This is what a forum members thinks of disabled veterans.

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  1. Time

    Time Gold Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    He asked in another thread if I received any government checks. I told him I'm a disabled vet. This was his response.

    I wish he could say that to my face.

    I don't know about the rest of you fellow veterans, or even the vast majority of non veterans, but I don't think we are getting anything "free" from the government. I think I earned it. In fact, I'd give every penny back in exchange to have my health back.

    How many people think of disabled vets as "takers" getting "free stuff" from the government?
     
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    Don't know the entire conversation but at face value that's fucked up.
     
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    IMHO we need to do every thing we can for our vet's.
     
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    That is severely fucked. Thanks for serving, you have my respect.
     
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    First, Thank You so much for your service. It's sad we've created a nation of Fucking clueless idiots.

    We don't do nearly enough for our veterans.
     
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    Sounds like the thoughts of someone who has never served their country. Would like to have taken him on some trips with me during my 25 years in the Air Force.... Might have learned about Serving his country, and be less of a douchbag Thank you for your service.
     
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    I thank you for your service.. you cant fix ignorant, so dont try. Hopefully that person never gets hurt on the job and finds he is need of help
     
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    Political discussion. They are never nice, but this came out of the blue. We were talking about the election and then.........................

    I don't care about his personal attack. That's just politics. But, I don't think there are any injured or sick veterans that think their compensation came at no cost to themselves. It's not "free" money. And I don't think they view themselves as "takers". It isn't welfare. It's payment for daily pain.

    http://vapingunderground.com/threads/government-watch.287794/page-17#post-1501406
     
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    No doubt funds that come from tax payers are probably squandered when it comes to vet's health care but that's the government and their forte. As far as vets being 'takers' lmao, that's laughable. Apparently they've never been to a VA facility. The hurry up and wait mantra makes its way all the way down the chain. Some are taken care of better than others but it's typically no posh healthcare. More like government canned food level and the vets are just thankful for SOME sort of treatment. Those who yap out their ass are typically the ones furthest from a clue.

    What the hell are they thinking offering medical care to vets, everyone knows service members are riding on their cush pay. lmfao. I don't know what some people think service members are paid or what the coverage and healthcare is like but I'm guessing they're way off. The VA I went to (Phx) when my stepdad was in and out of the hospital was no premium Kaiser facility. The few times I had to go to sick bay wasn't much different. Poke, prod, here's some motrin, back in line lol.
     
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    Fuck that commie motherfucker.
    I pray he gets in a spot where a vet can help and refuses to do so for his views on Vets.

    Cocksuckers like dave I would not piss on them if I lit them on fire.

    I do hope that dave gets his head out of his ass and realizes that the vast majority of practicing MD.s have some VA or service experience unless they are full blow H1b holders.
     
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    I get it. I'm disabled too.
    but at least tag a motherfucker if you are going to devote a thread to talking shit about him.

    @OBDave
     
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  13. Time

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    I did in my initial post, I must have edited it out. Anyway, I told him in the other thread I going to post his quote in this subforum.

    You don't actually know me as a person to shy away from direct confrontation, do you? :D
     
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    How is this not mud pit material?
     
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    Actually you are 100% correct skt, and away we gooooooooo:wave: Moved
     
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    I'm right? I guess the year is almost up so I was due one.

    :)
     
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    Fucking forum Nazi.

    I posted in vaping veterans because it's a veteran issue and I want veterans to see it and respond with their thoughts.

    Just like other threads I started in Vaping Veterans.
     
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    Thank you and every Vet out there for their service. Our Vets are truly pillars of this great nation.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
     
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    Thanks. We wouldn't want veterans browsing the veteran section to see it, would we?:rolleyes:

     
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    Hey,,, close my trading post thread please...


     
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    BUTTHURT
    TRUMP WILL FIX UR ISSUES STOP CRYING! Thanks for ur service , I think I thanked you already over at the fan boi thread!


     
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    All that talk about snow flakes and cry babies...
     
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    well since we are in the mudpitt....go fuck yourself..like a crybaby you go screaming for a mod to impose your will on other people
     
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    You got anything to say about the subject of this thread fuck nut or did you just come to toss out another forum Nazi salute?

    For a guy that offered to set the bullshit aside, you sure came out swinging. I hadn't said a negative word to or about you since you offered. Then, like a cunt, you get my thread moved for no reason. Seems you didn't mean it but then I didn't think you did. Just took a little patients on my part to find out.

    Address the OP or shut the fuck up. I won't allow a hijack.
     
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    Here we go


     
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    Address the OP or shut the fuck up. Quit trying to hijack my thread.
     
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    LIKE I said mr trump will take care of the vets... i hope... thanks for the service man...
    EJ OUT!!


     
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    After serving 6.5 years I decided to get out. Mr. Reagan was still the CIC, there were no shooting wars,life was good and jobs were out there.

    I've never Doubted my decision.

    The decision to join in the first place was a simple matter. I was tired of school, didnt want to work in a factory and didnt like the idea of Tech School. A friend of my fathers was a "double dipper." After having 3 tanks shot out from under him as a Sergeant in Korea, 4 tanks and 1 APC shot out from under him as a Captain in Vietnam he was medically retired.

    The net result of gung ho tankmanship and ultimately the reason for his retirement was a spinal cord injury that no VA doctor could find any other treatment then steriods and pain killers. Upon discharge he applied for and secured a job working with my father for the EPA as a project manager. thru the years his back pain became debilitating.


    And the VA folks didnt have an open appointment for 6 weeks so he went to a doctor on his Federal Employee Insurance and that doctor scheduled a surgery for the next day, cured his back pain permanently and he was able to complete the required 20 years for a Federal Employee Pension.


    His first name was Jim and I know him to be an honest, brave and very intelligent man who talked me out of going to Paris Island for basic and attending it in Orlando Florida for the Navy. He gave about 7 pound of Muscle out of his back for his Country and imported about 2 pounds of RPG caisng metal into the US abot a 1/16th of an inch away from some very major nerves.( The cause of all of the pain) IMHO that man earned every cent of Tax payer funded retirement for his military service and if someone had the nerve to call him a "freeloader" he would have handed them their teeth. Since he was a Marine he didnt know how to fail (or spell the word) and never gave anything less then his best. He also earned the Civil Service Pension 10 or 15 times over coordinating Federal and State Responses to hazardous material train wreck and chemical spills.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is this. Live your life for you, ignore the ignorant thankless assholes who have no idea what it actually means to serve and be a successfull part of something much larger then themselves and console yourself with the fact they we didnt serve for ourselves, we served for honor and Country.


    (Of course, there's no reason you cant send them a random PM occasionally saying "fuck you freeloader" because as all of us veterans know, anyone who hasnt risked coming home under a flag has no clue what we have experienced and no right to question us or our service.)
     
  29. OBDave

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    Hey, I said it, I've got to own it. I wouldn't have been as harsh in retrospect, but thanks for quoting in full, including the part where I said I'm glad you're able to get the funding you need. I still am. I still find hypocrisy in believing "I deserve government benefits but no one else does unless I also happen to think like them." I'll stand by that as well. I'm not going to go into the OP's criticism of another member's disabilities here, or his insistence upon delivering his own expert diagnosis of that member's condition via keyboard.

    I also figured my time for being able to derive something useful out of this forum was running out in the runup to the election and increasing polarization here. Hate my opinion if ya want, hate me for being honest, hate me for disagreeing with you, hell, bash away for whatever the fuck reason floats y'alls boat. Time for me to peace the fuck out.
     
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  30. Time

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    First of all, scheduler veterans benefits(100% P&T) are not paid out based on "need". They are paid out regardless of income. They are compensation not fucking welfare. A veteran can make millions and still be compensated so you can shove your "need" up your ass.

    Second, your narrative is fucked up. Nobody said a word about government benefits but you. The fucking topic was the election results. So quit putting words in my mouth that I didn't say. That's a topic for a different thread.
     
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    You called me a Nazi. Actually twice now. I don't like Nazi's or being called one.

    As to the comment that started this thread, I don't agree with the sentiment at all and quite frankly found it to be reprehensible. I hate war. I hate everything about war. I can not think of one good reason to send the best a nation has to offer across seas to kill, maim and be killed and maimed. If that wasn't revolting enough, what they come home to is poor medical care, a political class that treats them like enemies and people like the original commentator that seem to think they are doing vets a favor by paying their taxes.

    I'm the director of my companies (not my company but the one I work for) NFP org and a lot of the work we do is with vets. My first big undertaking raising money for the Wounded Warriors around 7 or 8 years ago and we were able to pull together a substantial amount of money and resources for a construction project they were undertaking.

    The principals at my company worked closely with the ones over at WW and after a while it was apparent to our board that there was a lot of mismanagement at WW. Because of that, we kinda broke ties and began working directly with individual families and smaller organizations. When I read the news earlier this year about the firings, I was disgusted.

    When we worked with WW, I would only meet the vets but working directly with the families, I met the wives, kids and mothers. I saw that they make just as much as a sacrifice as the vets do and to think there are people out there who would steal from them made me sick. Just last week I was sitting in the living room of a man who was paralyzed from the waist down and watched him cry as he tried to explain to me why he couldn't afford to repair his families HVAC unit. A man who ran into enemy fire to help his wounded friend and had his spine shattered by a snipers bullet cried because he felt ashamed asking for help to keep his family from freezing this winter. I wonder if Dave could have stood in that room with me, looked that man and his family in the eyes and called them "takers".
     
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    You got my thread moved. What did you expect, a thank you for being helpful? :(



    Thanks for your help with veterans. Yes, unfortunately direct help is usually more effective than many of the orgs. It's difficult to have to struggle.
     
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    It was a dick move, sorry.

    Thanks for your service.

    I'll also add, we very rarely have a vet reach out to us directly. It's usually an organization or family member. If there is one thing I've learned, most of them just want what was in the agreement they signed and to be able to HELP rather than be helped.
     
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    If only we were that lucky...no you're not going anywhere....this is how you always operate ...you write some stupid ass snarky comment,with all the thought behind it of a wet fart and then when you get your ass handed to you...you disappear for awhile...nah, like all bad pennies you'll turn up again.
     
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    Stool Sample Cowards like them are the ones who stir up wars for someone else to go pay with their blood all the while would piss their pants the first time anyone gets in their face.
     
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    It's hard to even get some vets to go to the VA. My family had to talk me into going for my health problems. And for benefits, my Dad talked to a friend of his to get a VSO to come to my house and file a claim for me. I was working and doing okay at the time(I thought). And young, lol.

    I have a friend that won't go.
     
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    Yep, the VA system is pathetic. I've been debating filing a claim myself, I have a friend who is an actual VA Advocate and has been nagging me to see him and file a claim. I may, been debating on it for years but the thought of the Bullshit jumps and hoops you have to go through turns me off.
     
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    Nah, we just recognize you for being an ignorant prick.
     
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    Sending this back to where it was, the above shows we can agree to disagree without the major bashings that landed it here, thank you both for your service.
     
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    Edit your title over there or tag me
     
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    Oops


     
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    Haaa joooszer:D
     
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    Good for you guys kicking WWP to the curb like the thieving whores that they are.
    Someone says they work helping them I avoid them and giving my money to that person/company entirely.

    3 "charities" that rank up with go fuck yourself forever with a flaming sideways cactus are.
    The red cross, as a vet I cannot abide these fuckers for what they pulled in ww2 onward. Charging vets but giving aid for free to the enemy. Taking donated blood and selling it for profit, charging relief victims.
    The wounded warrior project, for making a huge haul of cash quarterly and giving less that 3% to vets in need.
    Susan G. Komen. This one may forever fucks be on them.
     
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    My Mrs. wanted to give to the Wounded Warrior Project and I killed that idea on the spot for the reason you just gave.

    On the other hand, do you know of any entities that work for the betterment of wounded veterans where most of the money is used to help and not line the pockets of the fat cats running the operation?
     
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    Yep you have to be very, very careful with these charity's, do you homework and check the amount that is in overhead. One of the only charity's I'll give to is Shriners, less than 1% goes to overhead.

    Susan G. Komen is one of the absolute worst out there, disgusting what they do.

    People shouldn't get rich off of charity.
     
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    @UncleRJ Check out Fisher house or TAPS or AMVETS.
     
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    SGK remember the lids for the cure? Ya that shit was LOADED with sugars, rBGH.. more like lids for cancer.
    Oh the latest that made me want to firebomb the race when I read it, Buckets for the cure at KFC.
    Seriously dietary links to breast cancer shows the diet has a very real affect and causation for breast cancer.. but talk about targeting a demographic that has the highest rate increases of breast cancer and male breast cancer.
     
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    No you are the kind of asshole that holds a door open for someone with a walker or crutches, only to let it go while that person is only halfway through.
    Or the type of scumbag motherfucker that bumps into someone with a walking aide and just keeps going. Or walk in front of them and stop.
    A type of fucker that will take a call in the middle of someplace and just stop, or you and your gaggle of fucking assholes stop and gather like a clot of doucheness in a main walk way blocking it.
    The will only be a minute special cocksucker that blocks a handicap space or the cross hatch area for loading wheel chairs. But your minute is not a minute.
    Bet you stood in line spitting on returning vets calling them baby killers or would have if it would have been in your time frame.
    But still bet you dollars to doughnuts you go out of your way discriminate against a vet or active service every god damned chance you get.
    But nice deflection of basically calling vets that got hurt serving as leeches and welfare goblins, but it very clear you did not have the testicular fortitude, spine or even the heart to serve something bigger than your own self interests.

    Please keep your fucking thanks for our service to your own fucking self, hearing that from a disingenuous scumbag piece of shit is about as insulting as your comment or if you just sacked up and spit in our face.
     
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    That's seriously fucked. I was just recently told I couldn't be part of a dog food co-op because I can't perform volunteer duties of helping to lift and move the boxes. The dipshit actually said that if I can't volunteer, I can't be part of the group. Its terrible but there are a LOT of ignorant people who just love being assholes, they are trolls. You have way more support from within the vet community than not.
     
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    My father was a vet, and my son is a vet, I however am not. Even being a non-vet, I fully respect and appreciate the selfless service that the men and women of our country have given to this great nation. It's very unfortunate that there are people living in this country that do not respect the limbs and lives that so many have sacrificed for ME and many others, including the "scumbag motherfucker" (to quote @BigNasty / and I FULLY AGREE).
     

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