Subforum For Wicking Discussions?

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  1. CrazyChef

    CrazyChef Custom Hand Crafted Coils - PureCoils.com VU Vendor VU Donator Platinum Contributor Member For 2 Years ECF Refugee

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    If possible, I think it might be beneficial for those of us with wicking issues to have another venue than just the "Coils" forum. A place to discuss various wicking techniques, materials, how-to articles, etc.

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  2. VAPEROXX

    VAPEROXX Bronze Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    Agreed! Wicking is just as, if not more important than the build of the coil, or many other aspects of building, but very taken for granted.
     
  3. mommysprincesskatelynn

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    RJ-Kloudburg VU Donator Member For 1 Year

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    I would be very interested in what you have to say, the E-juice factor would be very interesting..
     
  6. vuJim

    vuJim Silver Contributor

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    There is a danger in too many sub-forums: Makes it harder to browse.

    There's already eight (8) sub-forums dedicated to rebuilding, in one aspect or another. Most of them make sense to me. Some: Not so much. "Coils" would fall into that latter category, IMHO. So would a "Wicking" sub-forum.

    Put another way: Sub-divide enough and you can do away with "General," because everything will be covered in a sub-forum.
     
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  7. bfrisky

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    GAH! Wicking!!! I'm a handy person building makes sense to me but wicking, WICKING! It is the one thing that is a struggle for a newb like me, no matter how many videos I watch.
     
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    good idea...I think the biggest problem alot of people have with vaping gennys with ss mesh is not that they have coil problems which is what they usually assume, it's because they don't build a good wick or they choke their wick. I would assume you pillow stuffers have encountered a similar thing with folks vaping on cotton wicks.
     
  9. Vape Queen Kahalifa!

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    Since I been using coolwhic cotton I havnt had any wicking issues. I can run a loose wick or a nice snug one. Check out coolwhic.com I purchased mines at www.socalivc.com
     
  10. Alter

    Alter Bronze Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    I wick with rayon, been doing it so long that I got it down to a science and have no breakin taste at all. I didn't wick with cotton all that long but did figure very quickly that its got a very short lifespan so I went into hemp fiber that was a hassle to clean out the off colored shards out and remove the knots but outlasted cotton in my builds. Removing the bulk out of the tails without loosing density in the coil in rayon is the trick, with pointy tweezers, pin or I use a dental pick scrape through tails to remove excess without pulling material from the coil using. He was doing this with cotton in the video I saw. I've been rebuilding now 4 years and just came across this method to thin tails in a video and used it in my subtank mini, TFV4 and Merlin with outstanding results.
     
  11. Carambrda

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    ^^ I have no use for rayon because usually I need to dry burn my coils at least every other day anyway in the first place, and that is despite that I pull the ends back up after tucking them under the coils as well as I loosen up the fiber strands in and around the first and final wraps of the coils. It's just the nature of the juices that I generally prefer to vape, and because typically I like my vape to be on the warm side of neutral... so my coils just gunk up completely before the cotton starts to fall apart.
     
  12. NineNine

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    Agreed! +1
     
  13. Guyando115

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    Why do you need to dry burn your coils so often?
     
  14. Carambrda

    Carambrda Gold Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    These days I don't usually have to dry burn that often anymore, mostly because I have changed and improved my wicking a lot since then.
     
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    I'm IMO still kinda new in the stainless steel building and grasping the concept of TC control. Never-the-less, over dryburning the SS builds is very easy to do and having to get my clapton almost red to get the cooties to harden enough to scrape off. You can pulse, scrape, pulse scrape but eventually having to get the coil quite hot in order to scrape to remove the char. I put some water into a jug with a metal tip and putting a drop or two on the hot build after a pulse really cleans it up well then blot to dry, repeat a few times and your build is cleaned up nicely without having to make the build red hot.
    I have to clean the airflow tube in my STM RBA and that requires taking the RBA to bits to clean or the next build has a char taste to it. Water doesn't wash it out enough. Even after washing there is remnants of old juice under the peek insulators also. I remove the build, with torch heat up some then dunk into water and without using excessive heat it cleans the build very well then I reinstall the build back into the RBA.

    The difference between cotton and rayon wicking that I've posted this before but it still pertains in a wicking thread:

    Cotton...the juice flows inside the fiber thus expanding the fiber so less in the coil cause it expands enough not to choke the juice flow inside the coil. The flowing inside the fiber is part to why it clogs easily and wears out so fast. Your using heavy sweet juices that partially vaporized at the ends of the coil blocking the flow inside the fiber so your loosing flow ability of the fibers slowly until no more flow and coil burns.

    Rayon... the juice flows outside the fiber so it has to be tight in the coil cause as-per-say the rayon shrinks when actually it settles upon itself and doesn't shrink at all. Rayon you have the problem of massive thick tails cause of so much material that has to be in the coil, literally so tight that you almost distort the coil installing the rayon. Its those massive tails that choke juice flow so thinning them by scraping sharp tweezers or anything pointy through the tail removing excess material to a desired amount for proper juice flow. Shortest distance between well and coil is also crucial, making rabbit ears then stuffing having a mish-mash is IMO wrong. Juice the coil before installing the chimney, making sure all fibers are straight, even making the tails longer than they should be to pull some back to ensure the top of the outside wraps aren't exposed.
    I've been wicking with rayon for 3 years now and when wicked properly nothing can compare to its longevity and its ability to move juice effectively. I easily move 100+ mls of juice through a rayon build and I may have a cocoon coil but after a rinse the rayon is just barely browned and in very good shape
     
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  17. Guyando115

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    Interesting, I was told by Carambrda the best way to clean coils is with sparkling water, not just plain old tap water but to be honest I change coils fairly regularly to experiment with builds etc so they rarely get to the stage where the need a clean. Rayon is hard to find in Australia so I'd need a US distributor, or euro. I've had varying success with ss. In some rdas the flavour is great,in others not so much. I've never bothered with tc. But each to their own
     
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    And I can get through 60ml of desert juice before needing to change cotton so, really, I think I'll stay with cotton. Thanks for the info though.
     
  19. Carambrda

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    Rayon wrecks the flavor for me... it is readily available here, but still nobody uses it─and not just because it's more difficult to get the wicks done properly. About that sparkling water, you don't need to use up a whole bottle per dry burn session or anything like that... use just half a cup or so and that you can pour it on the coils to make them wet.
     
  20. Guyando115

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    Yeah I haven't exactly heard good things about rayon. I'll remember that tip when/if cleaning coils
     

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