The Secret to Weight Loss

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  1. ConnieMulligan

    ConnieMulligan New Member

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    My weight loss method is exercises.
     
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  2. Spyg0at

    Spyg0at Gold Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    Update! 162 this morning..my method works for me. I am no longer a vegetarian, had to go back to meat protein due to muscle repair (I work out...a lot). Portion control and mentally telling yourself that you are going to eat to live, not live to eat works if you have discipline. I'll stop losing weight when I hit my goal of 150 pounds. Then it's all maintenance.
     
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    Ryedan Silver Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    Good for you @Spyg0at :)

    Whatever works for anyone is great!! I've been maintaining at 190 pounds for a while now. Been recovering from surgery for the last 6 weeks and gained around 5 pounds. I know I've been eating too many calories lately for my activity level and I'm going to fix that now. It helps that my activity level is going up too.

    I also think about eating to live not living to eat. Internalizing that has been very good for me [​IMG]
     
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  4. kross8

    kross8 Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    I am going back to intermediate fasting. For years (years ago) I did intermediate fasting because that was my lifestyle..not part of a weight control program. Now I am doing it with a bias to Keto meals/foods.

    As I have aged,, and quit smoking I have put on 15 pounds that don't seem to want to leave with dieting/working out. So I got to thinking about 'the old me',, I was fine not eating all day,,,, but instead only at dinner with my family. It wasn't a big deal if I went out to lunch with friends as I wouldn't over eat the meal. Granted I had an 'extreme cal burning job' that I dont have now.... hence the adoption of keto foods. (as a bias).

    My plan:
    eat once a day-I like 'dinner time' so that is inside a 4 hour window of 4pm to 8pm
    keep carbs under 20grams a day
    keep protein under 40grams a day*
    keep fats around 80-150grams a day
    (note the above calc's leave me very little in calories-that wasn't a huge part of the diet plan,, but a needed part starting out)
    I am going to closely monitor my protein intake,, if I get really hungry and 'go over' a bit I wont panic,, but I watched a British vid that mentions a diet heavy in proteins can backfire as far as cell repair goes,,once you go over your needs in protein,, its like turning off your repair system....I don't know,,, but I figure I will throw it in there anyway

    In order for this to work for me,,, I will rely heavy on seasonings,, getting all of the foods on the plate at the same time instead of spreading them out like snacks/mini meals (you may want to go that route), I want the foods to be a 'meal'.

    My food sources/portions are small,, (the numbers are pulled off the net & not exact)

    food cal fat pro carb
    avocado 300 27 4 15 (only about 5 net carbs) (small)
    califlower-rice 25 .5 2 5 (1 cup)
    sausage 180 15 10 1 (2oz)
    spinach 7 1 1 1 (1 cup fresh)
    bacon 60 5 3 0 (1 thick)
    tuna 70 .5 16 0 (can)
    hamburger 215 17 15 0 (3oz)
    ham 100 3 15 0 (3 oz)
    egg 74 5 6 1 (1 poached)
    olives 50 10 0 0 (10 olives)

    goal ranges:
    75%fat/20%pro,5%carb 100gfat/50gpro,20gcarb

    I used to do 1, or 2 or 6 days fasts for many years as a form of detox after huge family get togethers/meals (the holidays). So having a little meal 1 time a day should be a little easier.

    I made 'spinach chips' awhile ago for the first time,, not bad,, may become a cheat snack I dont count. lol.

    Something I was thinking about,,, maybe humans can get to the point they dont need much food to live on,, meaning food becomes less important (grocery bill massively shrinks) .. I saw a video while back of some old man who doesn't really eat much for years, he looked fine.

    Anyway,,,today is day 1,, my husband will have more problem with this plan than me as he always did when I fasted before. I may need to get magnesium or other vitamins if I discover any problems. I figure 1 month or so for reasonable results. At that point my plan is to fast 1 day a week,, and 'intermediate fasting' with the 4 hour window every day with full portion meals.

    My weakness is carbs,, breads, rice, potatos, pizza and pasta :)

    tonights dinner attempt: (sausage was removed)
    food cal fat pro carb
    avocado 300 27 4 15 (small)
    califlower-rice 25 .5 2 5 (1 cup)
    spinach 7 1 1 1 (1 cup fresh)

    (removed---cook the sausage then drain the fat & blot it with a paper towel) cook the cauliflower rice (its good with cheddar) mash up the avocado ,, mix everything together and make spinach rolls.

    the above equals:
    330ish calories (data for avocados is actually for a large one)
    29ish for fats
    10ish for protein
    21 for carbs---I can live with that (about 11 net carbs)

    decided to not go with the sausage. on a positive note,, it was decent,, hot cauliflower rice on room tempt smashed avocado with spinach 'fries' wasnt bad,, c/r was cooked with fajita seasoning. its about a mindset lol, trying to keep it simple,, this may be a standard meal for awhile. maybe tweak the avocado down due to carbs.
     
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  6. kross8

    kross8 Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    update
    lost 9+ pounds
    kept calories down to 300-500 each day except friday i had 1200
    kept net carbs well under 20g each day including friday
    minor headache on day #4,, asprin took care of that
    had minor sleep issues,, seems cleared up now
    only extended my walks to twice a day on some days ..time permitting

    my clothes do feel ever so slightly looser,, that said i will accept the 'you only lost water weight' for the first 5 pounds,, the other 4 lost pounds was fat.

    found to be a satisfying tortilla/quesadilla/wrap:
    packaged guacamole cups 100cal's/2ncarbs
    tortilla 4ncarb/80cal tortillas,1 or 2 day depending on recipe
    2 strips of bacon 100cal/ocarb
    1/4 shredded cheese 100cal/1carb
    1 rice cake like item, its called 'Magic Pop',,,about the size of a small bowl, 15cal/3gcarb,,i broke it up into 'chips' and ate some of the above listed guac.

    i also like cauliflower rice heated up and topped off with the mashed avocado with seasonings &spinach.. lots of spinach..this week i will likely add crumbled bacon to it as well

    spinach is so low in everything,, you could have a bowel of it and not count it.

    i was really glad to find the low net carb tortillas,, it makes the meals feel more normal. granted they dont have the same taste.. but if you use just a tad of butter/oil or butter flavors spray,, it greatly improves the taste.. this also greatly opens the window for what you can put into the tortilla meatwise and veggiewise.

    i am very strict about eating in my 4 hour window of 4pm-8pm

    i will continue to buy the prepackaged guac/avocado because its easier to count the data and store. a bonus to this was,, i made a quesadilla and all of that little cup didn't fit on the tortilla so i got to eat guac and chips :) (ok,, just a little,,with the magic pop rice cakes,, but it was good and kept me on goal of only 1 of those cups in a day)

    the Magic Pop rice bowls are kind of high in net carbs,, so i make sure i only eat them when my overall carb count will easily be under 20g/day,,,, they are advertised for filling up the bowl,, but i think you would end up with a mess ,, + lower calories than pork rinds

    there are many prepacked meats to make this diet dead simple,, if you stuck with the restrictions your grocery bill could come in under $30 week.,, even $20.

    i bought a package of 'pulled pork' ,, it was decent,, i had it with cheese and a tortilla,, husband ate the other '4 servings' lol,, when you measure out the food,, its far less than you would think is a portion.........normally we would say that same package was maybe enough for the 2 of use split equally........not anymore

    anyway,, its a journey that so far is quite 'do-able' for me,, looking forward to the next week
     
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  7. kross8

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    update:
    lost 2 pounds,, would likely have lost more but i twisted an ankle and spent most of the week on the couch.

    i didn't get bored and eat,, stayed true to the lower carbs & calories and only ate in my 4 hour window.

    seem to gravitate to avocado a lot,, bacon and low carb tortilla & a 'cup of spinach with seasonings' and a dash of olive oil or salad dressing

    been reading up on drinking too much water... years ago i rarely drank anything all day.....then when i switched to vaping,, i started drinking a lot of water.........but i never really thought about how much water i was consuming. i have 20oz yeti cup that i carry everywhere,, i refill it every hour (at least) out of habit,,,,,,,,,that is way too much water! my metabolism & my body's ability to absorb vitamins etc may be 'drowned out' with this much water consumption. so i am going to pay more attention to when i drink water and how much
     
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    kross8 Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    update:
    loss of 0.2 pounds

    more of a social week with family and friends and possibly the dreaded plateau period

    so i stayed loyal to the less than 20g of carbs (5 of 7 days) but had doubled my calorie intake to closer to 1000 each day and only in the 4 hour window except for 2 days (higher carbs= 60+/-, but kept calories to right at 1000). i actually felt guilty eating at lunchtime instead of dinner time & the higher carbs,, i later felt sluggish on the heavier carb days.

    intermediate fasting of 4pm-8pm works great for me and was very easy to adapt to,, the 20g of carbs/day isn't too hard until my husband orders french fries and snacks on cookies all night/ every night lol

    so this week i am 'back on the wagon' 500 calories & less than 20g carbs. i was a little surprised at my 'guilty feelings' when i hit 1000 calories,, its still less than i burn a day, but it felt wrong like i was disrespecting the progress i had already made.

    my husband wants me to increase my calories to 1000 a day or just dump the diet altogether. i have 5 more pounds i want to lose & hold for 1 month of 'normal eating' and possibly another 5 pounds for pre-holidays buffer.

    i calc:
    50cal/hour just for existing/breathing =1200 calories to live, so if i keep my max calories at 1000 i still get a 200 calorie deficit on my "pig out days'. (i burn far more calories a day,, but i use the above as my yard stick to stay on track)

    if you retain any water,, so part of my weight issue could have been 1) holding too much water when i was drinking a min of 240oz- 320oz of water & not counting my heavy coffee intake a day rather than the 50-70oz needed a day 2) my body wasn't getting any nutritional value to whatever i was eating because it was being drowned,,leading to improper absorption to send correct messages to metabolism system.

    1 pound =3500 calories
    fwiw= 2 cups of water = 1 pound +/-,, i think this will work itself out if it hasn't already, clothes are looser now anyway

    i do feel better cutting my water intake down to a more normal level,, and i feel better without the former heavier load of carbs,, i will keep both practices going forward.

    coffee has been cut down to 2 pots a day from 6 pots,,,,these are small pots,, years ago i drank 8 big pots of coffee a day with cream and sugar,, now i just use cream,, about half as much,,this has been harder than the diet lol.....i will work on cutting my coffee out altogether at some point
     
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    lost 2.5 pounds this week,, getting close to my target lost weight goal,,but i wanted to lose another 5 just for holiday prep... then i got to thinking about 'what has changed' over the years,,, years ago i was very muscular so that 'weight' is not what i should be aiming for since i am not as muscular these days. that said,, i think i will add an additional 10lbs to weight loss goal +5 holiday pounds.... in the new year i think i will sign up for strength training and a self defense class.
     
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    no data this weekend,, had to make a near road trip (meet someone half way).

    stuck to the 'diet' for the most part,, had 'road food Friday/Saturday',,, but I did try to stay on the healthy range.
     
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    Rossum, that is a fascinating video. When I decided to change my diet (as opposed to 'go on a (weight loss) diet') I did my research and what I ended up with was basically what he describes between 10:33 - 10:54 minutes. The only other thing I do is that I also do my best to eliminate processed foods.

    That new diet allowed me to lose ~80 pounds without being hungry, and stick to it. It does though mean I had to significantly change what and when I eat and I think that's difficult for a lot people. But for anyone who can do it, it's a great way to go. And now I also know more about why it works so well :)
     
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    I read this book in 1983 when I was 25. I got it in the school library and finished it in one day. The next day I became a full-fledged vegetarian. Within 3 months my weight was down to 175-180 lbs and I was running 5 miles a day. Also, the day I read the book was the last day I had a soda. I've not had a single one in 34 years.

    Today, I weigh 168 lbs, I have 9% body fat (measured 3 months ago) and I exercise regularly. This book changed my life for the better, but it has been a lot of work. I'll eat some junk whenever I want, but I don't want it very often and when I do, it's in small amounts.

    However, the true key was a mind-set change of becoming a person who eats to live and not one who lives to eat. I haven't regretted it one day.

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1011900.Everything_You_Always_Wanted_to_Know_about_Nutrition
     
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    over last 2 weeks,, 4 lbs gained due to 'not the best selection' of foods on the road back and forth and sitting in a hospital for pops'.........very stressful,, convincing a 'rugged man' that his new life involves a wheelchair or a coffin if he rejects the wheelchair. a side order of a nursing home threat suddenly made the wheel chair more tolerable for him.
     
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    When you think about it it would make sense for us to naturally evolve so that the foods we eat were our medicine, and not our addiction.
     
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    It does make sense, and perhaps it could have happened. Unfortunately, the food industry has intervened and set the course to their liking.

    I first went to Thailand in 1998 and I saw very few overweight Thais. There were some US fast food outlets, but not many at all. The ones that were heavy were the young kids who were attracted to Mcdonald's. I've been to Thailand every year since then and I've watched the proliferation of not just the franchises, but also the entire processed food industry of the West has penetrated and been accepted by the Thais. They now suffer from the same weight and health issues as the West.

    No place on this planet is safe from the multi-nationals. It's a fucking crime against humanity.
     
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    Rossum Gold Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    Nobody is forced to eat what those companies offer. It's a choice. Choosing poorly has consequences.
     
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    It's not that simple.
     

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