I think mechs make sense due to the simple, "fool" proof design. Batteries will always be available.
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What are you stocking up on due to regulations?
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Not sure what to get. Hybrid tops are scaring me off. I have the Sub tank and mutation xv4 but mostly use just the subtank. I need an RTA with an adjustable 510. Theres so much research I gotta do now. Although the Wismec Theorem RDTA should work.
I really hope you're right Blake, but as the regs are writen now I doubt it
Yup, they're covering all their bases. What I'm getting is pretty much anything used solely to vape with is covered. We'll have to see how it all plays out once they start enforcing it.
The regs are both very vague and contradict themselves fairly often and I think this is very deliberate. Being vague they can expand the scope to include pretty much anything they deem fit, and the contradicting nature will make any kind of case against it a nightmare to fight.I really hope you're right Blake, but as the regs are writen now I doubt it
Yup, they're covering all their bases. What I'm getting is pretty much anything used solely to vape with is covered. We'll have to see how it all plays out once they start enforcing it.
Get some decent parallel Mech's with adjustable 510 pin's, maybe a couple tube mod's. Insure you have a "real" mech, not a hybrid with a MOSFET chip. Also do your research on Mech safety, there really are just only a few easy to follow basic rules, but those rules are extremely important.
1. Know Ohms law
2. Use only quality "Authentic" batteries, Samsung, Sony, LG, avoid malicious battery company's like eFest.
3. Take care of your batteries, rewrap when you get nicks in them, wraps are very cheap and easy to rewrap
4. Stay within actual CDR when you build, if your battery is 20amp CDR, don't build above 20amp
5. Keep your mod clean and maintained
I even take an extra step and when I do a fresh build I vape it for a bit on a regulated mod to really insure there are no shorts.
I myself avoid hybrid connections even though I have the Noisy Cricket, it's the only Mod I have with a hybrid type connection. When shopping for a Mech things to look for are insure they have a good venting system. I avoid Clones, if you do get a clone do some research an insure it's good quality, there is a lot of junk out there from China. Basically just use your head and you'll be fine. I went into Mechs due to the pending bullshit coming down and to be honest, I really love them.
Can you explain CDR? I was looking into the Noisy as well. Do you know of a 4ml capacity tank that will work with that?
I saw FT has the authentic one for $20. Im gonna go with that
I'll be stocking up on nic, a few flavorings, and maybe a couple of dual 18650 mechs.
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A lot of questions I don't know the answers to yet
But, things look bleak at this moment.I have no idea on what to stock up on. I don't build (can't do). I diy for myself and two family members so I'm might get another liter of nic. I have nic from the last vape Apocalypse. I believe the nic will store well for years. I based my opinion on Kurts (a ecf member/chemist) findings/thoughts.
I'll have to buy some cheap nautilus tanks for me and the other two. We are simple vaper-ers and don't require much.
I'll have to buy some cheap nautilus tanks for me and the other two. We are simple vaper-ers and don't require much.
CDR = Continuous Discharge Rate, for example Sony VTC5's and Samsung 25R's are 20 Amp
Also the NC is not a good first mech, especially with the hybrid connection. Look for a parallel Mod that you can build around .2 ohms on up. The NC is a series mod you and you build high like .5 on up. Running a Tank on the NC you really, really, really need to know what the hell you're doing. It's not for the beginner.
You're going to run out of coils, you really need to learn how to build or find someone who can for you.
I have plenty of mods and got a few more coming, pretty stocked up on tanks, but I don't DIY, tried it before and didn't work out that great, so guess I will stock up where I can on pre-made juice in glass bottles and hope things change before I run out, but not running out now, as we are meant to be OK for another few years from what I have heard.
My builds are usually .3-.6 so I deff know how to build them. Issue I have is the tank thats compatible with it.
With the NC lowest I would say to build is .5, even with that hot of a build you need lots room and airflow, use smaller gauge wire to fit in the deck of a tank. I've run the Griffin on mine using 30 gauge at 1.1 ohm. I've also drilled out the airflow on one of my Bellus Tanks.
Additionally I use a heat sink, that serves two purposes
1. Heat dissipation
2. Extends the 510 pin
Remember this is a hybrid connection and you MUST have an extended 510 pin on any device you attach or you will hard short and blow your face off.
Again Tanks on the NC or any series mod isn't for even a Novice, you really know what you're doing.
Also I very highly recommend vaping on a regulated device any new build to insure you don't have any shorts or janky connections.
Agreed I would always try on a regulated first. Do you still need an extended 510 even with the heat sink?
The heatsink does extend the 510, that's how I've been able to us a device without an extended 510.
Just look around and you can find a decent parallel, here's one I just picked up and really loving it.
Looks really cool but out of my budgetThe heatsink does extend the 510, that's how I've been able to us a device without an extended 510.
Just look around and you can find a decent parallel, here's one I just picked up and really loving it.
Google around, watch some reviews to look for a good Parallel box at a decent price, they're out there.
It's about perspective, the cost of the Anubis is about the price of a carton of the stinkies
So you guys are saying no vaping products will be available? Damm, I really need to read the deeming regulations.
They go into effect Jun 10th, anything on the market after 2007 they will need to get FDA Approval which is in excess of $1 million to have them even consider it. There is a 2 year grace period for vendors to sell what they have, so in summation. Sept 11th 2009 only thing that can be sold is like the Blu garbage you get in mini marts, which just happens to be Big Tobacco product........
I will have to check out the "other" vaporizers that are being sold for "weight loss" and "other substances".
Donald Trump decided against a wall across Canada so you can come here if you don't mind living in an igloo and using dogsleds to move around.
This is a smart idea. Thanks.
@Artemis, the SFATA will be releasing an eaiser to understand "guide" so to speak in about a week or so. 499 pages of contradicting FDA speak is overwhelming.
I finished reading that garbage today. My head still hurts.
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If you see a link can you let me know. Thanks for the fyi.
Will do!If you see a link can you let me know. Thanks for the fyi.
@Hottvapz I applaud that. I hope you made some sense of it.
Huck sweetie. I read it some things I had to read a few times. I picked it apart. And the one thing that is 100% the FDA does not want the vaping industry around period!
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Sure is how it feels. Liek they wadded up a piece of gum, chewed it up and spit it out on the highway. Then a truck rolled over it.
Assholes.
At least you got through it. I tried. Made it to page 4.
My wife asked me how long until I get locked up for eliquid trafficking after regs go into effect. Time to remap the old moonshine paths...lol
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It's not eliquid. It's massage oils, lip gloss and lube now.
Hmmm fruity pebbles massage oil...interesting
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If I start keeping my juice in repurposed tubes of Astroglide and Vagisil to avoid getting busted. Jeeze Louise
Hmm... maybe I could make a buck re-establishing my granddad's old biz. Way back when, he souped up bootlegger's cars and added things like switches to dim one tail light to make it look like a different car at night, etc.
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I thought it was August 10?
Yeah, so did I. Did they fuck us worse in page 312 or something?
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I hope not! I'm hoping to get at least a couple more designs out.
That's when the 90 day grace period starts, then in August it's 2 years to clear out your existing stock
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Well something positive, Chinese companies are getting into the fight. Just saw on Reddit Kangar released a statement they're jumping into the fight. What we can hope for and I believe it's viable that litigation will tie this up for some time
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https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic...ay_what_you_will_about_chinese_mfgs_at_least/
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I've suggested to Augvape that the small Chinese companies band together to help fight this as one larger company.
I haven't read through this whole thread, but I had this same thought, and here you go. If it's been mentioned, my bad, late to the party.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/22/v...cig-activists-dealt-blow-after-judges-ruling/
I remember reading that when it happened and thinking now we have a precedent, which may become huge. Just another thread of hope to hang on to.
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Agree. I'm debating whether having them ruled "not tobacco" is best or passing the Cole Bill is. Ruling them not tobacco may just force the FDA to create a new category, but come back with nearly the same regs. The Cole Bill would at least allow current products to stand, and make it easier for new products to show equivalence.
What do all of you think?
