Vertical Coils vs Standard Horizontal Coils?

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  1. Trevor Hansen

    Trevor Hansen New Member

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    I've always used 4 wrap 24 G dual coils and every now and again mix it up with Dual parallel with 24 g and a friend of mine showed me his vertical coils. is there an advantage / difference?
     
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    I think they wick a lot better. I've turn the post on a plume veil and built verts and it worked very well.
     
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    I've recently gotten into vertical coils myself and was wondering the same. They definitely wick better and I feel they also have a pretty decent vape production. may also depend on other factors, wire, juice, etc. I like them though.
     
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    Depends, you building an RDA or RTA? In an RDA, there's a lot of other variables to factor in. In a tank, chimney coils, (verticles) IMHO, rule the day. If you do it right, you get Kayfun flavor with nice dense clouds. May not win any competitions, but you can fog a room in nothing flat.
     
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    Increased vapour. I've used quad verts in cloud comps before.
     
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    I have started to build vertical coils as well, the flavor seems better. I have always used them on my kayfuns and my Aqua. I bought an I-WGO 7. It has to have vert builds, the quad coil on this RBA is hard to build at first, but well worth it, flavor heaven and dense clouds
     
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  7. Misty J

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    Vertical coils rock ;-)
     
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    I think it's preference....vertical coils are a bigger pain to build....like my storm V2, that thing only runs dual vertical coils and gives me hell everytime I have to recoil it....but for the air flow it has with those two cylon slots it gives me awesome flavor even all the way open with nicely decent clouds even with a .5 ohm build. I'm torn about it...I hate to love them and love to hate them...what can you do?
     
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    I got too much spit-back with a vertical build in my R91. Went back to a simple horizontal build... Seems to work best for me..

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    Now that I think about it...there is an easy way to figure this out....lets go back in time. Compare a Kanger horizontal coil cartomizer to a Boge/IKV Vertical coil carto....and I think we have our answer....isn't science fun? ;)
     
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    I can never decide on how to wick vertical coils, sometimes I just leave a bit on the top of the coil with long length going into the juice well but I don't know if that's best for getting even wicking. I've also tried using 1 long wick and running it through both coils with the wick connected at the top and the ends going into the juice well, in some rdas that takes up too much room tho.

    Any tips on wicking vert coils?
     
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    dre Gold Contributor Member For 2 Years ECF Refugee

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    I just have the wick touching the base and very little coming past the top. Seems to work best and I can use the RDA full well capacity
     
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    Thanks, I'll give that a shot.
     
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    Haven't tried to do vertical coils on my RDAs. Might mess with them now that I've read this post though lol.
     
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    The way I decide whether or not to do verticals is the type of airflow holes on the rda. With horizontal cyclops openings I do horizontal coils, on something like the 454 or dark horse I'll do vertical and on the mutation I set the coils at about a 45 degree angle to sort of match the airholes.
     
  16. Jwilzz

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    Makes sense. My CLT is definitely meant for horizontal but if the resistance isn't too low the airflow shouldn't matter too much.
     
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    I disagree....air flow always matters as much...the amount of air in any RDA at any resistance can change the vapor and flavor quality....finding the right airflow is just as important as finding the right coil build IMHO.....

    I think the "horseshoe wick" is the best for vertical coils....I've tried using two different wicks and just having a little wick stick out the top and it works just fine except if the amount of cotton isn't even one side dries out faster....I know that's the same for any dual coil but having one long even wick seems to be more important on vertical coils....at least that's what it feels like to me....uniform is key
     
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    Well you want airflow yeah, but it doesn't make as big of a difference on higher ohm builds. Hence why there's barely any airflow on non-mods.

    And too much airflow on higher ohms will keep the coil too cool.

    I'm not saying airflow isn't important.
     
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    Now days some high watt devices can put out high voltage to match and you can put out a lot of power with even higher ohm coils...small gauge wire cracked up high can burn pretty hot and too much airflow can coil down even a low sub ohm coil...and I didn't say a lot of airflow is needed...I just said the right amount of airflow is needed
     
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    Yes I agree. I'm just saying with my CLT the airflow shouldn't make too much of a difference if I do a vertical coil. It has pretty decent airflow holes.
     
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    ohhh...ok...my bad. sometimes I'm a little slow. I understand what you're saying....I was speaking generally more than for a specific atty. Yeah, I've been eyeballing a CLT version one since it came out. It looks like it would be good for any way you want to build it....I'd even go in the middle and slant the coils just to see what happens...I do that with my TOBH sometimes but I am not sure if it makes a much superior vape in that particular atty...

    the difference in coil position I am guessing in a CLT is by making the coils vertical the airflow would hit the length of the coil more evenly on the long sides giving it better vapor production as apposed to hitting it just directly on one side like on a horizontal coil...but I am just pondering a guess....that's what it seems like what happens on my Storm V2 and it's made with the same cylon style slots and is designed for vertical coils specifically.

    Sorry again for misunderstanding you...I do apologize.
     
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