely. I posted it in the DIY mixing threads but will paste it here as well (because you asked)
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    I find that mixing mango with apricot or peach and a bit of vanilla is quite tasty too. :)
    Real mango is kinda tart, so the sweeter stuff mellows it out.
     
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    I tried a lot of them, and when I tried HS (Hangsen) just solo, my taste buds said YEAH.
    Everyone I have suggested it too has liked it best also.
     
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    I like the Hangsen tobacco flavors the best.
    Have not tried any others.
     
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    Does the hangsen have green notes or just ripe fruit?
     
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    HS Essence RY4 is the best. IMHO.
    Been one of few ADV juices I use since about 2014 or so. :D
     
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    Yeah I tried about maybe 8 or 10 assorted tobacco flavorings from several brands before I found Hangsen.
     
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    Yeah, back in the day it was all about Dekang. But then their flavor guy jumped ship to HS and well..the rest is history. :D
     
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    I had forgotten all about Dekang.
     
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    I still got like 100ml of their 555 flavoring I don't use anymore. It was my ADV back in 2012..lol...
     
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    didn't they make juice too?

    Was kinda before my time as I switched to vaping in Jan 2015
     
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    I think so, probably still do. But, I switched to DIY real early and didn't look back. ;-)
     
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    yeah I was 100% DIY within a couple of months after starting vaping.
     
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    I cannot find that HS Essence RY4 at bcf. link ?
     
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    That's one of the reasons I like it.
    No "green" or bitterness that I notice.
    I have the same problem with most of the "peach flavors" ... most have a "green" , unripe taste to me.

    To me the Mango has a "real" taste, not phony.
    My bottle is a couple of years old, .... so unless they changed the formula, ??

    Funny, I don't eat Mango's, but I like the vape ... Now, cantaloupe I eat, but can't stand to vape.

    I agree Cromwell ... HS is a top tobacco flavor maker.
    I've just about eliminated all others but for a few, here and there.
     
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    And of course I don't have either of these flavors, guess it's time to pay a visit to BCF :cool:
     
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    Yes, Hangsen makes juice, it was all I vaped for a good while before starting DIY last year. Very good RY4 flavor, says my sister. I liked their cinnamon, tiramisu, grape, a few others I can't recall now. Loved Dekang's red cola, but wasn't able to find it for long. Have never found another red cola as good as that Dekang. I have a cola syrup flavoring that I'll experiment with one of these days.

    As far as I know, all of HS's pre-made juice is 70/30, so ...t...h...i...n....

    Used to order it cheap from a Chinese vendor called Vapor Break. 50ml bottles for something like $5.
     

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