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I don't think his supporters believe he's a "conservative" in the traditional sense at all.
of course not ....Trump doesn't even pretend to be a conservative ....he never makes that distiction about himself his enemies do..he's running on issues not on part affiliation that is why he is winniing...nobody trusts the parties....except the Hilary and Jeb supporters.
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When 50% of the population is one the government dole in one fashion or another, there are few conservatives left. A conservative would have a very hard time taking handouts. And certainly would seek a solution to be self sufficient, rather than keep the cycle of handouts rolling.
The huge yawning distinction about the candidates is...there is only one candidate running who is being attacked by every single insitution of the esablishment...attacked by the RNC,DNC,Socialists, Silicon Valley,Chamber of commerce, The lawyers,the goverments of China,Mexico,and the dying socilist regimes of Europe.attacked by the Catholic Church,the Unions,the Universities,the race baiter industry and the jihadists.....and that candidate is Trump...at some point you have to look around and say what is this guy doing that every singel corrupted and evil institution that keeps us enslaved hates him.
This guy owes nobody nothing..he isn't owned like the rest of them...that makes him dangerous to the staus quo...he owes no donor, no party, no political action committees....
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I got no argument there, I agree totally. However the lack of ethics and the greed I mentioned apply
equally to all them sonso'bitches
Yep. And what this really means is voting for a "conservative" is now an exercise in futility.
The only bigshot supporting Trump is the only other guy with cojones, Putin.
they are not in the bussiness of making shoes...they are in the bussiness of making money......you can not legislate "good" you can legislate a way to keep the evil powerless, and that is by taking power away from a corruptble goverment and giving it to the people...power corrupts,absolute power corrupts absolutely....and that is why goverment should have little to no power so even if they are corrupted their evil is impotent, as it is now the evil our goverment does is monumental.
To me, this is a VERY strange world indeed. Even at the time of Ronny Regan, if you were some flim flam commie, they would out cast you, and rightly so. Any other way of looking at our country other than as a REPUBLIC, was evil and a threat of our very own destruction, as it still is today.
It's as if people have lost their fucking minds, and think we can borrow our way to prosperity. Yeah, that works so well right? I mean we can just keep writing checks from our check book even when we have no money
However, Trump talks shit about everyone, INTENTIONALLY, to stir up media coverage.
Remember Rosie O'Donnell? It's all about publicity and NOT about substance.
It's as if people have lost their fucking minds, and think we can borrow our way to prosperity. Yeah, that works so well right? I mean we can just keep writing checks from our check book even when we have no money
No, Cruz is hated as well.
However, Trump talks shit about everyone, INTENTIONALLY, to stir up media coverage.
Remember Rosie O'Donnell? It's all about publicity and NOT about substance.
that's because all the rest of them from Obama and the DNC to Cruz are all banging a big ass War Drum in the Ukraine..
for christsakes Cruz just got endored by Jeb...that's about as establishment as it gets.
I don't have a problem with either one of them and they are both damn sharp people.
Yup, and that's what betrays him as a fascist rather than a true socialist.
LOL...all socialists are facists.
wow where do you get commie from Trump.
DID he support that commie twat Hillary, or not?
No argument from me there. When the gub'min disobeys the law flagrantly
and demonstrates a complete lack of ethics and compassion it serves as example and sets precedent for the rest of the son 'o bitches.
The legislation to keep the evil powerless is in effect but since it's up to the evil in power to enforce the legislation it doesn't get enforced. Talk to the border crossing agents union and ask 'em why they support Trump.
Because the laws aren't being enforced and the same goes for all the laws or Mr Soetoro wouldn't be in power
and would be doing time with Hillary
yea, but I also think it may have something to do with their cojones...
And the apparent relationship between Barry, Isis, and Turkey. Especially Turkey.
Turkey is the place to watch. The Ruskies don't care about Israel.
They won't mess with it. They just want their borders and interests secured.
I think Vlad knows or thinks Donald won't co-op with Turkey.
Cruz et al are completely confused about what's going down in the Ukraine.
Amerika strikes again...
he bought off one of the most sleaziest,corrupted greedy politicans in American history...look at Obama he used the bailouts as a way of promoting theose bussinesses that donated to the DNC and he used the IRS to target and persecute the enemies of the DNC giving money to Hilary is like paying a mafioso so he doesn't come down and break all the windows out of your shop. and she is amazingly vindictive and brutal to anyone that stands in her way and the countryside is littered with corpses of the people who did. they were all shot in the back of the head sixteen times and they were all ruled suicide.Even now after committing crimes anyone else would already be in jail for, she skates she is the meat puppet, the mask of the globalists.I think Trump paid a protection racket, just like he dealt with the mafia in NY whether you like it or not those are the realities of doing bussiness in those places.
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They don't want the west and the bankers in the west stealing their oilfields.
Yea but it works well for Howard.
It remains to see how true his word as he speaks now is
but if it is it certainly seems to resound with a majority of people who aren't necessarily
conservative. He's like the "I'm mad as hell and not going to take it anymore" representative of the people.
I never liked Howard Stern but when I studied broadcasting he was mandatory
the idea that Washington failed the people is based on the theroy that Washington has ever once tried to help the people....a theroy which I find ludicrous...Washington's sole purpose is to enable the global eleite to enslave us through debt and fiat currency, and use our childeren as cannon fodder to expand their incluence.
You can cover your ass in any way you choose.
You can't take back the words that have come from trump's own mouth. You can't take back his positions that he had just before deciding to run for president. You can't take back his LONG standing relationship with Bill and Hillary. You can say it was just business, but he mirrors her positions.
Stern is an entertainer. He is not making laws or deciding to declare war.
Trump is another shock jock, but we are deciding about giving him the power of the nuclear option. We are voting on if we think he is a good choice for the next "leader" of the country.
He acts life a buffoon. That's real "presidential" wouldn't you agree?
that is not true in the least his positions on immigration,amnesty, the TPP trade laws, ISIS,Russia,and lots of other are worlds diffrent from Hilary's...is he a conservative no, but he has never said he was one....so all the metrosexual douchebags with mid-atalnatic accents and Harvard degrees who crash our economy and get us involved in wars around the world are "presidental"..the establishment looks presidental but act like pirates.
will he lie and betray us...very possibly
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That too. But checkout what happened in the Ukraine and who instigated it.
There is no good reason to instigate the Russians but we keep doing it.
You ever see a video of monkeys teasing ..think it was leopards on the net?
When I watched it I thought to myself "one day that big cat's gonna catch a monkey and the game will stop."
and it seems to me that's precisely what Barry is doing when there's no strategic good reason to.
Not everybody wants to play the globalization game. Britain is close to opting out of the EU.
http://www.people.com/article/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-wedding-photo
Because most rich people invite people they don't like to their own weddings.
And of coarse they donate money to their "foundations" and campaigns too.
Because most rich people invite people they don't like to their own weddings.
And of coarse they donate money to their "foundations" and campaigns too.
No, and that's my criticism of Trump. But OTOH though acting more statesmanlike would become him
that he doesn't act like a politician makes his act more believable.
It isn't like we haven't had an actor in the Whitehouse before.
In my humble opinion and as I recently stated in conversation,
in order to run for office in the first place you have to have sold your soul to Beezelbub.
The job calls for being a good BS artist and Trump is probably the best of the given choices.
Who is our other viable choice then, Hillary? Sorry but I know too much about her to even consider her.
You seem to dislike Don...LOL. He's explained all that. It's social bullshit all bigshots engage in.
Look, my wife went to a book signing by Bill Clinton for a client once 'cause the client is bed-ridden.
When Bill autographed the book he shook hands with my wife and kissed her on the cheek.
Somebody took a pix...Get my drift?
My wife said she'd never wash her hands or face again.
We haven't had sex since but that's another story...LOL
None of the choices are viable, that's the point.
What the job calls for, is for someone to do a fucking reality check. We can't support wars, social programs, nation building, and open borders. We also have to look realistically at other issues. LIKE imports. The problem is NOT trade, it's corporate tax rates. It's also dumb ass EPA regulations.
We are not doing ourselves ANY favors by thinking an import tax will fix a damn thing.
And this, is what the haloed Trump is proposing. Tariffs.
This twit has no plan, and his solution is "hiring" smart people. Like Barry hired those nice, smart people to write the Obama care bill.
Yeah, I don't see ANYTHING wrong with Trump. He's viable....
What the job calls for, is for someone to do a fucking reality check. We can't support wars, social programs, nation building, and open borders. We also have to look realistically at other issues. LIKE imports. The problem is NOT trade, it's corporate tax rates. It's also dumb ass EPA regulations.
We are not doing ourselves ANY favors by thinking an import tax will fix a damn thing.
And this, is what the haloed Trump is proposing. Tariffs.
This twit has no plan, and his solution is "hiring" smart people. Like Barry hired those nice, smart people to write the Obama care bill.
Yeah, I don't see ANYTHING wrong with Trump. He's viable....
Exactly, I have all medical procedure done in Ecuador, the prices are a third what they are here...so are prescriptions.
Basically my point also.
I look at the situation this way. Elephant shit is better than donkey shit for yer garden,
and who wants an ass running things?
So true. People here go to Mexico or Cuba, way cheaper and you get to tour
Here is one simple proposal for getting manufacturing job BACK to America.
Lower corporate tax rates and loosen some of those choking EPA laws.
Then pass a law for patents. We will no longer recognize a patent on anything made in another country that does not recognize and enforce our patent laws.
So in other words, if you pull up roots here and go someplace else, like China, you loose your patent. Then any other company that will manufacture the goods in America can then apply for the patent themselves here. We then block and seize any products that break our patent laws.
Import problems solved.
Lower corporate tax rates and loosen some of those choking EPA laws.
Then pass a law for patents. We will no longer recognize a patent on anything made in another country that does not recognize and enforce our patent laws.
So in other words, if you pull up roots here and go someplace else, like China, you loose your patent. Then any other company that will manufacture the goods in America can then apply for the patent themselves here. We then block and seize any products that break our patent laws.
Import problems solved.
when China manipulates it's currency to instigste a trade war it's not realistic to blame it on EPA...if you really want to look at it realisticly the reality is that trade between china and the rest of the world is in no way fair trade and access to markets. to just lay the blame on tax rates and the EPA alone is ludicrous.It totally refuse to face the reality of how China refuses to trade fair....what is at stake is whether or not we will have free autnomous countries or whether we get sold the bill of goods of the manifest destiny of globalization and the New World Order.None of the choices are viable, that's the point.
What the job calls for, is for someone to do a fucking reality check. We can't support wars, social programs, nation building, and open borders. We also have to look realistically at other issues. LIKE imports. The problem is NOT trade, it's corporate tax rates. It's also dumb ass EPA regulations.
We are not doing ourselves ANY favors by thinking an import tax will fix a damn thing.
And this, is what the haloed Trump is proposing. Tariffs.
This twit has no plan, and his solution is "hiring" smart people. Like Barry hired those nice, smart people to write the Obama care bill.
Yeah, I don't see ANYTHING wrong with Trump. He's viable....
good fucking idea.
Dude. I have no argument with your point.None of the choices are viable, that's the point.
What the job calls for, is for someone to do a fucking reality check. We can't support wars, social programs, nation building, and open borders. We also have to look realistically at other issues. LIKE imports. The problem is NOT trade, it's corporate tax rates. It's also dumb ass EPA regulations.
We are not doing ourselves ANY favors by thinking an import tax will fix a damn thing.
And this, is what the haloed Trump is proposing. Tariffs.
This twit has no plan, and his solution is "hiring" smart people. Like Barry hired those nice, smart people to write the Obama care bill.
Yeah, I don't see ANYTHING wrong with Trump. He's viable....
But what are our choices? Trump wants to close the borders, that's a start.
Import tariffs are better than nothing. I've seen video of Donald criticizing the EPA for messing up a couple of rivers, at least he knows it needs fixing.
If you write somebody in they won't get elected.
If you vote for Hillary you haven't been paying attention..She's a security risk and a liar.
It's all bullshit anyway. Whoever Big Brother needs in power will be president no matter what we say.
Let's keep in mind also that if they stage a large enough "Reichstag Fire"
the election may get canceled and martial law declared for the duration.
There are rumors on the net of a possible assassination attempt on the Don.
The nut in Korea might decide to nuke LA...anything can happen
the election may get canceled and martial law declared for the duration.
There are rumors on the net of a possible assassination attempt on the Don.
The nut in Korea might decide to nuke LA...anything can happen
If that were truly the end all of it, why is Trump even getting votes? If they truly have the control, Trump would not have made it this far, right? Or is Trump what I said he was, a commie parading as the savior?
Import tariffs will cause a trade war that everyone will hurt from. It won't fuck with China, because the rest of the world is already buying their shit. It only fucks us, because we won't be able to export to them. It will firstly, destroy the ag industry in America.
You remember eating, right?
but you are not doing yourself a favor when you fail to recognize that neither party is interested in bringing jobs back to America..no administration from either party is going to interfere with the profits of Apple or GE in fact they write law that enables corporations to fuck over the country. and neither party is going to interupt the rape of our nation.
Actually..no. I've been on a fast since lent.
I'm not discussing import tariffs on Chilean produce
I'm proposing import tariffs on goods manufactured in Mexico and/or China
by companies based in the USA. The tax haven is what makes them take their plants abroad.
Even though the rest of the world buys from China the Chinese, as I can attest to
by checking my email, cater to the US market.
Money is the controlling factor, which is one of the points Trump makes.
He has so much of it that he can afford to run and buck the establishment system.
But again, freemind. We have to pick the lesser of two evils.
I can't vouch for Trump personally and admit he's an arrogant uncouth arse
but he talks the talk and walks the walk..the US is a business entity and he's one of the best businessman.
I swear there's a book by that title.
I just finished reading a bunch of stuff by Judge Andrew Napolitano. Great reading if you're
into the constitution
fuck the agindustry talk about a bunch of welfare queens..
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