Van & Del Design - Soul S Vs. Jazz Vs. Poet Triple RDA Review by KingPin!

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  1. KingPin!

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    Hi Folks,

    Vanja Bonic (Van) & Sasa Barac (Del) have been about since the dawn of mainstream vaping, both hobbyists turned modders gracing us with numerous products over the years;
    • Mini & Maxi Genesis
    • Line Genesis
    • Line v2 Genesis
    • Silver Dog
    • Silver Dog cross breed
    • Silver Dog V2
    • Silver Fox
    • Line LE
    • Soul / Soulless RTA
    • Soul S RDA
    • Jazz RDA
    • Poet RSA
    In addition there’s the juice line, the forum they ran (vaporwall) which later turned it into an online shop…to say they have their hands in a few pies in an understatement…the experience between them is vast, and unlike a lot of modders who have grown in the same period, they keep their sights on sourcing materials from Europe and America, engage their support base daily, seek input from their facebook group, accept criticism, and if there’s any sort of problem they’ll sort it out…for me they embody what it takes to survive the long haul in this business.

    So I guess if I’m going to support a business; who better than two craggy old modders who love what they do, and still have the energy and enthusiasm to deliver the goods….and on that note everything in this review was purchased myself…I’ll be covering the Soul S RDA, Jazz RDA and Poet RDA.

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    The Souls S and Poet, I Purchased from Van and Del directly from

    http://www.vaporwall.com/

    The Jazz RDA and all accessories for these products I purchased from Alex at Cheeky Vape (an authorised vendor for Van & Del)…I’ve used Alex’s shop a lot, he tends to get stuff other shops don’t in the UK, or at least put’s on some cracking deals where he can. I’ve always found his customer service top notch and delivery fast.

    https://cheekyvape.com/

    Without further ado…..I don’t like to make recommendations in my reviews, instead I present you with my findings to help bolster your research should you be interested in the products.


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    Specification Overview

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    About These Products

    If you step back to 2016 the Soul and Soulless RTAs were launched (different size tanks denoted which one was which)…this is where you’ll find the introduction of their signature post system carried forward to the Soul S and Jazz RDA's….in fact even the Poet uses the same post distancing of the other two, it just misses the middle screw.

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    It was this post system that first drew me to their products, in that it offers builders so much utility. You can run two coil side by side, parallel wrap, run a larger single coil, fit in exotics, or even go for a simple round wire…they cater for it all. After that you don’t even need to snip the leads, as the screw fastens down into the recess it pops the leg up and you can simply move the wire side to side to snap it off ……it’s for these reasons out of all the RDA’s I’ve used to date this deck is by far my favourite to build on, which is no small feat as I’m a picky sod at the best of times.

    The Soul S is supposedly a mash up of the Nipple and Pancake RDA’s according to Flavour Chasers, perhaps slightly with its minimalist looks on the outside, but I don’t think so, not really, the natural progression I see is from their RTA I mentioned earlier. It’s made from virgin 304 and 316 stainless steel (i.e. not recycled), has Ketron peek insulators, with a white Delrin drip tip, all spares and parts are sourced locally in Europe or USA. Every single one was made in house by Van and Del themselves and is left with a brushed machine finish.

    The Jazz took elements of the Souls S but they re-designed the airflow completely, changed the top cap both inside and out, they also introduced a different form of drip tip, finally this RDA saw the introduction of a type of finish rarely seen…heavy sandblasted. Being both of these modders are meticulous when it comes to high end finishing, and serious about the safety of their staff, they chose a more expensive sandblasting option by ensuring the sand had less than 1% silica in it (have a read up of silicosis). They went with a company that were using the same sand on titanium biomedical implants…I have to say; the effort they went to left the Jazz RDA looking like some sort of volcanic stone…it’s just bloody stunning!.

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    Later they offered a finer sand finish, or a ceramic finish for that velvet look. It’s worth noting with the original sandblasted finish I have pictured throughout it will darken over time after use, this is expected and normal.

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    The same materials were used as the Soul S and Poet, in addition the grub screws are inter-changeable between the three of them.

    Towards the end of 2018 Sasa announced they were going to have to outsource production…not to china, but somewhere down the road from them in Croatia. They didn’t have the capital to invest the millions needs for new machinery, and with their popularity surging it was impossible to keep up in house. Doing so has it’s positives; they could be more competitive in price per unit, which is important to the challenging conditions of the market today, it also means they can scale up, bring out more projects, and finally rather than hand machining they say the quality will be superior (which I have to say was bloody awesome to begin with!) The downside is …they can’t be as flexible with demand through peaks and troughs because they have to place orders in bulk, so waiting lists are a natural result. In addition the warranty period has been reduced to 1 year…I don’t have a problem with it, they are staying true to their vision as best they can in challenging times.

    So with the changes made to production, we saw the RDA that Van & Del are finishing with…yep the Poet is apparently their last squonking atty before they try new things (I’m really hoping it isn’t)… but if this truly is their last squonking RDA ….they are going out with a bang with an ode to Edgar Allan Poe. It has engravings encircling the drip tip “Quoth The Raven Nevermore”…it really is their finest piece to date, sporting the same materials and grub screws seen previously, the machining is spotless even under macro lens.

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    The Poet is a big shift from it's RDA predecessors, introducing a more restricted draw (which is dependent on different peek inserts), is limited to single sided entry, and considering its smaller size; is the more forgivable squonker of the bunch. It comes in two finishes at the moment; machine and ceramic (after much deliberation I went with ceramic), but it’s worth noting the deck comes ceramic blasted whatever option you choose. The box is supplied by Marko from Visionary Mods, and is made to look the style of a Poets book, as I said the whole experience receiving and opening this RDA was superb….this isn’t just good, it’s pretty epic.

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    At the time of writing this review I was unable to purchase extras for the Poet, they had a bit of a nightmare with Ultem coming in late for the first batch…eventually they will be releasing different top caps, so I’ll just wait for cheeky vapes to get them and pick one up from there.

    When it comes to options for the others; Van and Del released Plexiglas top airflow caps which I really enjoy, I found them to improve squonking and enhance flavour further…my review though is going to be about the stock kit first and foremost, but if you have any questions let me know below and ill reply with regards to my experiences with the extras.

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    Impressions, Build Quality & Assembly

    Starting with the overall look …in my humble opinion they are all bloody nice, so to be honest I refuse to pick one out as my favourite, I like them all equally in their own ways, instead I’d say if I could somehow mash them together I’d take the shape and tip of the Soul S, finish of the Jazz and Engraving of the Poet, that would be it…me done, pack up, stand back, smile and enjoy the masterpiece….see even the three of them like the sound of it!

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    Van and Del haven’t left much room for people like me to pick holes in these, they take a year to go from idea on paper to launch, so when they do come out, they are pretty spot on from the get go. When it comes to the finish….let’s just say the Soul S and Jazz were hand lathed by virgins ….or was that the steel they used? It doesn’t matter, the point is these are high end products, and it shows across them all with tooling tolerances of just 0.05mm+/-, everything fits together flush, there’s no screw wobble, peek inserts fit like a glove, drip tips fit lovely, pins protrude perfectly, and everything can be striped and cleaned easily.

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    If I really had to nit-pick it would only be upon disassembly, there was a couple of moulding snags left on the peek insulators for the Soul S, and I could see several darker spots left on the Poet deck (you might see them in my pictures). I asked Sasa what these spots were, he said it’s just where the ceramic blasting hadn’t completely faded the machining marks away. The peek situation was easily remedied, but I won’t be able to do much with the Poet’s deck which is unfortunate, I’d rather they weren’t there at all in all honesty, but I’m not sure how hard they can go on the deck with the blasting process.

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    Really though, outside of these things the workmanship is very good…it’s hard not to be impressed opening the box (at least I was), the other two RDA’s have a couple of spots here and there under macro lens, but nothing really noteworthy. I would say owning all three the finishing has improved as they’ve progressed.

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    The Soul S is the only one with a visible lip for the top cap to sit on, both the Jazz and Poet have the cap sitting flush with the base of the deck - I haven’t had any issues with a leaking getting under the base outside of over squonking, so all score well in this area. I found the O-Rings are a little stiff to start with (even more so with the latter two), however they do break in nicely over time.

    Spares and what’s included….all of them come with plenty of screws and O-rings so I have no complaints here, the grub screws are very good, I’m still running the original set (bear in mind here I’ve had the jazz four months already) and they are good as the day I opened the package…I’ve not been particularly easy on them either mounting loads of builds. In terms of the other spare areas; I’ll cover that in more detail below, suffice to say the Soul S comes out on top followed by the Poet then the Jazz.

    Squonking – If you’ve ever used the Hadaly you will know what you’re getting into using the Soul S, they are very similar in that you cannot be too heavy handed. The Jazz was supposed to fix this with the promise of a slightly deeper juice well, but I’m not sold on that, personally I think it’s still similar to the Soul S. I have tried folding the wicks under the coil but it makes little difference. It’s just a case of getting used to re-priming after each pull, and sticking with a quarter squeeze on the bottle. If this is something that puts you off, then there are the top airflow caps they sell. If you happen to get the Poet, you get a forgiving squonk as standard. All of the RDA’s have the same raised mounted area the pin sits in, the RDA’s drain liquid away well but not entirely as a result.

    I haven’t dripped on any of them, in fact the Poet doesn’t actually come with a dripping pin! Such is the designers desire to market these as squonking RDA’s (or as some say RSA’s) . Not sure how I feel about all that…whilst I wouldn’t choose to drip, it’s nice to know it’s there as an option should I want to flavour test. I’m going to have to list this as a con, it’s an inexpensive part so maybe stick an extra euro on the price or something….if you own the other two though; the pins are interchangeable just as the grub screws are.

    Drip tips – both the Soul S and Poet have drip tips that suit them really well, lovely height and bores. Even though the Poets tip is metal, heat transfer isn’t too bad at all, but then I never go above 30W using it. My biggest con with the Jazz is the proprietary tip it comes with…in my opinion the 510 adaptor they sell as aftermarket option should come with it as standard, it’s the same argument above…just add an extra few euro’s on. I don’t mind extras in terms of quality top caps, but adaptors not so much, as a result it’s my least favourite of the three in this particular paragraph.


    Every single one of them has a flat chamber ceiling despite their outward appearance, well almost; the Soul S has a ring area below the drip tip that protrudes down which I think helps alleviate condensation build up, this aspect is more noticeable on the Jazz so it must be doing something….also the outer edges of the Soul’s ceiling are slightly angled upward…this same feature was carried into the poets design except they bevelled this outer edge further. All 3 of them kick out impressive vapour production (particularly the Soul S and Jazz)…and again that impressive machining is drool worthy throughout, particularly the Poet.

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    For this section I’d say all of them left me with a great impression, they are stylish, have clean lines, they just scream quality to me ….they are a great party piece on any mod suiting a 22mm RDA. Except for some niggly bits with the adaptor, the Jazz in particular left me blown away, don’t get me wrong the Poet’s machining and engraving makes it arguable the best of the 3 on offer here, but there’s something about that sandblasted finish for me, I just love the rustic stone like look to it…my photos just don’t do it justice in all honesty.
     
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    Coil Building and Wicking

    The Soul S and Jazz are my favourite build decks of all time, this isn’t just limited to the fact they offer variety to single or dual coil build planning, but the screws are easy to get in and out, they can be wrenched tight, and there are recesses under each screw meaning the leads pop up and can be snapped off with ease.

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    V&D have thickened the posts on the Jazz to make them more resilient to bending out of shape. I have seen people complaining about this post bending on the Soul S, however I can’t attest to that happening on mine, and suspect much of that is centred on clone use rather than the real deal. I’m not saying it’s impossible using really large builds, but I’m confident the authentic Soul S will stand up to use and abuse over time.

    I personally prefer using 2.5mm ID coils on the Soul S, this is mainly because resting the coil jig on the edge of the deck provides optimum positioning where half the base of the coil sits in the airflow path. Personally I like side by side coils the most as I like turning down the airflow to about half…this means I have air hitting the centre of each coil due to the offset. If I liked an airier vape id probably go for a single wide coil. There is a whistle on this RDA as I draw, although using side by side coils offsets that a fair bit.

    For the Jazz I found 3mm ID coils work best, in addition I prefer a single long coil. This approach not only makes use of all of the airflow but narrows up the space such that the draw feels roughly the same as the AFC set to half on the Soul S. I did dabble with side by side coils however I think unless you like a single hole open each side it doesn’t work…this is because the legs sit directly over the centre airflow hole which is a bit pointless and creates a choppy, nosier draw.

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    V&D completely changed the airflow system on the Jazz, you have a kind of W shape airflow pattern going on as per the picture below. With this in mind I found its sweet spot was where the top of the coil sits half way up on the screw, leaving its base slightly below the deck line hence why they introduced a cut out.

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    Both of these RDA’s do require you to remove at least one screw when mounting a coil, but the screw guides catch easily thanks to the top notch machining, just remember to reverse thread a little bit to make everything centred before tightening down.

    When it comes to the Poet, it’s even easier than the other two to build on, simply remove the Peak airflow piece, open up the grub screws slightly and plonk the coil in….done, just make sure to leave that peak insulator out when dry burning or it will be affected by the heat. Personally one of the features I loved most from the other RDAs was the recess milled into the deck to pop the leads up as you tighten down, unfortunately this feature is missing on the Poet so you will need to try and get in those tighter spaces to snip the leads.

    I like a 2.5mm ID coil and have it off centre towards the AFC where looking down you see the edge of the coil in line with the insulator on the deck, then position it height wise so the bottom third of the coil is in the air path. Messing about with positioning is key for this RDA, I found just slight movements up or down made a big difference to flavour performance, so if in doubt start higher and if you aren’t impressed, it’s then easy enough to take the top cap off and push the coil down a touch (after is cooled) without having to remove anything.

    All screws are interchangeable between the 3 of them, even the positive pin is, so that makes sourcing spares a lot easier.

    When it comes to wicking, I measure the top of the black O-Ring on all of them, straight cut and fold it into the wells, I found it best not to have any wicking getting in the way of the airflow, keeping the ends well out of the way to let the RDA do its thing.
     
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    This section is always subjective, you might use different juices, diameters, coil builds, coil metals, wattage and wicking material, but it gives you an idea of what I think as I put them head to head in a few different scenarios.

    General Notes for my Tests with these:

    • In the tables the result a: 1 = first place, and 3= last place. Having said that some results are really close, so unless I state otherwise assume it’s a close call.
    • I personally like a warm vape with a fairly restricted direct lung draw so these findings are on that basis.
    • I decided that it would be unfair to try and stick to the exact same coil (wraps or parallel) between the three of them; they each have different requirements; so I set them up how I think they best play with builds, although I am using the same wire type in each of the head to head tests.
    • As a result of the above point the resistance ranges change, so does the wattage needed.
    • I did switch between 2.5mm and 3mm ID coils despite the pictures, I think 3mm suits the Jazz better, and 2.5mm suits the Poet and Soul S better personally…ill note the tests where I switched out the builds after the picture was taken.
    • Drip tips are all stock, as are the caps used.
    • All had the same wicking material and juice types put through them for testing.
    • I found my preferred coil position across all the atomisers before starting these tests
    Test 1 – Low wattage simple build

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    • Wattage Range: Poet = 20W, Soul S and Jazz 35W
    • Wire: 24g Kanthal
    • Resistance: Poet = 0.6 ohms, Soul S & Jazz 0.26 ohms, (I later changed the Jazz’s coil to a single parallel coming to 0.44 ohms)
    • Coil diameter: 3mm ID
    • Spaced Coils
    • Draw: restricted Direct Lung
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    Soul S - Cloud production a plenty, and nice flavour to boot. This RDA is perfectly happy with the simple builds in it. I found it handles the restricted draw required for this sort of build really well, and stays cooler than the Jazz at a similar AFC setting and chain vaping thanks to the longer drip tip. It does noticeably fall behind the Poet in flavour though.

    Jazz - At first I tried the exact same dual coil build I love using on the Soul S, but I don’t think that approach suits the Jazz particularly unless you happen to like setting the AFC to a single hole. It was at this stage I switched to the type of coil I’ve been running since I got this RDA last year (a single longer 3mm ID - in this case parallel wrapped). After this the Jazz and soul S are really closely matched in terms of flavour and cloud, except this RDA is quieter on the draw.

    Poet - At this early stage I can tell the Poet is going to be happy in the lower wattage ranges with smaller builds. A 3mm ID coil was fine for this gauge wire and coil type, but I think 2.5mm will serve it better as I head towards the chunkier coil tests. The draw (using the direct lung insert) reminds me a lot of the Savour RTA, and Galaxies RDA (both MTL atomisers) in that the draw restriction sits between mouth to lung (MTL) and direct lung (DL). Of course this makes transitioning difficult using it side by side with the Soul S and Jazz, especially getting used the air coming in from one side. I found it requires a shallow longer draw; otherwise there’s quite a noise that develops from the top cap’s air inlet. It’s meant for the flavour chasing purist in mind, and where that’s concerned the flavour really stands out between the 3, just don’t be expecting the vapour production the others put out.



    Test 2 - Low Wattage Clapton

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    • Wattage Range: Poet = 23W, Soul S and Jazz 45W
    • Wire: 26/36g 316L
    • Resistance: Poet = 0.5 ohms, Soul S & Jazz 0.2 ohms
    • Coil diameter: Poet & Soul S = 2.5mm, Jazz = 3mm ID
    • Spaced and Non-spaced Coils
    • Draw: restricted Direct Lung
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    Firstly apologies for the state of the coils in the picture, this was wire from a spool, the hotspots I had to work out were frankly ridiculous, unfortunately it meant they long passed the nice colour stage….but they still vaped fine.

    Soul S – I changed over the 2.5mm ID coils now and prefer it, It’s kicking out dense vapour in line with the Jazz, yet had the terrific flavour of the Poet, in this particular category this RDA was hands down the best of the 3 in my opinion….you wouldn’t think it looking at the scores would you, but just shows how close the scores are in reality….whilst the Jazz had a smoother draw I just felt this RDA laps up this build.

    Jazz – In terms of flavour I found it falls behind the other two just slightly although it’s still quite close, though it has the nicest draw of the bunch and stays relatively cool under chain vaping conditions.

    Poet- Even at 23W it warms pretty quickly with this build, it’s not overbearing but the signs are telling me it’s not going to go much beyond a fused clapton, at least in a pleasurable all day vape kind of way. One thing I noticed over the simple wire build was the one sided draw was less noticeable, don’t get me wrong you still hear it, but the actual vape doesn’t feel one sided. It definitely needs a slower draw compared to the other two, but it has lovely flavour.
     
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    Test 3 – Mid Wattage Flapton build (fused Clapton equivalent)

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    • Wattage Range: Poet = 28W, Soul S and Jazz 45W
    • Wire: 25g flat wire/38g 316L
    • Resistance: Poet & Jazz = 0.46ohms, Soul S = 0.12,
    • Coil diameter: Poet & Soul S = 2.5mm, Jazz = 3mm ID
    • Spaced and Non-spaced Coils
    • Draw: restricted Direct Lung
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    I made up for the crappy wire in the last picture, instead making my go to mid-range option the Flapton! ….got the colours for you this time.

    Soul S – This is my go to build for this RDA and has been since I started using it after Christmas, its doesn’t get too hot, produces great flavour and clouds, to be honest I don’t really feel the need to explore bigger builds as I like it just here. The deck can of course take larger builds, but I’d say you are looking at needing a plastic cap to enjoy it. It does have a slight whistle to it though (similar to what I get with the Poet), so if this sort of thing bugs you the best way I’ve found to reduce it on here is to either close the AFC up or go larger on the coil diameter….alternatively there is top airflow caps which stops a lot of that.

    Jazz – take the Soul S and dial it up a notch, flavour, clouds, draw it has it all, it laps up this build with a wide open draw and still provides a suitable restriction to it for my tatses. This RDA can take bigger coils as well, in fact I put a big framed staple in it and its fine at 70W, although needs a taller tip at that point….so I would say buying the 510 adaptor is mandatory as a minimum to use it.

    Poet- The top cap is just about hanging in there on the right side of not being too hot at 28W using this build, but I’m getting a great hit from it, and the flavour again is impressive. I have struggled trying to switch between the three of them for these tests, the slower draw is getting to me so, as I said it’s really for those who enjoy that area between MTL and Restricted DL….it’s a little too tight for me right now, so I’m hoping they’ll be wider air options in the future.

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    Soul S Pro’s

    • Fantastic Flavour
    • Superb vapour production
    • Simple brushed finish
    • Large airflow range to suit all manner of builds (I like AFC about half way)
    • Solid lovely weight to it
    • Quality materials used in its construction
    • Screws are hard wearing (same screws as Jazz and Poet)
    • Versatile build deck
    • All the spares you need
    • Drip tip suits it well (top does get hotter with larger builds)
    • Nice presentation – tube design
    • All the spares you’ll need
    • O-ring tolerance is excellent
    • Good machine finish (few nicks on the deck in places compared to the other two though)
    • Easy to wick
    • Easy to squonk with (though you do need to be a little careful gentle squeeze)
    • There are a load of follow up cap extras from Van and Del, there’s even a top airflow conversion cap to make squonking more forgivable

    Soul S Cons
    • Not the quietest RDA out there (use the dual coil configuration like me to help reduce it)
    • Metal top cap will get uncomfortably hot with higher wattages and larger builds – [plenty of plastic spares out there now for it]
    • Not really practical as a dripper, you’ll be taking a couple of draws before re dripping
    • One side of the posts are thinner at each end, "could" distort with huge builds and over-zealous tightening
    • Shipping – V&D need to use bubble wrap or a box – contents came out of the presentation tube and were loose knocking about in the DHL bag
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    Jazz Pro’s

    • Awesome Flavour
    • Superb vapour production
    • That media finish is something else – love it! (comes in other finishes also)
    • The whistle from the Soul S is gone
    • Slightly more restricted than the Soul S wide open – but suits those longer coil builds perfectly
    • Solid lovely weight to it
    • Quality materials used in its construction
    • Screws are hard wearing (same screws as Poet and Soul S)
    • Versatile build deck
    • O-ring tolerance is excellent (once broken in)
    • Fantastic machine finish
    • Easy to wick
    • Easy to squonk with (though you do need to be a little careful gentle squeeze)
    • There are a load of follow up cap extras from Van and Del, there’s even a top airflow conversion cap to make squonking more forgivable
    • Clean on arrival
    • Post were made thicker than the Soul S on the “thin” side so will withstand greater forces before bending

    Jazz Con’s
    • [Personal] Stock Drip tip is a little too low for me; really it should have come with the 510 adaptor as standard.
    • [personal] 6 posts not really needed as middle leads lay across the centre hole (unless you like one airflow open)
    • Box Presentation a little underwhelming compared with the other two efforts
    • Not really practical as a dripper, you’ll be taking a couple of draws before re dripping
    • 510 threading is a little scratchy until it beds in
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    Poet Pro’s
    • Awesome Flavour
    • Ample vapour production – for its size
    • Doesn’t feel like a one sided airflow (but the draw noise is conflicting the senses)
    • Machining is spotless – best of the bunch gorgeous atomiser
    • Top – airflow forgivable Squonker (if you lean it)
    • Comes in machine or ceramic finish
    • Good for those looking for a shallow longer draw, don’t be expecting airflow like the other two (really it’s between MTL and very restricted DL) – Similar draw restriction I got from the Savour RTA actually
    • Comes with an eye popping 1mm MTL insert for those who like MTL
    • Suits those smaller flavour chaser builds (Simple Round Wire, Claptons, even a fused Clapton)
    • Very easy to wick
    • Very easy to build on
    • Quality materials used in its construction
    • Screws are hard wearing (same screws as Jazz and Soul S)
    • There are a load of follow up cap extras from Van and Del
    • Clean on arrival
    • Nice presentation – wooden box design
    • O-ring is tight to start with but does break in

    Poet Con’s
    • The whistle is back, This RDA is quite loud on the draw unless you take shallow draws
    • [Personal] Non Adjustable airflow, they are in the driving seat. I would like to see more airflow options in the future something slightly looser perhaps.
    • Doesn’t come with a dripping pin
    • Shipping – V&D should use bubble wrap or a box when sending orders out
    • Would like to have seen the recess milled in below the screws like the other two to pop the leads up
    • Would have preferred the machine marks were gone entirely after ceramic blasting


    Final Conclusion

    In terms of quality; every single one of V&D’s creations is fantastic, this isn’t a biased “oh look at my new shiny here”, it’s the whole package and experience that goes with it.

    When it comes to vaping these RDA’s It depends on the situation, personally I like the Soul S best for the low-mid ranged wattage builds, prefer the Jazz for the mid-high end wattage builds, and the Poet is best for low wattage….so top marks there Van & Del for giving different pockets of the community something to enjoy, all three of them are up there with the best I’ve tried in terms of single coil flavour chasing groupings.

    If I had to pick one for the purposes of this review; I’d probably lean towards the Jazz as it suits the types of coils I run a lot, although the Soul S is damn close as well. When it comes to the Poet; I found it noticeably stands out as the flavour chaser of choice, which is really saying something being the other two are stand out anyway. It does take time to transition to it though, in terms of getting used to the non-adjustable restriction of the draw from one side (as I said before its somewhere between MTL and DL)…personally I would like to see Van & Del release some sort of adjustable cap; or loser airflow insert options to open it up just a little more for my personal liking.

    I would just like to end this review with the extras for the other two, personally I found the top airflow caps well worth it, they insulate heat transfer at higher wattages, give you extra squonking capacity, and the drip tips are really comfortable. Just one thing to note on them is be careful using citric/menthol juices they will damage them according to V&D.

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    Thank you for reading my review. I hope you find the information useful, until next time KingPin!
     
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    What, no replies to this review?

    Oh well. I appreciate your efforts Kingpin! and keep up the great reviews. I really enjoyed reading about these rdas.
     
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    Just saw this. What a wonderful read, thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you KP. Since I can't abide a whistle the Jazz is the one that interests me.
     
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    Me too, just noticed the post....great review and fantastic pictures...KP....!
     
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    Great review and comparison KP!!!
     
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    as always King your Wall of Text are nicely broken down that and the pics dont hurt.. just glad your built points can save tired eyes when needed
     
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    Thanks matey, I know mine can be a little long for some :oops: hope it’s broken down enough so peeps can grab info relevant to them easily, be interested to know what you think in this regard
     
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    in short i do love your overall style.

    In length
    Each step is nicely detailed and broken down into it's needed parts.
    the pictures are a good quality just wish the forum thumb nailed them then you get the bigger version if you want via a click...
    some times when your focusing on text having a large picture all of a sudden pop up it could throw you off.
    however your placement in this case is perfect when you need a break you can simply stop on a picture...

    Keep up the good work.
     
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    Sweet thanks ...yeah picture sizing here has and continues to be a nightmare for folks publishing material - I mainly use mobile for browsing and it doesn’t always adjust properly which is a pisser, also unless you log in the pictures appear tiny now (never used to), I could start hosting the pictures externally like some do but I’ve found it affects load speed of the page, and this in an already large article might be a pain for some which I want to avoid
     
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    I love vu but it's the only forum that is a pita on mobile. Have to download the pics to see the full image then go back and delete afterwards. Your reviews are well worth it KingPin.
     
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    What a phenomenal write up dude. Hat tip.
     
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    @KingPin! Late to the party as I don't visit these pages as often as I used to but......your review has helped me make decisions I've been holding for a long time. The Poet has been on my wishlist for maybe 6-7 months and the Soul has captured my interest as well. Your review leaves me no choice but to finally pull the trigger. Thanks for the tremendous effort you put into this. Much appreciated.
     
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    My pleasure muth, really glad it helped :)

    The Poet has a pretty tight draw and does take some fiddling about with coil placement to get right. I struggled with the one sided airflow at first, my senses did need to get used to that as it just feels odd to start with.

    I’m hoping to get some extra inserts for the Poet as well, to try and open it up a bit more. I don’t like too much restriction really. Its my own fault though, I got excited and caught up in first batch rush :crazy:

    These are lovely pieces, but unless you have already, also please check plenty of others thoughts as well, especially as they are on the more expensive side of the scale:cheers:
     
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