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  1. AnkouSitan

    AnkouSitan Bronze Contributor

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    So I’m rally just starting to venture into building/rdas. So far I’ve just been using precut mesh strips for the profile or premade coils for the rdas. My biggest question when it comes to building is all the names and designs of wires. I’m trying to figure out what the all mean and what ones to strive for.

    What I mean by this is what is alien or Clapton or fused Clapton?

    Is one better for flavor vs cloud production?

    I’ve been looking up different types of coils and such but they all go into resistances, which I know I need to take in account for safety, but what are the differences between all these builds?
     
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    inspects Squonkamaniac Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    Hard to answer what the differences are, everyone has their own taste buds, what someone may like, others may hate. I've tried about every coil imaginable, then I went back to a single coil with one wire....:)
     
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    KingPin! In my defence, I was left unsupervised ^^ Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Platinum Contributor Member For 1 Year VU Challenge Team Reviewer

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    Largely looks but some offer benefits over others in wicking speeds, flavour production, cloud production

    Best bet is try to some different types and see what you think, as inspects said some folks like keeping it all simple and stick with plain round wire, others like adding more surface area and pockets in the coil for juice to bubble on

    Clapton variants for the most part do me absolutely fine ...I may mess with more cores at times, these just have a straight thinner gauge wrap bind to hold the cores together (bit like a guitar string with a single core wire)

    I do like framed staples though where you use ribbon wires in the middle and two round frames either side then bind it all together ...again either with thinner straight binding or alien binding

    The idea behind aliens is they wick juice faster and I’ve observed this ...if you have the same cores side by side one with straight wrapping the other with alien wrapping (curvy) and then put a drop of juice on one end ...watch how the alien wrapped coil spreads the juice along the coil compared to the other one

    When you see these really huge ass coils like staggertons they are mainly for pics, thier performance offers diminished returns to the point they are just for the hobby building aspect over day to day vaping
     
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    Rooster Cogburn Silver Contributor ECF Refugee Reddit Exile

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    I’ve tried most exotic coils and they are all fine. The only real difference that I noticed between them is ramp-up time and battery life. I’m sure they have some effect to the vape but I just didn’t notice enough difference to justify the decrease in battery life, because it takes more power to heat up all that wire. By all means try them out because the cost of premade coils isn’t that high so it’s worth it to see if you like one style over another. I just didn’t see enough increase in flavor or vapor to justify the battery life loss exotics cause compared to simple round or even twisted coils.
     
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    r055co VU Donator Platinum Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    Ramp up time and battery life all simply comes down to gauge of wire aka wire mass.

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    r055co VU Donator Platinum Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    Myself I mostly vape fused Claptons, simple to make and outstanding performance along with excellent flavor. The higher end more exotic coils sometimes provide a better slight better flavor but IMO not that much.

    Best advice is to try them out and find what works best for you. As for the names use Google for there's a lot of different styles out there and a picture/video is worth a 1000 words.

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    CactusFanaticus Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    Same here, used to use fused claptons only, now I use simple stainless steel single coil round wire builds.
     
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    gbalkam Gold Contributor Member For 2 Years ECF Refugee Reddit Exile

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    When learning to build remember Keep It Simple. I'll go over the 4 basic builds.
    nano, micro, macro coils. This is just a single wire wrapped around a spindle. The difference is the size of the spindle.
    Nano < 1.5mm, micro >1.5mm but <2.25mm, Macro => 2.25. These are the most basic and easiest coils to build
    Coil size is stated as mm ID. (mm Inner Diameter)

    Next is twisted, parallel, kissing parallel. Simply put these are 2 coils on one spindle. So 2 (or more) wires twisted together, coiled side by side untwisted or Kissing *2 coils mounted on one side as -/+ and +/-. Advantage is lower resistance and shorter ramp up. For example.. 4+4 wraps (2 coils) is lower resistance and ramps up faster than 1 8wrap coil. Kissing means 2 coils on one side meet in the middle to form 1 coil. They can also be used separated for a quad coil build. For now, concentrate on twisted and parallel. Kissing and quads will come shortly after a couple builds.

    Clapton is a core wire such as in the macro coils wrapped with a high ga wire 32ga or higher so it resembles a guitar string. Hence the name Clapton. When starting to wrap clapton coils, do one at a time. Much easier to control 8 inches of wire than 16 inches.

    Finally Fused Claptons. Exactly like the Clapton above except you use 2 or more wires as in parallel coils. Again, start by making 1 coil at a time for control while learning.

    http://vapingunderground.com/threads/how-to-build-you-first-basic-coil-for-new-vapers.298828/

    Once you master these you can configure your core and wrapping wires in very complex coil builds.. such as 3x 26ga + 2x flat ribbon wire, fused *claptoned together*. Or 5x flat ribbon wire boardered with 2x 26ga wire and fused. *claptoned* together.

    Im lazy so I ordered a deadalus coil jig *with drill* for more complex builds. It automatically wraps the core wires with the fusing *claptoning* or wrapping wire. It is a bit pricey around $60 but when you consider some coils run for $5 to $15 and up each..it pays for itself quickly.

    Note.. I highly do not recommend the Deadalus coil jig kit without the table top drill. You technically can use your own hand drill.. but the jig tends to vibrate and double back past a certain speed and is a pain in the ass to hold while wrapping your coil.
     
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  9. AnkouSitan

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    Thank you. This was very helpful.
     

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