trouble making a good juice...

BigNasty · Feb 13, 2015

Jgoss said:
I use essential depot products by the gallon. The VG is very clean, sweet, and neutral. The PG seems good too, but I don't use it except to make sweeteners so i'm not the best judge of it. They also have a great price. It's hard to beat 2 gallons for 50$ with free shipping.

Ya but do they do two vg gallons for the same price?

AmandaD · Feb 13, 2015

I recently ran out of my gallon of VG before my gallon of PG, so I found some on Amazon. A liter for $13 shipped (Prime).

Jgoss · Feb 14, 2015

BigNasty said:
Ya but do they do two vg gallons for the same price?

http://www.essentialdepot.com/product/GLYCERIN-VEG-2.html I looked it up for you, I didn't want you to strain your fingers with all that google.

BigNasty · Feb 14, 2015

Jgoss said:
http://www.essentialdepot.com/product/GLYCERIN-VEG-2.html I looked it up for you, I didn't want you to strain your fingers with all that google.

Dude I was half asleep and trying to keep my head off the kb from the allergy meds nods.

RocketPuppy · Feb 15, 2015

Huckleberried said:
Seriously, you can't keep a bottle of water at your desk? Well, how much does that suck? I'll come out there and give them a piece of my mind! I will.

I can keep as much water at my desk as I want. I just can't leave the room to use the restroom during class. You're funny Huck

MD_Boater · Feb 16, 2015

Cheekiecharlie said:
MD_Boater said:

Most single fruit flavors by themselves do not need steeping. They may change a little, but they taste pretty much what they are going to taste like forever right after a shake.

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I'd strongly disagree with you on that one mate

Some juices are, as you say ready straight away, many do need a steep, particularly tobacco and bakery type flavours

Just ask any vanilla custard fan

I have a toffee I mix that gets between 2-4 months steep, it becomes much richer with a steep

Many juices will give a chemical or floral taste if they haven't had time for the flavour molecules to infuse properly

But each to their own, whatever works for any individual is right

There was a small omission in my post. Maybe it will be more to your liking now. You are correct. Just about everything with cream, or more than 2 ingredients, will require some steeping for the flavors to blend properly.

Cheekiecharlie said:
particularly tobacco and bakery type flavours

Yes, pretty much all of those.

Cheekiecharlie said:
Just ask any vanilla custard fan

Capella's VC is vapable right after mixing, but it does continue to get better with age.

Apologies to the OP for my previously incomplete comment...

SmokingisDead · Feb 19, 2015

Most juices that I have made are 16% flavoring. I would highly recommend lowering your flavor percentages. Also with TFA flavors they are alcohol based flavorings, so it does take a little bit of steeping time to get the full flavor. I know it's hard to wait for them to steep but if you do they taste a lot smoother and richer.

Diesel1124 · Feb 25, 2015

Ok so i have some ?'s. I just made my first batch and im not impressed. The juice is very harsh and the flavor is not there can anybody tell me what i did wrong. I used the e juice me up calc with all the propor inputs. This is based off testing the juice after shaking, letting breath for 3 hours and steep over night. Do i need to let it steep longer??
Nic- 75mg/ml @4mg strength
Pg- nicvape pg @30 %
Vg- nicvape vg @70 %
Flavor- nicvape real watermelon @10 %

Huckleberried · Feb 25, 2015

Can't help ya with nicvape, but @Smoky Blue can. The watermelon might be a bit high. She'll know.

AmandaD · Feb 25, 2015

Huckleberried said:
Can't help ya with nicvape, but @Smoky Blue can. The watermelon might be a bit high. She'll know.

@wllmc reviewed it in the nicvape thread. I think he used it at 6% but said it was light and you could go higher (the range he gave was 6-10%).

CloudyToday · Feb 25, 2015

Diesel1124 said:
Ok so i have some ?'s. I just made my first batch and im not impressed. The juice is very harsh and the flavor is not there can anybody tell me what i did wrong. I used the e juice me up calc with all the propor inputs. This is based off testing the juice after shaking, letting breath for 3 hours and steep over night. Do i need to let it steep longer??
Nic- 75mg/ml @4mg strength
Pg- nicvape pg @30 %
Vg- nicvape vg @70 %
Flavor- nicvape real watermelon @10 %

Hi diesel

I had alot of problems starting out as well, but I bought some flavors from recipes in the DIY thread, and that started to help me understand how the flavors work. Maybe this will help, although I don't see nicvape on the list, but it's good reference anyway (best viewed with google): https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr..._hQ6Fu8HdEwwR2dLRUJlVjlabEN1NG1ucktuUVE&gid=0

Edit: you can always call the company and ask them what % of dilution ratio they recommend for their product

Smoky Blue · Feb 25, 2015

Diesel1124 said:
Ok so i have some ?'s. I just made my first batch and im not impressed. The juice is very harsh and the flavor is not there can anybody tell me what i did wrong. I used the e juice me up calc with all the propor inputs. This is based off testing the juice after shaking, letting breath for 3 hours and steep over night. Do i need to let it steep longer??
Nic- 75mg/ml @4mg strength
Pg- nicvape pg @30 %
Vg- nicvape vg @70 %
Flavor- nicvape real watermelon @10 %

drop that percentage to 5% and then work up..

Diesel1124 · Feb 25, 2015

Ty for the advice, i called nic vape and the recomend 10% so i batched one up at 5% lol. Im going to let this batch sit for a bit and see what happens, meanwhile i bought some TFA flavors im going to try as i have herd some bad things about nicvape flavors. Hows TFA stuff???

Smoky Blue · Feb 25, 2015

Diesel1124 said:
Ty for the advice, i called nic vape and the recomend 10% so i batched one up at 5% lol. Im going to let this batch sit for a bit and see what happens, meanwhile i bought some TFA flavors im going to try as i have herd some bad things about nicvape flavors. Hows TFA stuff???

all juice companies have both good and bad flavors..
it's up to the end taster to make those calls.

CloudyToday · Feb 25, 2015

Diesel1124 said:
Ty for the advice, i called nic vape and the recomend 10% so i batched one up at 5% lol. Im going to let this batch sit for a bit and see what happens, meanwhile i bought some TFA flavors im going to try as i have herd some bad things about nicvape flavors. Hows TFA stuff???

i'm finding i like the flavour art stuff, but there are some good ones in TFA too, do you know what you want to create? I went all crazy at first as i'm sure most new diy'ers do , I wish i had found this forum first....so if you can learn from my mistake, find a recipe in the diy recipe thread and order those flavors to start with

I'm no expert, just sharing what has been shared with me and what I've found
Couple places to order sample flavors from:
http://www.eliquidmart.com/flavourart-flavors/
http://www.wizardlabs.com/

Smoky Blue · Feb 25, 2015

don't forget: http://www.ecigexpress.com
The guys there are super nice!

Time · Feb 25, 2015

I mixed NV Real Watermelon @ 10%. It was okay but light on flavor for me. Watermelon, to me, is a light flavor naturally. My next batch I think I'll try 12% to see if it starts to get chemical tasting. I liked the flavor at 10%, it was just a bit light.

miltiades · Feb 26, 2015

If you get chemical tasting. Let the bottle with the cap off overnight and try again.

Jacob1264 · Mar 1, 2015

To get a nice peach flavor using TFA I add mix "Peach Flavor" for a warm fume-like body and "Juicy Peach" for a nice sweet juicy flavor similar to peach Snapple.

Here's what I would use for a juice with a total of 16% flavors

5% Peach (Juicy) Flavor - TFA
3% Peach Flavor - TFA

trouble making a good juice...

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