What is the best for me starting?

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  1. NitroBex

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    This question is very difficult to answer because there are many options and different people have different needs.

    At the base you will need a power source, a atomizer, liquid and a charger. I will go through some options here and weigh pros and cons. All of these links will be to http://www.fasttech.com/ just for uniformity.

    The Cig-a-Like:
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10004396/1352101-510-t-usb-rechargeable-180mah-electronic
    Pros: Small, Friendly to new user.
    Cons: Not a satisfying hit, build quality, battery life span.
    Similar items: BLU Cigs, White Cloud Cigs, V2, Enjoy
    Thoughts: Almost every new vaper wants to start with one of these because it looks like a cigarette. The vape experience is pretty miserable though and many people move past or stop using these with in the first week of getting one (if not the first day.)

    The Ego:
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10005271/1489402-evod-twist-450mah-variable-voltage-rechargeable
    Pros: Small, Friendly to new user, Extra battery life
    Cons: Build quality, battery life
    Similar items: Inoken V3, Vision Spinner, Winder, Aspire CF
    Thoughts: This is the most successful device for converting new vapers. The vape experience is decent much better than the Cig-A-Like and with many of the Ego's you can adjust the power to some extent. You will often need 2, one to vape and one sitting on a charger. These can be found in many gas stations and mega marts.

    The VV/VW Mod:
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/3...f-istick-20w-styled-2200mah-vv-vw-apv-box-mod
    Pros: Much more durable than the 2 prior, excellent vape experience, fully adjustable, able to grow with you into intermediate levels of vaping. Able to accept many atomizers.
    Cons: Unable to sub ohm on some units so make sure you get a tank that is compatible. Often needs external batteries and more expensive chargers how ever many are avalible with interal batteries.
    Similar items: iStick, Cool Fire IV, Sigelei 150
    Thoughts: This is what I recommend for any new vaper. My go to recommendation is the Sigelei 150 as it can grow with you as they are able to vape as low as 7 watts and as high as 150 watts and can accept almost every type of atomizer. Even if you progress past them they make for an excellent back up device. They are everything most vapers need.

    The Mech:
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10005773/1700803-nemesis-style-mechanical-mod
    Pros: Able to run High power rebuildable atomizers, Simple mechanical connections with no circuit boards to go bad.
    Cons: No level of protection, Advanced build knowledge needed, no level of adjustablity.
    Similar items: The SMPL, Hamond Boxes, The Cherry Bomber
    Thoughts: In the hands of the experienced vaper these can be some of the most satisfying devices, but for new vapers they are a bit much to take in all at once. It would be like handing a 16 year old the keys to a Ferrari. A Ferrari is a wonderful machine but at the same time it is not a great first car...

    Batteries: One suggestion is to get the best batteries your device is compatible with. Batteries will grow with you an extra dollar or 2 per battery can go a long way. Some popular batteries are MXJO (yellow), Samsung 25r (baby blue), LG HE4 (red), Imrens (Purple).

    Now that we have the power plant out of the way next to to put something on top of it to vape.
     
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    Now that we have the power plant out of the way there are many types of atomizers to put on the top. I am going to cover the 4 main types, this is not an all inclusive list but will get you to know some of the most common ones. It is very important to select an atomizer that is compatible with your device. A CE4 clearomizer will not thread onto some mechs as it has Ego threads not a 510 threading, and putting a sub ohm dripper on a cig-a-like will draw more power than the battery is capable of and destroy the device or worse.

    Clearomizer:
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/0...-electronic-cigarettes-round-mouth-atomizer-1
    Pros: Easy, Inexpensive, Reusable
    Cons: Often Plastic, Often Poor Flavor Production
    Similar items: Evod, MT3
    Best used on: Egos, VV/VW Mod
    Thoughts: This is the most common start up style tank due to the low cost and ease of use and how reusable it is.

    Cartomizer:
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10004522/1345600-smoktech-510-dual-coil-cartomizer
    Pros: Easy, Inexpensive
    Cons: Short Life
    Similar items: Boge
    Best used on: Cig-A-Likes, Egos, VV/VW Mod
    Thoughts: These are used with Cig-A-Like and some times in Carto Tanks. Many vape stores do not carry or push these but they are viable for beginners. While not the most pure flavor I do feel that they have better flavor than the clearomizer.

    Fill and Vape Tank:
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10011578/2380300-atlantis-v2-styled-sub-ohm-tank-clearomizer
    Pros: Easy, larger capacity tank, Good flavor
    Cons: Price, Having to replace heads.
    Similar items: Sub Tank, Pro Tank, Super Tank
    Best used on: Egos, VV/VW Mod
    Thoughts: These are by far the most common every day use tank of the intermediate vaper. They work and they work well. They have very good flavor and depending on the model they have great performance. One word of caution is many of the new tanks are "Sub Ohm" tanks so make sure your device can support the ohms it is running at. Remember the lower the number on the ohms, the more powerful it is and some regulated devices will not work below .5 ohms.

    Rebuildable Tank:
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10006473/1662502-kayfun-lite-styled-rebuildable-atomizer-4-5ml
    Pros: Excellent Flavor
    Cons: Advanced build knowledge needed
    Similar items: Kraken, Aqua, AGA
    Best used on: VV/VW Mod, Mechs
    Thoughts: Excellent flavor production and large juice capacity these are excellent for all day vapes but are not very friendly to new vapers.

    Rebuildable Dripper:
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/0...h-atty-v2-style-rebuildable-dripping-atomzier
    Pros: Excellent Flavor
    Cons: Advanced build knowledge needed, Frequent Refills Needed
    Similar items: Stillare, Mutation X, Plumeveil
    Best used on: VV/VW Mod, Mechs
    Thoughts: Many experienced vapers use this all day. It provides the most flavor, but they are very difficult to setup for a new vaper with out help. You need to refill quite often.
     
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    Liquid is very subjective. If you are looking for "the best starting liquid" there is none. One thing that makes this even more dificult for a new vaper is smoking reduces your sense of taste. That being said starting off you are best deciding on a family of flavoring and ordering small bottles at first. As you regain your sense of taste and have decided what type of flavor you like you can refine from there. Some basic categories of flavors to look at are:
    1: Tobaccos - For the most part none of these taste like a cigarette tasted, they taste like the fresh pack smelled. Reason being there is no combustion in vaping. Some popular ones are "Red Type" which is to replicate a full flavor king like Malbro, Desert Ship which is to simulate a turkish tobbaco like Camels, RY4 this is pretty specific to vaping it is a sweet tobacco blend and is often the tobacco flavor that is most accepted by vapers it often has hints of vanilla and caramel in it.
    2: Fruits - These are straight forward and simple they are often flavors such as watermelon, or strawbery. There are some meadly flavors such as a banana kiwi strawbery with a hint of orange, but often new vapers are more sucessful with the more stright forward flavors.
    3: Bakerys - Many experianced vapers will vape this type of flavor as it is very smooth. The flaovrs could be anything from cupcakes, custards, cereals, cakes, to breads. Many new vapers struggle with these flavors as they are not as pronounced as some of the other type of flavors, remember after all your taste buds are still healing, do not get discouraged.
    4: Savory flavors - Bacon makes everything better right? Not in this case. There is a whole family of savory flavors from bacon, to steak and onions, to crab flavored eliquid. These may be foods you love but they when inhaled with no texture behind them taste pretty bad and can really turn off a new vaper. They are often used as a joke or a "challenge" vape between friends.

    The next thing to take into consideration is your PG/VG ratio. PG is a thin liquid that helps carry flavor, it also enhances the thump you feel in the back of your throat (throat hit). VG is a thick liquid that helps produce the vapor you see on the exhale and helps sweeten the flavor and smooth out the hit. This is all personal prefrence. Many people have thier perfered ratio but for a beginer I recommend starting at 50/50 and adjusting from there.

    The last consideration on liquid is the nicotine level. These are expressed in MG or Miligrams. This is a mesurement of miligrams of nicotine per militeter of liquid. The amount you will need will vary depending on how heavy of a smoker you were and the type of device you are using and the type of tank you are using but some basic guidlines for a pack to 2 pack a day smoker are:
    Below 30 watts: 12-18 mg
    Above 30 watts: 6-12 mg
     
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    Battery chargers for internal batteries:
    If you do not open up your device to take out the batteries this is the type of charger you need. Many of these will be a Micro USB connector. There are a few important things to remember about this but for the most part it is simply hooking up the cord and waiting for it to charge.
    Important things to remember:
    1: COMPUTER PORTS CAN BE HIGH AMPERAGE! Sometimes when charging on a computer USB port it can overload the battery inside of the device and cause it to stop working or worse.
    2: NOT ALL WALL ADAPTERS ARE THE SAME AMPERAGE! Much like computer USB ports some wall adapters charge at 2 amps or above. Please make sure you are only using a wall adapter that is the correct amp rating for your device.
    3: CAR CHARGING WILL HEAT UP THE DEVICE! One of the most dangerous things you can do is leave these devices unattended in your car charging in the summer. The excesive heat can make the batteries fail or potentially worse.

    Battery chargers for external batteries:
    If you pull the cell out of your device to charge it this is your type of charger. They will plug into the wall and generally have between 1 to 4 bays for charging in them. Often this is a spring loaded clip but some chargers such as some xstar chargers use spacers. When purchasing your first charger I can not stress enough that this is an investment. Going with the cheap one bay charger may seem like a good deal at first but they often will damage batteries over time. The battery charger is one thing you will rarely upgrade if at all once you get a good charger. Good chargers can be had very inexpensivly. Some examples of good chargers are the Efest LUC4 charger, the Nitecore I4, the Nitecore D4, the Xstar VP4 charger. A cheap charger may run you $10, the LUC4 charger was $25 when I bought it.
     
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    Final thoughts (Will finish later)
     
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