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Number3124

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Yay... Let's crush half a decade's worth of progress and development towards reducing smoking and helping smokers quit their dangerous, life-threatening behavior. Great job Cali.
 

Warhawk-AVG

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I'm sorry but one of these days the good people of CA will quit voting for these jackasses (pun intended)

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
 

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Yay... Let's crush half a decade's worth of progress and development towards reducing smoking and helping smokers quit their dangerous, life-threatening behavior. Great job Cali.
It pisses me off because it's how I quit smoking. I know a few people that want to quit smoking and this is going to turn it into a pain in the ass.


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"The California report called for restrictions on the marketing and sale of e-cigarettes, protections against accidental ingestion of liquid nitrogen and an education campaign on the dangers of using e-cigarettes".

Ummmm.
 

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I read the NBC news version of this article. It's ridiculous. They talk about the Aerosols exhaled and how they will negatively affect those around the vapor. Second hand vapor is now an issue? Fucking ridiculous. As usual, I'd love to know who is paying for all of this.
 

Number3124

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I read the NBC news version of this article. It's ridiculous. They talk about the Aerosols exhaled and how they will negatively affect those around the vapor. Second hand vapor is now an issue? Fucking ridiculous. As usual, I'd love to know who is paying for all of this.

Yeah. No.


Skip to the later part of the video.
 

Jimi

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I read the NBC news version of this article. It's ridiculous. They talk about the Aerosols exhaled and how they will negatively affect those around the vapor. Second hand vapor is now an issue? Fucking ridiculous. As usual, I'd love to know who is paying for all of this.
Yeah I think we all have a good idea of who. I smoked annies for almost 50 years, to the tune of 3 to 4 pks. a day, started vaping steadily about a year ago and after the first wk. I never looked back. Vaping saved what life I have left
 

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After the morons who carry lines of though like that turn their state, into 'Utopia', they realise what they've done, and migrate. Just to start the same ideological crap, in a freer land...they can stay the fock in Cali...
 

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Yeah. No.


Skip to the later part of the video.
I wonder just how many people who conducted this 'study', were monitarily-influenced by the cigarette manufactures..if any. If these idiots, who try to ban a 'thing', be it for 'flavorings appealing to children' ( OK, explain 'gummi' vitamins, marketed to ADULTS...) or for incidental effect on 'those in close proximity' wanted to do GOOD, they'd work on combatting machines that leak petroleum products onto road surfaces, and goes into the water table, as precipitation occurs. (Lack of owner maintenance..) Nearly everytime we get a heavy rain in Springflock, you can see half the colors in the rainbow, going thru the downtown drainage area, known as Jordan 'creek'. Let's see some of these attempted 'do-gooders' police up their own vehicles' leakage, emissions.
 

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It's California , the capital of La La Land . What do you expect . They piss peoples tax money away , wake up from the drunkin haze in the morning then say the state is broke and has no more cash .
 
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I saw the writing on the wall and left in 83. Too bad, was a pretty decent place to live, been all over it from north to south, what a shame ! Seems like every time there's a great place to live, the crazies show up... and stay !!!
 

Warhawk-AVG

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I think it's time...to call it what it really is

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I'm sorry but one of these days the good people of CA will quit voting for these jackasses (pun intended)

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

WE THE PEOPLE!
 

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I'm sorry but one of these days the good people of CA will quit voting for these jackasses (pun intended)

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
Its the same nanny statism seen in other firmly communist states across the country. The USA was a country of robber barons for a long time, and functioned quite well. Only when our rulers started trying to protect the masses did the base freedoms of the individuals start getting taken away, and it only accelerates as time goes on. Freedom is dangerous, period. Anyone who tries to protect us by imposing state punishment for things we were once permitted to do, is simply stealing our ability to choose what is right for us. A huge aspect of socialism is when corporations and govt are inexorably linked, this is a direct result of that.
 

Warhawk-AVG

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Its the same nanny statism seen in other firmly communist states across the country. The USA was a country of robber barons for a long time, and functioned quite well. Only when our rulers started trying to protect the masses did the base freedoms of the individuals start getting taken away, and it only accelerates as time goes on. Freedom is dangerous, period. Anyone who tries to protect us by imposing state punishment for things we were once permitted to do, is simply stealing our ability to choose what is right for us. A huge aspect of socialism is when corporations and govt are inexorably linked, this is a direct result of that.
um...socialism is state run businesses...and Oligarchy is what you are thinking of (which is what our Republic has morphed into)...BOTH of which are very caustic to freedom and what America was founded under...the opportunity to succeed or fail under ones own ability.

I don't understand why you stated the bolded part above
 

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um...socialism is state run businesses...and Oligarchy is what you are thinking of (which is what our Republic has morphed into)...BOTH of which are very caustic to freedom and what America was founded under...the opportunity to succeed or fail under ones own ability.

I don't understand why you stated the bolded part above
You right, I was lumping the two together, which is incorrect. Though, when I think about the largest and most powerful companies, how they will get bailed out if they fail, and how much they determine the legal landscape of the country, It makes me instantly think socialism. If it was how every company was treated, it would be complete socialism, but its only the largest that are afforded these corrupted benefits.

When I say 'freedom is dangerous', its not a negative statement, its a fact of life. Being free to own dangerous things and being accountable for the safety of those around you is a good example. Just because someone down the street shot his wife in the leg, doesnt mean I should no longer have the right to defend my family with the means I see fit. Likewise, if someones baby drinks eliquid, doesnt mean I shouldnt be allowed to vape.
I will take all the dangerous freedom I can get.
 

Warhawk-AVG

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Freedom is just a state of being, the liberty to do what you want unrestricted...now ignorance and doing stupid stuff...that is dangerous :p
 

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Yay... Let's crush half a decade's worth of progress and development towards reducing smoking and helping smokers quit their dangerous, life-threatening behavior. Great job Cali.
How is it society continually leans towards going backwards ,:( its so dishearthening
 

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People can only be rational about things they understand. Since we are in the fringe, most people dont understand what we are doing. Smoking has such an awful stigma, that when someone is seen inhaling and exhaling something that looks like smoke, it must be as dangerous as smoke, and treated as such.
It baffles me that a state like commiefornia, which infringes upon so many freedoms in the name of public safety, would be so against a safer alternative to cigarettes.
 
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MD_Boater

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Don't build anything in California. Every single building product in Home Depot has been found carcinogenic in California, but is apparently safe to use everywhere else.
 

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