Vaping Bans: News and Commentary

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  1. Vape Fan

    Vape Fan More like I am now, than I was before VU Donator Gold Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    Juul has only been around for 2 years, yet we see headline like this all the time.

    How Juul Hooked a Generation on Nicotine

    Also, after Altria acquired 35% , Juul received a $2 Billion bonus to distribute to its 1500 employees.
    That av is $1,333,333. each.
     
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    Ever listen to his slime song? done in the 60's and very prophetic.
     
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    i avoid zappa like the plague , same for jonnie Mitchel . but, if you give a link, i will, for you. on one condition = i can be honest. deal ?
     
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    I am gross and perverted
    I'm obsessed 'n deranged
    I have existed for years
    But very little has changed
    I'm the tool of the Government
    And industry too
    For I am destined to rule
    And regulate you
    I may be vile and pernicious
    But you can't look away
    I make you think I'm delicious
    With the stuff that I say
    I'm the best you can get
    Have you guessed me yet?
    I'm the slime oozin' out
    From your TV set (WiFi net)
    You will obey me while I lead you
    And eat the garbage that I feed you
    Until the day that we don't need you
    Don't go for help . . . no one will heed you
    Your mind is totally controlled
    It has been stuffed into my mold
    And you will do as you are told
    Until the rights to you are sold...
     
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    As lyrics go, it’s really good. But I forgot what his music sounds like. You’re right you could sub internet or WiFi with this.
     
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    Zappa, back in my Zappa, Taj Mahal, Carlos Santana, Chick Corea, etc days.
     
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    can't say i have heard that one, though i probably have, 35+ years ago. far as zappa goes, one of his better songs perhaps.
     
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    There’s a Funkadelic sounding bit in the middle with the girls.

    The comments said that smoking killed him. What a waste.
     
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    Prostate cancer is what killed him.
     
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    Love watching Vic's show. Very knowledgeable guy & full of information.
     
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    Ka-ching! Excellent article, and it hits all the important points. I hope this gets read by a lot of people, but who knows.
    Thanks, really great post.
     
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    Even if we get our way on federal level, which I think would just be a 'do nothing' approach, the states will act on their own. Unless something can be done legally.
     
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    New York City Council approves ban on all flavored e-cigarettes


    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/26/new-york-city-council-approves-ban-on-all-flavored-e-cigarettes.html


    The New York City Council voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to ban flavored e-cigarettes as officials seek to curb a spike in underage vaping.

    The ordinance bans all flavored e-cigarette and vaping liquid flavors except for tobacco. Mayor Bill de Blasio will either sign the bill or let it pass into law, his deputy press secretary Avery Cohen said, which will make New York City the largest city in the U.S. to ban all vaping flavors except tobacco.

    The New York City Council Health Committee voted unanimously in favor of the legislation on Monday, and of City Council’s 51 members, 31 signed on as co-sponsors of the bill. The bill passed in a vote of 42 to 2.
     
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    NYC - Bloomberg's stomping grounds, and his 160M anti vape $ at work.
     
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    and he's now running for president...
     
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    ...and climate change is his biggest talking point...
     
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    he should save his money. never going to win ~ Thank goodness!
     
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    don't count your chickens. there are enough sheeple, and he has enough money.
     
  23. The Cromwell

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    They said the same about Trump...
     
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    midwest America will never vote for Bloomberg like they did for Trump. I could be wrong but I doubt it
     
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    Maybe the STORY on vitamin E acetate.
     
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    That is a positively brilliant article.

    I wonder how long it will be before the politicians start a Joshua Mathias Temple fan club and start selling patron saint merchandise. Man did he ever serve their purposes.
     
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    Good to see actual investigative journalism.
     
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    Very competent high quality work there.
     
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    Yep amazing that 'pot head journalists' put our regular media to shame.

    No not amazing at all actually...
     
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    Media should smoke more pot :idea:
     
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    The 'news' media should care more about accurate reporting than ratings.
    Journalism has been sold out.
     
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    Many moons ago.
     
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    yep several factors have contributed to this.
    news used to be a requirement for a station licence and was a public service not a revenue source.
    then the fairness doctrine went away.
    Quite a few other factors as well.
     
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    Walter Cronkite was a liberal through his whole career and nobody could tell. It wasn't found out until after his retirement because he was committed to accuracy and balance rather than being a propagandizing ideologue. He respected his listeners and honored the responsibility of his position of influence. He understood that his job was to be a news reporter and not a policy maker.

    That is loooooong gone.
     
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    Political spin has NO place in real news.
    News with political spin is just propaganda.
     
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    Drat clicked on wrong post to quote LOL
    Meant to click on this one about political spin news being propaganda.

     
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    I am not sure that the vape industry is helping the vaping cause. Just came out with the Widowmaker RTA.
    Considering all the vaping related deaths. Granted vaping E laced THC but you know how the anti vapers will see this...
     
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    The MA flavor ban law:
    Gov. Charlie Baker has signed the country’s broadest prohibition on flavored tobacco into law. The measure makes Massachusetts the first state to permanently ban retail sales of all flavored tobacco, including menthol cigarettes and vape products.

    What's being banned?


    Once the temporary ban is lifted, retailers will no longer be allowed to sell flavored vape cartridges. They will be able to sell devices that deliver nicotine, but not flavored nicotine. Backers of the law argue that flavored vapes have enticed younger users into vaping. Other flavored tobacco products are also being banned.

    Will I still be able to buy menthol cigarettes?
    No — not in Massachusetts, anyway. There was some debate about exempting menthol cigarettes from the ban, but backers of the law prevailed, arguing that including menthol as a banned flavor will help the new law be more effective.

    How about flavored chewing tobacco and snuff?
    They will no longer be available for sale in Massachusetts, either.

    Will I be able to purchase cannabis vape products?
    Eventually, yes. Cannabis vaping products were included in Baker's original temporary ban. But a judge ruled that only the Cannabis Control Commission (CCC) has the authority to regulate medical cannabis products.

    The CCC, however, opted to quarantine mjvaping products, effectively continuing the ban on sales until it can be determined that they are safe. The commission also intends to draw up regulations clarifying the steps it can take in the event of future public health concerns.

    When does this new law take effect?
    The ban on flavored vaping products takes effect immediately. The prohibition of flavored tobacco products kicks in on June 1, 2020.

    Will nicotine vape products cost more under the new law?
    Yes. When passing the law, legislators placed a 75% excise tax on all electronic nicotine delivery systems. Supporters of the law said imposing the tax will price vaping out of the reach of underage users.

    https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2019/11/27/explainer-flavored-tobacco-vaping-law
     
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    Started a thread in #BANTHIS titled
    So we cannot post about the stuff that people are vaping that is killing them and causing vape bans?
    Discussion in '#BANTHIS' started by The Cromwell, 10 minutes ago.

    Says awating moderation.
    I will be on Skype as Robert Cromwell if anyone wants to chat with me. just chat no pic or sound.
     
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    I don't understand. Are you talking about censorship on this site?
     
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    This thread was started before #banthis so there's some things that probably shouldn't be mentioned here, like you can in #banthis.

    I haven't seen any posts here that have been moderated for content. If someone wants to move it to #banthis, they can.
    @5150sick
     
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    Selective censorship.
    Unequal enforcement.
     
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    I moved it.
    and stickied it.
     
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    Despite Recent Findings, The AMA Calls For Total E-Cig Ban

    “In a statement released earlier this month, the AMA urged all levels of government to ban the sale and distribution of all vaping products and e-cigarettes, and only allow sales by prescription.

    Meanwhile, only a week earlier the CDC had announced a “Major Breakthrough”, one that several anti-smoking experts had been insisting on for the last few months: the infamous outbreak of EVALI, is almost certainly not linked with vaping legal nicotine products.”
     
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