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Whiskey

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LOL, yeah....but I cheated....I decided to forego wrapping and bought some premade, but hey....not bad for my first shot (single coil)

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AndriaD

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LOL, yeah....but I cheated....I decided to forego wrapping and bought some premade, but hey....not bad for my first shot (single coil)

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Well hell, you wicked it -- THAT is the hard part, not the wrapping-wire-around-something! I got the wrapping part down in about 2 tries... took 2-3 months to get really good at getting the "just right" amount.

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Whiskey

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I have to ask: Are the coils worth it? I have the coils on my "to order" list.
The ones I just got from FT are feeling on the thin side (28g) but do-able, but as I get into it more I have a feeling I am going to want heavier wire pre mades. I haven't gotten my order of coils from coil master yet.
 

AndriaD

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I may try wrapping my own at some point, what gauge wire do you use?

29ga; it's almost as fast as 30ga, and almost as sturdy as 28ga -- perfect compromise, IMO. I used to use 7 wraps, got coils around 1.6-1.7 ohms. Nowadays I use 9 wraps, which gives me coils just a smidge over 2 ohms. I use a 3/32 drillbit.

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I use 28 for mom's subtank. 1.4ish coils.

Me 24 ga.

Cotton bacon is meh for the wick, holds a ton but going to test it against the muji.
 

Whiskey

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29ga; it's almost as fast as 30ga, and almost as sturdy as 28ga -- perfect compromise, IMO. I used to use 7 wraps, got coils around 1.6-1.7 ohms. Nowadays I use 9 wraps, which gives me coils just a smidge over 2 ohms. I use a 3/32 drillbit.

Andria
I use 28 for mom's subtank. 1.4ish coils.

Me 24 ga.

Cotton bacon is meh for the wick, holds a ton but going to test it against the muji.
Thanks for the great hints!!!!
 

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Just my own personal opinion, but I really prefer Shiseido cotton for wicking. It's pure white, so it's easy to tell when it gets gunked, and also easy to tell, when you pull an old wick, if there was any burning going on -- if it returns to pure white when rinsed in running water, even where the wick was inside the coil, then there's zero burning, so it was wicked perfectly. It's slightly less expensive than ko gen doh, and has the shortest breakin period of any cotton I've tried -- maybe 2-3 hits, then just pure vaporized ejuice goodness. Nordstrom's has it, and they offer free shipping.

Andria
 

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Even if you build your own it's fine to buy pre made.
If for example you want very complex coils that are beyond you capabilities or that you are able but find out that the pre made are just as good as yours and don't cost that much.

Personally I prefer rolls of pre made coils that can then be wrapped with the number of wraps and ID that I like.
They comes in different qualities, I like the ones made by Geekvape and the ones by UD are not bad either.
 

Whiskey

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Even if you build your own it's fine to buy pre made.
If for example you want very complex coils that are beyond you capabilities or that you are able but find out that the pre made are just as good as yours and don't cost that much.

Personally I prefer rolls of pre made coils that can then be wrapped with the number of wraps and ID that I like.
They comes in different qualities, I like the ones made by Geekvape and the ones by UD are not bad either.
Oh wow, you mean instead of wire on the roll, that they come in strands?
 

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As for complex builds, there are high quality hand made coils like this one (some guys in VU sell their coils):
And there are mass produced coils like this one:
http://www.heavengifts.com/GeekVape-Prebuilt-Fused-Clapton-Coil.html

Is it the same type of coil? Yes.
Are they the same quality? No far from it, but that's why one costs 30-40$ and the other 4$

Personally i can go as far as making my own fused claptons, but this one is beyond my capabilities and patience.
 

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The ones I just got from FT are feeling on the thin side (28g) but do-able, but as I get into it more I have a feeling I am going to want heavier wire pre mades. I haven't gotten my order of coils from coil master yet.
I have 28 wire so I might play around with it first. I really don't have the patience but will have to get into the "mindset" of making coils.
 

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Is it the same type of coil? Yes.
Are they the same quality? No far from it, but that's why one costs 30-40$ and the other 4$
Thank you!

It's like I tell people - You can buy your shampoo at the dollar store, or you can get it from a high end salon. Some people don't need (or can't afford) anything more than what the dollar store has to offer. That's fine - with some folks, that's all they need. But others prefer a much higher quality shampoo, and are willing to pay for it. Is it necessary? Absolutely not. But neither is vaping. Is it worth it? Absolutely! As long as you have a decent quality mod (or even a mediocre one), you can enjoy and appreciate both the bold and subtle nuances that a high quality coil will give to your vaping experience. Trust me, there's a reason why people are willing to pay a premium price for a high quality coil.

I'll stop now, because I'll end up writing a book if I keep going... :D
 

Whiskey

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My next build will be on a serpent mini & Nectar, I'll get pic's put up of those as I can:):)
 

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I know this is late, but for mtl, I stick with 28 or 26 ... either ss316 or Kanthal.

When the legs are going to be longer I wrap the screw head to help ad rigidity and dry burn the coil at low power to temper and strengthen the metal a little.
 

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I haven't gotten my order of coils from coil master yet.

Hey Whiskey,

I saw the link you posted on another thread and ordered a box too. I'm just assuming you ordered the 1.5's, any idea what the gauge and ID are for them? They only show pictures of the .4 and .6 box.
 

Whiskey

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Hey Whiskey,

I saw the link you posted on another thread and ordered a box too. I'm just assuming you ordered the 1.5's, any idea what the gauge and ID are for them? They only show pictures of the .4 and .6 box.
Coil Master Pre-built A1 Wire (#C06.0533)
Gauge: 1.5/100pcs
 

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Coil Master Pre-built A1 Wire (#C06.0533)
Gauge: 1.5/100pcs

Aww I was hoping you might know the wire gauge and inside diameter of the coils.

How are you liking the draw on the Serpent mini?
 

Whiskey

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Aww I was hoping you might know the wire gauge and inside diameter of the coils.

How are you liking the draw on the Serpent mini?
I can close it almost right down, LOVE that, great MTL draw and awesome flavor, Let me get back up on Coilmasters site to see if they say the gauge on those coils better.
 

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Haha, I hear ya. I'm right there with you. I have a kayfun mini v3 in the mail that I'm dying to try out.
 

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What cotton you using Whiskey?
If you have not tried muji let me know I have a pile and would be willing to send ya some.
 

Whiskey

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Build another Nectar, which is proving to be my got to tank right now.

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Got the cotton Nasty (thanks again), now to wick it
 

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