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Vandy Vape Kylin Mini RTA review by Mjag....The single coil RTA to beat?

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  1. mjag

    mjag Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    Thank you for taking the time to view my review on the Vandy Vape Kylin Mini which was sent to me from Vandy Vape for the purpose of this review. You can find more info here: http://www.vandyvape.com/detail/atomizer/Kylin_Mini_RTA/

    What you get

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    Now I got a trial production unit and as stated on the box may be different than the bulk production units.

    • Kylin mini with 3ml glass installed
    • Bubble glass for 5ml capacity (verified with a syringe)
    • Spare o'rings
    • Spare allen screws (the deck comes pre-installed with phillip head grub screws)
    • Blue 810 drip tip and optional black grooved 810 drip tip
    • 510 drip tip adapter
    • Phillips screwdriver and allen wrench
    • Clapton coil
    • I did not receive a owners manual but I believe the production version will
    Specs

    • 42.5mm H with drip tip, not including 510 x 24.4mm wide at base, 28mm for bubble glass
    • Threaded top fill with 2 large kidney shaped fill holes
    • 180º 21-hole honeycomb airflow
    • Reduced chamber design
    • Gold plated postless deck and screws

    Check out this deck!

    First thing that impressed me was the deck, talk about coverage, it encircles the bottom of your coils....I was impressed when I saw it.

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    Normally I am not a big fan of phillip head grub screws but these are the usual great screws you get from Vandy Vape, build after build they hold up so well. They include a spare pair of your normal everyday allen grub screws, also gold plated but this is one of the few times I didn't feel the need to swap out the phillip heads, there excellent.

    One thing that gave me pause was the wicking slots, not a lot of room there, it is about 1.6mm deep and 6mm wide. You are also in the way of the threads so care has to be taken so you do not get your wick shifted when you screw the tank back together.

    Another thing that made me go hmmm was to remove the deck the glass is just floating there. Luckily the top o'ring holds it snug so even if I removed it with juice still inside I was able to access the deck. You have to be careful though, would have been nice to have the glass secured when removing the deck.

    It will take all 810 drip tips but I did notice that most of my TFV8/12 810 drip tips with dual o'rings and some goon style friction fit did not sit flush. That is sort of a bummer but the majority of my friction fit 810's were fine.

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    For a 24.4mm tank the fill ports are as big as they can make them which is great, I would sometimes just carefully pour directly from the bottle instead of using a dropper.

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    The Build


    I tried several builds in the Kylin Mini, all of them various degrees of great, even the supplied coil gave off some excellent results. Here I am going to show my favorite build using Quad Core Fused Claptons by www.advancedvapesupply.com which is SS316L 30G x 4 with a 40G outer wrap.

    I used 6 wraps on a 3.5mm post.....oh yeah, this deck can take a big coil, there is room for bigger if your so inclined but thinning out the wicks is a must with that much cotton through the coil.

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    This build I had sitting a little higher to give the airflow room to breath. You can't go much higher though with a big coil due to the reduced chamber design.

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    Now with this 3.5mm coil I had a lot of cotton to deal with, I cut the wicks by putting my scissors on the bottom of the deck, not the base and cutting there.

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    This is prior to thinning out and fluffing the cotton.

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    What worked best for me and my chain vaping style was to have the wicks end right before the threads. This pic is with the wick dry, after juicing them up just position them so they are not in the way of the threads.

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    Performance

    The flavor I am getting off this is just fantastic and the airflow is smooth. Being a single coil it is not for cloud chasers but it's no slouch either, nice dense flavorful clouds is what you will get. The flavor I get with the 3.5mm coil is the kind of flavor where you lick your lips a little after, not spitty but not dry. A smaller coil produces less of the lick your lips phenomenon but still gives out great flavor.

    The airflow control is smooth and solid and no weird sounds whether it be full open, 3/4 or any size opening, this must be mainly due to the honeycomb design.

    With the wicking I prefer it can be a little spitty right after you refill, this goes away after a few pulls though. Juice flow control would have been nice but I am not mad at it and have never sprung a leak.

    I must say that build after build the Kylin Mini has left me impressed, one of the best....hell...probably the best single coil RTA I have reviewed.

    Some comparisons

    I have been enjoying some single coil RTA as of late, not my usual norm, I still prefer dual coils as it just matches my vape style better. While doing a build on the Kylin Mini I decided to put the same build in a couple others I had purchased for fun......ok, there was a sale...can't help myself.

    Pharoah Mini: Now I just got this in a few days ago so not a fair comparison until I have more time. Flavor is pretty good on the Pharoah Mini but the airflow is more restrictive. Just from an airflow standpoint alone I prefer the Kylin Mini and feel the flavor is just a little more rich.

    Geekvape Zeus: I am a fan of the Zeus, not the best flavor but the looks and top airflow so no leaks offset the slight loss of flavor, it is not bad but the Kylin Mini beats it for flavor.....easily. The Kylin Mini is also easier to build on, if I had to let one go then it would be the Zeus but I sure would hate to.

    OBS Crius II: Only about a week of limited use but I got the gold and wow is it sexy. For looks the Crius wins hands down, just a great looking tank. Maybe I have to buy the Kylin Mini in gold for a fair comparison but I have my doubts it would be sexier. The Crius II is a very good performer but the airflow is slightly more restricted. The Crius II also has an odd triangle type screwdriver, if you lose that your screwed...what was OBS thinking, are allen screws so passe? Flavor is pretty close but I still give the edge to the Kylin Mini. I sort of want to say it is a wash between these 2 so far but then again my time with the Crius II is limited. For looks I would pick the Crius II, for performance the Kylin Mini.....I would go with the Kylin Mini, the thought of losing that stupid Crius II triangle screwdriver would keep me up at night.

     
  2. mjag

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    Pros:


    • Outstanding flavor
    • Smooth airflow
    • Easy build
    • Can take a big coil
    • Great grub screws
    • Well built
    • Large kidney shaped fill ports
    • Includes a colored and black grooved 810 drip tip
    • 510 drip tip adapter
    • No leaks


    Cons:

    • Thin juice ports, makes wicking a little tricky
    • No juice flow control (can get spitty after filling)
    • Not the sexiest looking tank out there, well at least not my SS version
    • Glass only held on by top o'ring when removing the deck
    • Only comes with 1 size of each glass, if you break one you are stuck with the other size
    • TFV8/12 style 810 drip tips don’t sit flush

    Final thoughts

    I have to admit that from my first build I was impressed with the flavor and quality of vape the Kylin Mini puts out. After a few days I thought wow, I could write the review now but dredged on to see if I could find a fault other than the tricky wicking. After close to 3 weeks and 4 or 5 builds it has held up extremely well and my opinion from the first few days has not changed, it is an excellent performing tank that is hard to fault.

    About the only thing that I don't love about the Kylin Mini aside from the wicking is the looks of my SS version. Once they are readily available I am going to check out the other colors, just may very well be another Kylin Mini in my future to replace my SS version. As I tend to do there is a pic gallery at the end of my reviews with the Kylin Mini on various mods, you can decide for yourself.....I just looked at my pics and it is not bad looking at all, I am just being a jerk....as usual...lol

    If you haven't noticed I really enjoyed my time with the Kylin Mini and it will be the benchmark I use for single coil tanks until something else dethrones it. I want to thank Vandy Vape for sending this for review, you can find out more at there website: http://www.vandyvape.com/detail/atomizer/Kylin_Mini_RTA/

    If your looking for a deal check this: http://www.vapecrawler.com/results/KYLIN MINI
    I am seeing prices under $30 from US vendors, keep in mind that Chinese New Year, also known as the Spring Festival is upon us so China vendors will not be shipping during that time. Not a lot of places have them in stock as of this date though.

    Check out how this stacks up to other tasty gear and meet the Steampugs team of reviewers. Your bound to have a good time and read up on some great products, not so great ones too http://www.steampugs.co.uk/

    Pics on various mods and different drip tips I used

    Eleaf Tessera (review in progress) stock VV black grooved drip tip
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    Vapecige Creator IM250 with stock VV black grooved drip tip
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    Wake Mod Co. Littlefoot with stock VV colored drip tip
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    Vaptio N1 Pro with a random 810 Ultem drip tip
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    Great review @mjag :banana:

    I just got the Asmodus Zesthia & was wondering could I justify getting the Kylin Mini right away. Your review has convinced me I also “need” the Kylin Mini :D

    Other reviews mentioned the airflow being loud but you made no mention of it. So I gather to you the airflow isn’t loud? That was the only thing kinda holding me back. Have fun in Canada!
     
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    That Zesthia looks really nice, please let me know what you think of it.

    I only read one other review last night on it and they did mention noisy airflow but that wasn't the case for me at all. When I read that I said....huh and immediately grabbed my Klylin Mini and compared it to the other single coils on my list. I would say it is higher pitched sound but not noisier than my other single coil rta's.

    I think we all received the Phobia RDA in the same package, now that can be loud at certain airflow positions, definitely louder and more noticeable than the kylin mini. I should have the Phobia RDA review out next week...I hope...Lol.

    Thank you and I wish I was going to Canada, turns out is is Ontario, California.....about 25 minutes from where I live.

    Have a great weekend

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    I’m enjoying the Zesthia, there’s a thread on ECF @PJReid really loves it. I think it’s a good one but I’ve been sick so perhaps my tasters are a bit off :D but it is nicely made & I’m enjoying it. Dying to know how the Kylin Mini compares.

    Thanks for confirming it isn’t like a wind tunnel :D

    Oops when I saw Ontario I naturally thought Canada lol! Have fun anyway and say hi to @Deucesjack for me!
     
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    I hope I can pick one up today, looks like a winner.

    Lol, it happens all the time I mention Ontario, the Canadian one is the most popluar...lol

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    Enjoyed reading you finding a happy place with the Kylin Mini. Thanks for taking the time.
     
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    Thanks for the Review!
    You put a lots of good details in this well put together review
     
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    Have a great time! At least you dont have far to go.
     
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    Thanks everyone. Waiting In a huge line at ecc, taking forever

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    Boy it must be some line that you’re talking to us :D
     
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    This is my first post on VU. I read reviews, etc. here often but have never been moved to post. Heartsdelight calling me out means I have to come out of lurker mode. :) I love the Asmodus Zesthia. It has the best flavor of any single coil tank that I own - OBS Engine Nano, Crius II, Zeus. Asmodus hasn't really marketed the tank and as a result, there isn't much talk about it. That is a shame because this tank is a winner. It is beautifully made, is SO simple to install a coil, and easy to wick, despite what one reviewer said about it. If anyone is looking for a single coil RTA, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the Zesthia.

    Hi to some ECF friends I see here. ;)
     
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    I love my asmodus too, wanted another like it, but haven't been able to find any round here and was happy with the one I have. The voopoo was a gift; that's why I won't be getting rid of "splash" (my asmodus). It's in my lap in my profile, but may be cut out of the pic; I tried to get it in there. I love the taste of my asmodus too, wasn't sure if it was the mod or tank.
     
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    Is it the Asmodus Zesthia you can't find or the mod? I can't tell from your profile picture. I have several Minikin V2s and they are my favorite mods. The Zesthia is a great tank. Hands down, my favorite. You can find them online at Asmodus and at Eightvape. Eightvape is less expensive and there is a new customer coupon.
     
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    I have a smok babybeast tank on the asmodus minikin mod I have; I've never seen an asmodus tank. My mod is purple and black with looks like paint splashes on it (one reason I call it splash). I never really thought to shop for vape stuff online till now! Thanks for the info, will def be checking it out!!
     
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    Welcome to VU! About time.;)
     
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    @JessE_<3 - this is a picture of the Zesthia on my Minikin V2 Gold Relic, aka Gold Grit.

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    It's just that I am so very shy. :D
     
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    LMAO. Can't believe your 1st post you high jack a Kylin Mini review thread. You will fit right in here!:cheers:
     
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    Hi girlfriend glad to see you posting!
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    You- shy?
    LOL!
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    Pam will love it here!
     
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    Hello stranger!
     
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    Thanks for the great review-
    I have been loving the single coil tanks and this looks like I winner too!
    Really like the Crius ll, the Zeus and the Nano! The Kylin and the Zesthia are looking like great single coil tanks too
     
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    LMAO - It is @Heartsdelight 's fault. She tagged me about it, so of course, I had to meet the challenge. ;)
     
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    Hi Letitia- I hope all is well with you!
    :cheers:
     
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    :D :blowkiss:
     
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    So beautiful! Drool worthy!
     
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    Hi JessE and welcome to VU-
    I love Minikins too! Yes Asmodus has tanks too !
    :inlove:
     
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    @PJReid @SnapDragon NY @Letitia9 Hi girls :wave: nice to see you all here :vino:

    I ordered the rainbow VV Kylin Mini Rta today :D I couldn’t resist @mjag ’s great review & the purple resin driptip to go with the rainbow. @PJReid you can have your rainbow now until if/when Asmodus makes a rainbow Zesthia.
     
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    The Minik Kylin will look awesome in rainbow! I have the OBS Nano rainbow with the Minikin V2 Rainbow- very nice matchy matchy, vaping on that pair now!
     
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    Yes, I have just been looking for the Kylin Mini in my usual places. The rainbow is beautiful. To be honest, I am one of the few who doesn't love postless decks. That said, I will probably end up owning one in rainbow. I do wish that Asmodus would produce the Zesthia in rainbow but since they haven't marketed the tank at all, it is unlikely that sales warrant adding a color. :(
     
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    I never did get the rainbow Minikin v2. Was thinking of matching it with my purple Minikin v2. I didn’t know the OBS Engine Nano came in rainbow ooohh :rolleyes:
     
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    I ordered mine from a new to me online vendor loadupvape.com 5% off for signing up for their newsletter. I goggled them seems like a legit site. They have a phone number, live chat & email support located in California.
     
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    The OBS Engine Nano was a rare thing in rainbow. @Letitia9 thought it might have been a repaint done by a distributor who got in too many SS. She is probably right. The only place I know where you can still get one in rainbow is a German shop. The price is right, but shipping is as much as the tank. I bought one from them because I wanted it that much. The Crius II in rainbow is a good alternative without the high shipping price.
     
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    Wow that is interesting! I didn’t think I had seen any in Rainbow. This will be my first Rainbow atty, so I’m excited :) I think I’m good for new atties for the moment :D

    Have you girls seen the new Asmodus Lustro mod? I’m trying to resist :teehee:
     
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    Yes Hearts we talked about the Lustro a few weeks ago. Not very many colors out yet so I will wait, but I have spent enough money the last few months- LOL!
     
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    It’s 10% off at Asmodus & Vaporrange until Valentines Day :D . I too was thinking of waiting for other colors to come out. But, black is alway good too :p

    I too have spent god only knows how much :D
     
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    Love the Lustro, but I am in the same boat as @SnapDragon NY. I will play the waiting game for now. You can mark me down as definite maybe. :)
     
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    Very good sales at Vapor range and Asmodus- but I am sure Eight Vape will beat them both when they get it in stock!
     
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    That’s true eightvape.com seems to price everything pretty well.

    Ok girls, my wallets thanks you for convincing me to wait too :cheers:
     
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    The line was crazy, just got out of it

    Fun show for sure but wow am I tired and going back tomorrow....noooooo

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    Based on what you said about it I have to get a Zesthia, too bad Asmodus isn't at the ECC show this year. I know you have good taste so really looking forward to it.

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    Great looking combo

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    Does it leak like a siv like it's bigger brother?

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    It is too bad they aren't at the show. I don't understand the Asmodus marketing strategy. The Zesthia is a brand new tank, a winner in machining, looks, and performance yet they are not actively marketing it so no one is talking about it. It is the first Asmodus tank that has tempted me. I own several Minikin V2s and just happened on the Zesthia tank. I studied it, read what little I could find, and made a decision to order it based more on its good looks and a gut feeling than any real review information. It is the best single coil tank that no one is talking about. One reviewer compared it to the Kylin Mini and gave the Kylin a slight edge for flavor if vaping custards at a higher wattage. I don't vape custards at any wattage, so that isn't a concern for me. ;)
    I can't find that on YouTube now, so cannot remember which reviewer it was. All in all, he felt they were pretty even. Vandy Vape's marketing will no doubt put the Kylin Mini on top in sales.

    Your review made me want a Kylin Mini. The rainbow is gorgeous and I do love rainbow tanks. I put one in a shopping cart but haven't pulled the trigger.
     
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    mjag Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    No, I too had seeping problem with the original Kylin, they eventually replaced the base but it took about 2 months.

    Maybe it was because of the problems I had with the original that I just never grew to like it. The Mini has me sold though and it seems vandy vape has learned from there earlier problems.



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    mjag Gold Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    Yeah, Asmodus needs to hire a new marketing team. There was the dual coil they had out about 6 months ago that sort of came and went, I remember wanting one but quickly forgetting about it.

    Found the Zesthia at eightvape, there at the show, gonna see if they brought any with them tomorrow.

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