Hey all, I'm new to this forum but I wanted to bring something to the attention of everyone. I recently ordered hibiscus from tpa. On the back was a danger label. Says causes damage to organs! They don't take returns so I just wanted to give everyone a heads up. Don't use it.
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I guess us riders think alike.
If it's not listed on their website, how did you manage to purchase that from them, I'd also like to see a picture of the front of that bottle as well, I smell troll
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WTF is this?I learned my lesson the hard way.
it says "MAY CAUSE DAMAGE' not will the air you breath 'MAY CAUSE HEATH PROBLEMS' shouting out critical scares need an educated analysis
1. TFA does list Hibiscus for sale, here: https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-7375-hibiscus-flavor.aspx
2. TFA also provides a list of components in Hibiscus: http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/componentlist.aspx?sku_search=344638
While I personally think TFA Hibiscus is a horror-show of a flavor, we're obviously looking at a troll out to smear TFA for some reason.
2. TFA also provides a list of components in Hibiscus: http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/componentlist.aspx?sku_search=344638
While I personally think TFA Hibiscus is a horror-show of a flavor, we're obviously looking at a troll out to smear TFA for some reason.
"Causes damage to organs". Get it,,,,, causes damage to organs.
Organs.... Damage.... Causes
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https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-7375-hibiscus-flavor.aspx
doesn't seem to be made for vaping if that's he same stuff
doesn't seem to be made for vaping if that's he same stuff
"Causes damage to organs". Get it,,,,, causes damage to organs.
I must be really slow today, I totally missed it too.
Thanks for explaining it
What were we just talking about? ManI must be really slow today, I totally missed it too.
Thanks for explaining it
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Gotta love Sammy!!!What were we just talking about? Man
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Yeah right??? WTF IS THAT??
Umm I thought that Perfumers Apprentice flavors were for perfumes, candle making and such.
And the Flavorers apprentice was for consumable flavorings.
Is this not correct?
And the Flavorers apprentice was for consumable flavorings.
Is this not correct?
Ohhh my god have I been vaping Channel #5
Hey don't knock it till you have tried it.
I read on the internet that's a better flavor to vape for attracting a lover than...
https://www.clubderdampfer.de/club-aroma-kuhmist-1ml.html
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Dear god and I thought I was crazy My god!!I read on the internet that's a better flavor to vape for attracting a lover than...
https://www.clubderdampfer.de/club-aroma-kuhmist-1ml.html
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TFA now has Chicken and Waffles flavoring.
I just puked in my mouth a bit when you posted this I am trying to think of a Chicken pot pie recipe dear lord
Just watched a vid of a review on it. He got a 10 ml free sample and mixed some up. Said it was awful and he can't get the flavor out of his mouth.
I think he used fire on his atty.
Then there is the Lasagna flavoring.
I seriously feel nauseous
I just hope the members who contributed in this thread are okay...
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/accidental-fruity-deliciousness.110818/#post-590037
I can't recall a recent post from either of them!
Ron
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I guess they did not last long after trying it?I just hope the members who contributed in this thread are okay...
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/accidental-fruity-deliciousness.110818/#post-590037
I can't recall a recent post from either of them!
Ron
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"I was not proud of what I had learned but I never doubted that it was worth knowing."- Hunter S. Thompson
I remember years ago I had this grand idea to make tobacco flavors and early on in the mixing scene I grabbed M-Type tobacco I remember mixing it and there was some addictive quality to it and I actually thought I liked it so I upped the percentage I mean real high then "IT" came I do not know what "IT" is but suddenly I started puking I thought at first it was Nic OD and all kinds of stuff little did I know that stuff that M-Type totally overwhelmed my whole system for weeks I could not shake the smell or taste and if I am a bit sick and I vape certain Ejuice its like this mad flashback of NastyI just hope the members who contributed in this thread are okay...
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/accidental-fruity-deliciousness.110818/#post-590037
I can't recall a recent post from either of them!
Ron
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"I was not proud of what I had learned but I never doubted that it was worth knowing."- Hunter S. Thompson
So no Crab ejuice then?
Hibiscus I have never mixed with that stuff probably not I am surprised I have survived with all the melted plastic I have vaped with menthol juices before Glass tanksI just hope the members who contributed in this thread are okay...
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/accidental-fruity-deliciousness.110818/#post-590037
I can't recall a recent post from either of them!
Ron
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For single flavor mixing, better to stick to FA Bone Marrow. (Maybe
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Why not? "Natural and artificial flavors, propylene glycol, water" are typical of flavorings used in vaping. I can assure you it vaporizes without wrecking coils & hardware (unlike flavorings with gums, added coloring, vegetable oils, sugars, etc.) The flavoring industry and perfume industry begin with many of the same base ingredients - same molecules. Think of perfume that smells of vanilla, for example.
Or is it the detailed components you're questioning? ( http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/componentlist.aspx?sku_search=344638 )
No diketones are listed, if that's your concern. Of course a quick call/email to Linda at TFA could confirm that, if you want to double check.
It's not a flavoring I enjoy, but it's not one for vapers to avoid due to the ingredients, if that makes sense.
Good on the MSDS sheet.
I will bet that is one of the flavors that would give me a swollen mouth , sore throat and lungs and kill all my taste for 2 days.
I have that problem with lots/most of TFA's flavorings.
1. TFA provides current MSDS on this page: http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/specsheetlist.aspx. (click "SDS U.S." link after any flavor)
2. TFA's current sheet for Hibiscus: http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/msds/344638.pdf. It's dated 1/19/2017 - years newer than "shopify" has, though I didn't compare to see what, if anything, has changed.
3. Compare to some other flavorings, perhaps some you feel comfortable vaping. Here are some random excerpts:
Juicy Peach: http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/msds/345569.pdf "central nervous system depression. Prolonged or repeated exposure to skin causes defatting & dermatitis"
Passion Fruit: http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/msds/344802.pdf "avoid breathing {dust/fume/gas/mist/vapors/spray}" "serious eye damage..."
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream: http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/msds/346849.pdf "respiratory sensitization: category 1" "skin corrosion/irritant: category 3"
The MSDS contains all the (standardized, legally-required) warnings for each component *in its pure form*. Sure, it can look horrifying! Remember that none of the flavorings contain 100% of any component that prompted the warnings. This is just how MSDS work. Here's more about MSDS requirements & data provided in general: http://www.afscme.org/news/publicat...eets/how-to-read-a-material-safety-data-sheet.
In the end, it's always up to us to determine what we're willing to use, of course. TFA provides more ingredient info than most; one can see why others may not provide such detail - but be sure other flavor manufacturers use many of the same molecules.
If you're concerned about the effect of vaporized flavorings on living human tissue, there IS one company that's done such testing. Here's some info about FlavourArt's ClearStream Onward, where you can see test methods & results for that brand: http://www.clearstreamonward.com/home-en/ .
Outside of TFA and FA, most manufacturers tell us next to nothing. If anyone has more info for other brands, I hope they'll share some links.
2. TFA's current sheet for Hibiscus: http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/msds/344638.pdf. It's dated 1/19/2017 - years newer than "shopify" has, though I didn't compare to see what, if anything, has changed.
3. Compare to some other flavorings, perhaps some you feel comfortable vaping. Here are some random excerpts:
Juicy Peach: http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/msds/345569.pdf "central nervous system depression. Prolonged or repeated exposure to skin causes defatting & dermatitis"
Passion Fruit: http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/msds/344802.pdf "avoid breathing {dust/fume/gas/mist/vapors/spray}" "serious eye damage..."
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream: http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/msds/346849.pdf "respiratory sensitization: category 1" "skin corrosion/irritant: category 3"
The MSDS contains all the (standardized, legally-required) warnings for each component *in its pure form*. Sure, it can look horrifying! Remember that none of the flavorings contain 100% of any component that prompted the warnings. This is just how MSDS work. Here's more about MSDS requirements & data provided in general: http://www.afscme.org/news/publicat...eets/how-to-read-a-material-safety-data-sheet.
In the end, it's always up to us to determine what we're willing to use, of course. TFA provides more ingredient info than most; one can see why others may not provide such detail - but be sure other flavor manufacturers use many of the same molecules.
If you're concerned about the effect of vaporized flavorings on living human tissue, there IS one company that's done such testing. Here's some info about FlavourArt's ClearStream Onward, where you can see test methods & results for that brand: http://www.clearstreamonward.com/home-en/ .
Outside of TFA and FA, most manufacturers tell us next to nothing. If anyone has more info for other brands, I hope they'll share some links.
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Don't do it!! Someone sent some to me and it's by FAR the most horrendous thing I've thus to date.
I've had a Ravioli vape and it was actually good... I wasn't expecting it to be.
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I think the difficulty is that "hibiscus" is a PERFUME ingredient, not a FLAVOR ingredient.
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Check the posted link. It takes you to the hibiscus FLAVOR ingredient, not a PERFUME ingredient.
Don't like High biscuits.
Meat or cheese ravioli vape?
Thanks!
Ron
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"Spaghetti can be eaten most successfully if you inhale it like a vacuum cleaner."- Sophia Loren
It tastes like Pizza Combos if that answers your question... Not overly cheesy and no meat. (thank Goodness)Meat or cheese ravioli vape?
Thanks!
Ron
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That answers my question perfectly! Many Thanks!
I like Combos, and the Pizza is my favorite variety.
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