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Arthur

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Dude your crazy if you dont think that happened ! I saw the towers fall from my office .i heard on the radio and news that day there were celebrations. Your the propaganda kool aid drinker wake up ! Never forget what happened that day .how many people were lost .people jumping to their deaths! Tell me about propaganda !

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Oh c'mon.... Everytime he did something particularly doofy, couldn't you just SEE Barbara Bush shaking her head and taking another slug of bourbon? :D I always liked that woman, and really sympathize with her, for her less-than-stellar children and cold-fish husband. :D I really wish SHE would run for prez. :D

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The Bush family has always done there best work in the shadows...daddy was head of the CIA, the Bush family is more than happy to let people dismiss them as ineffectual fools, but behind the scens they are the puppet masters.
 

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Considering Sanders and Cruz are the only true outsiders left in the race.... And I wont vote for a socialist. That only leaves Cruz.....

Trump and Clinton are the ULTIMATE insiders and part of the corruption. One being the politician taking bribes, and the other the corrupt citizen paying the bribes.
But when It come down to it, when I vote it will likely be for the lesser of the evils. I only know it won't be Bernie or Hillary. I will vote for whoever has the best chance of winning that is NOT named Clinton or a socialist.
 

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Dude your crazy if you dont think that happened ! I saw the towers fall from my office .i heard on the radio and news that day there were celebrations. Your the propaganda kool aid drinker wake up ! Never forget what happened that day .how many people were lost .people jumping to their deaths! Tell me about propaganda !

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Nice Trump segue....we all know you're obviously voting for that tool.....prove it though, seriously :)

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Dude your crazy if you dont think that happened ! I saw the towers fall from my office .i heard on the radio and news that day there were celebrations. Your the propaganda kool aid drinker wake up ! Never forget what happened that day .how many people were lost .people jumping to their deaths! Tell me about propaganda !

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My uncle died in the towers you tool....so yes I know loss and tragedy....do I believe part of our state who helped with the massive cleanup over there were in the streets applauding and shit like that? You have lost your mind....

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I am dissapointed with everyone on the ballot this election year. I just can't believe the Republicans unleashed a 3rd rate reality show host as their party leader....pretty damn sad. The Republicans really need to rethink their choices on candidates. As for the Democrats I don't really care for either Hillary or Bernie. I will not be voting this year at all....just a shameful bunch of figureheads.

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I can't believe the DNC is running a senile old fool in adult diapers who hasn't got the memo yet that The Soviet experment in collectivisim went down in flame that the Maoists are up to their maosuits in capitalisim,the democratic socilaists in europe are collapsing...a fool that persists in shilling a bankrupt and threadbare economic philosiphy that even the third world has discarded as retro....or a woman who makes Dracula look like a pussy...a woman so corrupt so evil, so power mad that she would rape, murder, steal,lie or betray any and all to fullfill her sociopathic lusts.
 

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And great job smokie for posting politics in a vaping forum.....and you really think people are going to be cordial on this subject....seriously? Lol

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I can't believe the DNC is running a senile old fool in adult diapers who hasn't got the memo yet that The Soviet experment in collectivisim went down in flame that the Maoists are up to their maosuits in capitalisim,the democratic socilaists in europe are collapsing...a fool that persists in shilling a bankrupt and threadbare economic philosiphy that even the third world has discarded as retro....or a woman who makes Dracula look like a pussy...a woman so corrupt so evil, so power mad that she would rape, murder, steal,lie or betray any and all to fullfill her sociopathic lusts.
I'm pretty sure I mentioned I wouldn't be voting for anyone this election. Let's put that on the table....

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pulsevape

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Considering Sanders and Cruz are the only true outsiders left in the race.... And I wont vote for a socialist. That only leaves Cruz.....

Trump and Clinton are the ULTIMATE insiders and part of the corruption. One being the politician taking bribes, and the other the corrupt citizen paying the bribes.
But when It come down to it, when I vote it will likely be for the lesser of the evils. I only know it won't be Bernie or Hillary. I will vote for whoever has the best chance of winning that is NOT named Clinton or a socialist.
Cruz is no outsider he just kissed the ring of Jeb and got his endosement ...it doesn't come anymore of insider than that..his wife works for goldman sachs, she was on the council for foriegn relation,and his staff is full of old Bush operatives.....
 

Arthur

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Wha? Appaluding what? Your obviously from Jersey and im sorry for the loss of your uncle .So you know what i say is true .Why do you feel you need proof people in NJ celebrated? You dont think a porton of New Jersey muslims were happy it happened? Im not for trump but at least i will vote and make my voice heard unlike you .

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CTFX

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Wha? Appaluding what? Your obviously from Jersey and im sorry for the loss of your uncle .So you know what i say is true .Why do you feel you need proof people in NJ celebrated? You dont think a porton of New Jersey muslims were happy it happened? Im not for trump but at least i will vote and make my voice heard unlike you .

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Well enjoy your conspiracy theories bud...I for one will not indulge bullshit smears that come from a horse's ass

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pulsevape

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And great job smokie for posting politics in a vaping forum.....and you really think people are going to be cordial on this subject....seriously? Lol

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I don't know how many vaping forums you belong to, but almost all of them have alot of threads and sub forums devoted to lots of things other than vaping.
 

Arthur

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Ok all the best too you .Ill pray for your father .

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CTFX

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I don't know how many vaping forums you belong to, but almost all of them have alot of threads and sub forums devoted to lots of things other than vaping.
I belong to 2 of them...one of them being blatantly clear on a no politics rule...which I think is completely fair. This is just crap...I spoke my mind and said I wouldn't be voting, and all of you are just going deep into conspiracies....so how is this productive?

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pulsevape

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Well enjoy your conspiracy theories bud...I for one will not indulge bullshit smears that come from a horse's ass

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Only somebody who is absolutely ignorant of world history thinks conspiracys don't exist..real power has almost always operated in the shadows.....you can't hit what you can't see.
 

CTFX

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Trumpisms^

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Ok all the best too you .Ill pray for your father .

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Thanks

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CTFX

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Ok all the best too you .Ill pray for your father .

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I really hope that was sincere

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Arthur

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It was CTFX i can disagree with you but i have parents too that i love like im sure you love your dad . You have my prayers for him .

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pulsevape

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Trumpisms^

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Wow brilliant retort...really well thought out and backed up with a profound knowledge of politics and history..tell me what is your real expertise in smearing people with buzzwords or is graffiti more your line.
 

CTFX

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It was CTFX i can disagree with you but i have parents too that i love like im sure you love your dad . You have my prayers for him .

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Thank you very much. Stage 4 cancer is vicious....and everyday just seems to get worse...so I do appreciate the prayers and we'll wishes. Yes we may all disagree to the extreme., but in the end were all humans.

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CTFX

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Wow brilliant retort...really well thought out and backed up with a profound knowledge of politics and history..tell me what is your real expertise in smearing people with buzzwords or is graffiti more your line.
Yawn? I'm not voting for anyone. That is all :)

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pulsevape

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I belong to 2 of them...one of them being blatantly clear on a no politics rule...which I think is completely fair. This is just crap...I spoke my mind and said I wouldn't be voting, and all of you are just going deep into conspiracies....so how is this productive?

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just 2?...well so that means half the forums you belong to actually do have a space for people to discuss things other than vaping.and they have a space for people to discuss politics and world events.
 

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just 2?...well so that means half the forums you belong to actually do have a space for people to discuss things other than vaping.and they have a space for people to discuss politics and world events.
Enjoy it guy.

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pulsevape

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Yawn? I'm not voting for anyone. That is all :)

Prayers are still needed for my dad!
So you enter into a thread were people are discussing politics and then you admitt you have little knowledge on the subject less interest and don't intend to vote, and that further discussion is pointless...I fail to see why you post here then.
 

Arthur

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Im so sorry to hear that .stay strong for your family

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So you enter into a thread were people are discussing politics and then you admitt you have little knowledge on the subject less interest and don't intend to vote, and that further discussion is pointless...I fail to see why you post here then.
I never said I had little knowledge...smokie wanted to know so we were voting for....I posted I wasn't voting for anyone....I have reasons for not liking the candidates. Just like you do. Do I think everything involved is a consliracy? No I don't.

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HondaDavidson

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Cruz is no outsider he just kissed the ring of Jeb and got his endosement ...it doesn't come anymore of insider than that..his wife works for goldman sachs, she was on the council for foriegn relation,and his staff is full of old Bush operatives.....

Endorsment don't determine or even reflect the candidate. KKK endorsing Trump doesn't make him a racist. Same goes for Bush endorsment of anyone. The Bushes are endorsing the most likely R, not named Trump. There is no more to it than that. OH and most or the Donald's advisors are also ex-Bush people with some Clinton and Obama people along for the ride. Polotics is full of inbred freeks. Everybody worked for everybody at one point or another. Cruz worked for G. Bush as both Governer and President I believe..
You don't get to be the MOST HATED man in the senate by being part of the establishment. You get that honor by being a threat to the status quo. Clinton, Kaisich and Trump represent the status quo. In case we forget the same people who hate Cruz are the ones that hated Regan and brought us the Bushes and Clintons. Also Romney and Mccain for that matter. Facebook and the 5 second attention span of the world today gave us Obama.
 

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You Cruz supporters fail to mention whereas Trump said he had no desire for the support of the KKK, Cruz has not renounced the support of the single largest estblishment candidate....
 

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It was CTFX i can disagree with you but i have parents too that i love like im sure you love your dad . You have my prayers for him .

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It was nice chatting with you besides the politics man. Take care man. I'm unsubscribing to this thread. I don't see it turning out the way it was supposed to be intended.

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Arthur

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I think he knew it was true cause he is from Jersey . But there are some that wont belive what they dont want to belive even if its right in front of them ...forgetaboutit

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Endorsment don't determine or even reflect the candidate. KKK endorsing Trump doesn't make him a racist. Same goes for Bush endorsment of anyone. The Bushes are endorsing the most likely R, not named Trump. There is no more to it than that. OH and most or the Donald's advisors are also ex-Bush people with some Clinton and Obama people along for the ride. Polotics is full of inbred freeks. Everybody worked for everybody at one point or another. Cruz worked for G. Bush as both Governer and President I believe..
You don't get to be the MOST HATED man in the senate by being part of the establishment. You get that honor by being a threat to the status quo. Clinton, Kaisich and Trump represent the status quo. In case we forget the same people who hate Cruz are the ones that hated Regan and brought us the Bushes and Clintons. Also Romney and Mccain for that matter. Facebook and the 5 second attention span of the world today gave us Obama.

I have not seen any #nevercruz superpacs. Cruz has spent his entire adult life collecting a government check. Calling him an outsider is a massive stretch.

And if donating to a campaign, or several, makes one an insider I need my elite VIP card.
 
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pulsevape

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I think he knew it was true cause he is from Jersey . But there are some that wont belive what they dont want to belive even if its right in front of them ...forgetaboutit

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He can't admitt it's true.because then he'd be forced to admitt that Trump has a point, he'd have to admitt that the massive immigration of muslims 650thousand in the last 5 years maybe was a dumb idea especailly after Brussels....and every candidate from the DNC wants to increase the numbers....despite the fact most of europe has realized what a monumental mistake it has been and is starting to close the borders all over europe....
 

Arthur

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Dumb idea is a understatment ! Why are all these refugees young men ?why dont they fight for their home ? There are kurdish women fighting isis who cant see this is a Trojan horse! Germans cant even leave the house for christ sake .

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Since I'm still getting fucking alerts cause you're quoting me! That article proved absolutely nothing of the sort. Please find some better material on this supposed witch hunt....good luck!

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And great job smokie for posting politics in a vaping forum.....and you really think people are going to be cordial on this subject....seriously? Lol

Prayers are still needed for my dad!

We were doing pretty well... till now.

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Arthur

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I think it was cordial ...just different perspectives of reality

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Time

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Right at the end there when God put His 2 cents in..
What!? No talk of the Prophecies Fatima?

Eh, maybe he wanted to counter Glenn Beck saying his God told him Cruz is the Savior and Cruz's dad saying Cruz is Anointed to be King.

Dunno, but it's getting weird.
 

HazyShades

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Eh, maybe he wanted to counter Glenn Beck saying his God told him Cruz is the Savior and Cruz's dad saying Cruz is Anointed to be King.

Dunno, but it's getting weird.
It's been weird all along and getting stranger by the minute.

What happens when the elections get canceled...
I liked when Cruz filibustered reading Dr Zeuss but I read the constitution
and neither he or Rubio can be president any more than Mr Soetoro can.

Now, I know a SOB (and I'm leaving an adjective out 'cause it might be misinterpreted)
when I see one and most of the major sonsobitches I've ever met
wore a big ole cross for all to see.
I'm looking to elect a president not a Messiah..He will come on His own
 

Time

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Import tariffs will cause a trade war that everyone will hurt from. It won't fuck with China, because the rest of the world is already buying their shit. It only fucks us, because we won't be able to export to them. It will firstly, destroy the ag industry in America.

I hate to bring up an old post but current events prove how misguided you are.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-31/china-unveils-trumpian-tariffs-all-foreign-goods

"While Trumpian tariffs are dismissed as crazy talk by America's establishment, it seems China took first-mover advantage to boost "Made-in-China" products at the expense of the rest of the world."

"Free Trade" is not the same as "Fair Trade". When only one side is promoting "free" trade and the other side is debasing their currency and taxing imports, arguing that "free" trade is good for the country is ridiculous. China had started the "trade war" long ago. Being to stupid to know we already were in a trade war, the US has done nothing about it. At the very least, Trump is the only candidate that has known we are already in a trade war.
 

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There is a big ass drum being banged for globalization...which is nothing more than the globalist moving their factories to China and using China as one big ass cesspool of slave labor and enviromental dumping ground to bleed the wealth out of the rest of the world.
150 years ago the same kind of robber barons banged a big ass drum for something called Manifest Destiny the result was a Civil War to strip the states of their constitutional rights and consolidate all power under the federal goverment using the ruse of abolitionisim, and then an all out war on the westeren american Indian tribes to steal their homelands and extend the federal goverments power over those lands which in turn were handed over to the railroads and the robber barons. a massive immigration policy which was not the result of a mandate from the voters,but a top down agenda of industrialists and european bankers. a huge part of the mines,ranches,and timber companies of the West that was opened up were owned by european elite. the massive flood of immigration drove down the masses access to upward mobility and wages. as Russell Means a spokesman for the American Indain Movement has said...We are all living on the Reservarion now....I'm sorry but the false promises and bullshit hype of the global economy is just a little to reminiscent of the whole maifest destiny scam, and since the elite own every institution of the culture and economy any dissent againt the agenda of the elite will be crushed ,humiliated,disenfranchised, suppresed,slandered...and if neccesarry as in the case of JFK assassinated.
Free Trade is one giant fucking lie..and just as the so called republicans sold America the lie of "What's good for General Motors is good for America" and the so called liberals sell us the whole "World Village" bullshit...they are, both sides..just tools for the elite to push the same agenda....it always amazes me that the same idiots who distrust the international corporations fali to admitt that say...amnesty and the de facto amnesty of tens of millions of people into the US is supported and funded by...not the voters of America but by the corporations, the Ford foundation, the Rockerfellers, the council on forgien relations, the chamber oc commerce,Mark Zuckenfacist, google....not by the people.
 

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What amazes me most, and I'll use a personal experience example, is the complete batshit crazy stupidity of people. So, maybe someone can explain this to me.

I grew up in a Union family, thus Democrat. As a young boy and up to early adult, the barn talk(large extended horse family, we always would hang out in the barn and bullshit while working) was often political. My Union Democrat Dad, Grandfather, Uncles and cousins would bitch about illegal immigrants. The Republicans won't do anything about them because most farmers are Repubs and they like the cheap labor, they'd say. And it was true. The R's did not want immigration reform and we still don't have it. All Union Dems complained about the lost jobs, lower wages.

Most of those people are still alive. They have kids that have to compete with immigrants and it isn't working out. How the hell did they switch from a anti-immigration party to a pro-immigration party? To be fair, my Dad saw the light and left the party. But, most have not. How the hell do you forget what you believed 25 years ago especially when what you feared would happen came to be? They are still Dims and now the pro-immigration party.

I have other examples too, like trade, but the immigration one is plain and simple.

I understand the big view as above, but I have never been able to wrap my head around these individual issues. How can otherwise decent people be so batshit crazy? They can't have forgotten the issues then, the problem is the same. I don't see how it's possible to get people to see the big picture when they can't even see that they are now supporting the very thing they knew, years ago, was going to hurt them. What they thought would happen, did happen. And now they are cool with it.

That is a part of the human experience I don't get. I'm fucking baffled.
 

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There is a big ass drum being banged for globalization...which is nothing more than the globalist moving their factories to China and using China as one big ass cesspool of slave labor and enviromental dumping ground to bleed the wealth out of the rest of the world.
I disagree with this. Globalization has done much to lift hundreds of millions (and perhaps more than a billion) people world-wide out of abject poverty. However, it has done so at the expense of living standards in the west, particularly the US, and to a lesser extent, western Europe. We've exported much capital in exchange for consumable goods and hidden the effects by taking on a boatload of debt. It was dumb thing to do and it will not end well.
 
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