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ej1024

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this is a follow up threaD, it was very interesting to see how the majority of VAPERS don't want potential VAPERS to VAPE... Why???
SAY IT HERE...


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this is a follow up threaD, it was very interesting to see how the majority of VAPERS don't want potential VAPERS to VAPE... Why???
SAY IT HERE...


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Because he isn't a cigarette smoker that's trying to quit smoking. He's asking for opinions on if he should start vaping because he thinks coil building is interesting, that's why.
 

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Because he isn't a cigarette smoker that's trying to quit smoking. He's asking for opinions on if he should start vaping because he thinks coil building is interesting, that's why.
 

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been vaping 4 years now and have at least 10x100ml diy on the go at anygiven time and also buy via vendors
all nic contents differ 0-20 usually i dont look at nic content anymore so do i still have nic addiction or am i a habitual vaper
 

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I'm sorry, but when these young punks go out and buy all this gear and don't know the first thing to do with it because they just wanna "look cool," it pisses me off. I didn't start vaping to look cool. Nor did the majority of you. To me, it makes a mockery of what we've accomplished.
 

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hi teresa i am in the uk and am not seeing young people taking to vaping [ so far ]
do you think its going to start trending in the states for the teens.[ got to be better than smoking ]
so cant be a bad thing as long as tobacco sales keep falling
 

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If they aren't taking up smoking to look "cool," why would they take up vaping? There are way too many hobbies to take up, why vaping?
And no, I personally don't see it as a trend here, but others may argue. Kids are gonna do stupid things anywhere you go....
 

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I'm sorry, but when these young punks go out and buy all this gear and don't know the first thing to do with it because they just wanna "look cool," it pisses me off. I didn't start vaping to look cool. Nor did the majority of you. To me, it makes a mockery of what we've accomplished.
worse yet their stupid childish antics trying to blow the biggest cloud they can is turning the general public against vaping seeing it not at a smoking cessation tool, but as an obnoxious fad embraced by childeren, being pushed by blood suckers trying to make a quick buck....all this will lead to draconian regulations...so that the rights and freedoms of resoponsible adults trying to get off smoking will be stripped in order to protect morons raised by other morons from killing themselves and innocent bystanders.
 

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I'm sorry, the term "It takes a village to raise a child" is complete bullshit to me. You had 'em, you raise 'em. I can see putting age restrictions on a lot of things - smoking, drinking, driving, even porn - but to make a majority suffer because you won't control your kids is complete BS.
 

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I agree with the other posters.

Vaping originally started as a smoking cessation method, and I'm sure a vast majority of current vapers are former smokers. Although the growth and advancement of vaping has attracted non-smokers as well. Which does make sense to me, especially when it comes to things like conventions.
 

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I'm sorry, but when these young punks go out and buy all this gear and don't know the first thing to do with it because they just wanna "look cool," it pisses me off. I didn't start vaping to look cool. Nor did the majority of you. To me, it makes a mockery of what we've accomplished.
Amen..............
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I did not start vaping because I was a smoker and I find the distain for non smokers is ridiculous. My wife was a smoker when we first met and honestly it was the only thing about her that I did not like. The smell of cigarettes on her clothes and in our house was disgusting but the biggest reason I hated the smoking is that I saw what it did to my father who was a 3-4 pack a day smoker all my life. His quality of life as he grew older with lung disease and cancer was very limited at best. My wife went to a counselor who hypnotized her and she quit within a week. It was a great sucess story and I was so proud of her. We have been married 22 years and approximately 2 years ago our son who was Bi-Polar took his own life. We were devestated and honestly I can't describe how life changing it was. My wife started to smoke occasionally just to chill her out and honestly for the first time in my life, I even comtemplated smoking to help with the anxiety and stress. That was when I discovered vaping. I got my wife one of the pen types and I started vaping along with her. I was amazed at how much vaping helped my anxiety and nervousness even though our nic level was never more than 6mg. I was on a business trip and walked into a vape store out of curiosity and was introduced to sub ohm vaping. That was what really started my obsession with vaping, coil building, and DIY juice. I got my wife into sub ohm vaping and we now both vape 1mg nic DIY juice. It has developed into a hobby as well as a means to relax even if it is just the act of having something to do when I am feeling anxious or nervous. Would I have started vaping if my son had not died, probably not, but I do see the benefits of vaping for other than just to quit smoking. Would I recommend that someone get into vaping just as a hobby to build coils and stuff, probably not but who am I to judge. We all have reasons for vaping and mine may not be the same as yours but I am 62 years old and I came into vaping knowing the risks and weighed them against the benefits and have continued to vape. Before you throw people under the bus for being a non-smoker, consider that as an adult we all make choices, some bad and some good but we do have that right to choose as long as we are not hurting anyone but ourselves. I am a scuba diver and that has risks but I am willing to take those risks for the benefit I get from it. I would not skydive because it scares the crap out of me but if you are an adult and want to pursue that as your hobby then who am I to judge. Sorry for the long response but if I choose to vape for my reasons and not for yours then who are you to judge.
 

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I don't think people are judging, really. Most of this was related to another post where an 18 yr old non-smoker wanted opinions from people in this forum as to whether or not he should take up vaping. His reasoning was because he thought building coils is interesting.

So, when a person that doesn't smoke comes here and asks, then a lot of people are going to say "No, don't start".
 

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Very interesting, non smoker became a VAPER?
How is that different from a teenager that wants to VAPE even if they never smoke, do you really have to be a smoker to be a VAPER? Or the nicotine has a calming effect that attracts people to VAPE? Hmmmmm.... Pescadore started VAPING because it relieved the STRESS, maybe VAPING is just not a tool to quit stinkies, maybe it has a calming effect to people under stress?? Is it psychological? MAYBE!!


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Very interesting, non smoker became a VAPER?
How is that different from a teenager that wants to VAPE even if they never smoke, do you really have to be a smoker to be a VAPER? Or the nicotine has a calming effect that attracts people to VAPE? Hmmmmm.... Pescadore started VAPING because it relieved the STRESS, maybe VAPING is just not a tool to quit stinkies, maybe it has a calming effect to people under stress?? Is it psychological? MAYBE!!


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Could be, but my point revolves around the young punk assholes who get into it for no other reason than to look like something they're not.
 

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Could be, but my point revolves around the young punk assholes who get into it for no other reason than to look like something they're not.
I agree those punks give us a bad rep!!
Pescadore case is very different though don't you think?? When I'm stress I resort to the bottlesome folks uses *********, some jog, gym, eat.... Etcccc but he VAPEd.. Wow


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Very interesting, non smoker became a VAPER?
How is that different from a teenager that wants to VAPE even if they never smoke, do you really have to be a smoker to be a VAPER? Or the nicotine has a calming effect that attracts people to VAPE? Hmmmmm.... Pescadore started VAPING because it relieved the STRESS, maybe VAPING is just not a tool to quit stinkies, maybe it has a calming effect to people under stress?? Is it psychological? MAYBE!!


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But the thread that prompted your reason to start this thread wasn't in regard to someone going through a life changing struggle. He wanted opinions from vapers and had a reason of basically thinking it looked cool.

I understand where Pescadore is coming from, and I'm terribly sorry for his loss. It does change your life, I've been in those shoes, myself. I'd honestly rather see someone take up vaping, than to turn to alcohol or drugs to handle stress. He treated his anxiety with low levels of nicotine. I get that. We're talking about an 18yr old that wasn't even what I'd call a social smoker that asked for opinions. We gave them. We're allowed to have different opinions. And as it turned out, kiddo is gonna do what kiddo wants to do.

You asked "why" vapers discouraged this kid from vaping. We're saying "why".
 

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I agree those punks give us a bad rep!!
Pescadore case is very different though don't you think?? When I'm stress I resort to the bottlesome folks uses *********, some jog, gym, eat.... Etcccc but he VAPEd.. Wow


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I think I made my point in that in my last post. Put away the Lynch mob.
 

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Very interesting, non smoker became a VAPER?
How is that different from a teenager that wants to VAPE even if they never smoke, do you really have to be a smoker to be a VAPER? Or the nicotine has a calming effect that attracts people to VAPE? Hmmmmm.... Pescadore started VAPING because it relieved the STRESS, maybe VAPING is just not a tool to quit stinkies, maybe it has a calming effect to people under stress?? Is it psychological? MAYBE!!


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It's pretty simple, there are obnoxious vapers out there that create a bad stigma behind the whole thing. Many people in this community dislike those people. I'm also one of those that was never hooked on cigarettes but smoked other stuff rolled up and I found I was more addicted to the act of smoking than that product. So substituting vaping allowed me to still get that "smoking" feel and I've been off that for over a year now.

Now as for these people vaping to look cool. Vaping is 21st century smoking, and regardless of how often it's said, smoking is cool. You wouldn't have to have ad campaigns saying the opposite if it wasn't true. So it's no surprise people find vaping cool. But, it should be expected that just like actual smoking people are telling the next generation to stay away as even though it's far less harmful than cigarettes, it's still an unnecessary harm.
 

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Speaking as a mother of two teens that although show zero interest in putting anything into their bodies, I will have to say that if they wanted to look cool and it came down to them picking up a cig or a vape with 0 nicotine I would go buy them the vape myself. JMHO
 

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I did not start vaping because I was a smoker and I find the distain for non smokers is ridiculous. My wife was a smoker when we first met and honestly it was the only thing about her that I did not like. The smell of cigarettes on her clothes and in our house was disgusting but the biggest reason I hated the smoking is that I saw what it did to my father who was a 3-4 pack a day smoker all my life. His quality of life as he grew older with lung disease and cancer was very limited at best. My wife went to a counselor who hypnotized her and she quit within a week. It was a great sucess story and I was so proud of her. We have been married 22 years and approximately 2 years ago our son who was Bi-Polar took his own life. We were devestated and honestly I can't describe how life changing it was. My wife started to smoke occasionally just to chill her out and honestly for the first time in my life, I even comtemplated smoking to help with the anxiety and stress. That was when I discovered vaping. I got my wife one of the pen types and I started vaping along with her. I was amazed at how much vaping helped my anxiety and nervousness even though our nic level was never more than 6mg. I was on a business trip and walked into a vape store out of curiosity and was introduced to sub ohm vaping. That was what really started my obsession with vaping, coil building, and DIY juice. I got my wife into sub ohm vaping and we now both vape 1mg nic DIY juice. It has developed into a hobby as well as a means to relax even if it is just the act of having something to do when I am feeling anxious or nervous. Would I have started vaping if my son had not died, probably not, but I do see the benefits of vaping for other than just to quit smoking. Would I recommend that someone get into vaping just as a hobby to build coils and stuff, probably not but who am I to judge. We all have reasons for vaping and mine may not be the same as yours but I am 62 years old and I came into vaping knowing the risks and weighed them against the benefits and have continued to vape. Before you throw people under the bus for being a non-smoker, consider that as an adult we all make choices, some bad and some good but we do have that right to choose as long as we are not hurting anyone but ourselves. I am a scuba diver and that has risks but I am willing to take those risks for the benefit I get from it. I would not skydive because it scares the crap out of me but if you are an adult and want to pursue that as your hobby then who am I to judge. Sorry for the long response but if I choose to vape for my reasons and not for yours then who are you to judge.
Condolences on your son, that is very sad.
 

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yeah...well...posing as a drug addict to look cool is just fucking stupid....if you're not addicted to nicotine don't vape.
Hey, pulsevape: There's something new out there! It's called "zero-nic e-liquid!" That's right: You can actually buy e-liquid that has zero nicotine!

I think that's just amazing, don't you?

As for "Who should vape?" Whomever wishes to do so, and for whatever reason they wish.
 

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Anybody of age that wants to vape, can vape. Their reasons are their own. It's a personal choice. Period.

Nicotine has it's benefits.

I didn't see the thread, but I'd tell an 18 year old that coil building is very basic and simple. Boring shit. It might be fun for a minute but it's really stupid for a hobby. Do something that you can progress through from basic to advanced like speaker building/design, amateur radio, rc cars/planes or something. But coil building? PFFFFFT. A vaper can take pride in coil building as it pertains to his/her vaping cause they have to do it anyway, nothing wrong with that, but getting into it for no other reason than to wrap wire is a bit silly.
 

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People bring up nicotine in the topic.

But where is it written that a non-smoker taking up vaping *has* to use liquid with nicotine? They could just use 0 nic liquid.
This is something that many seem to not take into consideration. It's always something along the lines of "if you've never smoked, don't vape. No reason to start taking nicotine, stay healthy".
 

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People bring up nicotine in the topic.

But where is it written that a non-smoker taking up vaping *has* to use liquid with nicotine? They could just use 0 nic liquid.
This is something that many seem to not take into consideration. It's always something along the lines of "if you've never smoked, don't vape. No reason to start taking nicotine, stay healthy".
True, though the person in question mentioned smoking on occasion so I think it's safe to assume nicotine would be involved.

ps. you either misspelled 'order' or 'odor' on your signature :p
 

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I didn't see the thread, but I'd tell an 18 year old that coil building is very basic and simple. Boring shit. It might be fun for a minute but it's really stupid for a hobby.
In your opinion. I expect somebody like CrazyChef might dispute that.

But coil building? PFFFFFT. A vaper can take pride in coil building as it pertains to his/her vaping cause they have to do it anyway, nothing wrong with that, but getting into it for no other reason than to wrap wire is a bit silly.
In your opinion. Personally: I'm a bit in awe of some of the wire and coils I see people building. I wouldn't invest that effort in such a past time--simple twists are about the limit of the investment I'm willing to go, but I can see how others might enjoy it. And, yes: Take pride in their results.

True, though the person in question mentioned smoking on occasion so I think it's safe to assume nicotine would be involved.
Smoking "on occasion" probably doesn't constitute much of a nic addiction, IMO.
 

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True, though the person in question mentioned smoking on occasion so I think it's safe to assume nicotine would be involved.
Smoking "on occasion" probably doesn't constitute much of a nic addiction, IMO.

If I recall, while the guy did say he smoked on occasion, he also said he wasn't addicted to nicotine and could go months without a cig.
 

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He's good now.

And yeah, he might not of used nicotine just saying it's a safe assumption. Though the saying "don't assume, it makes an ass out of u and me" fits :D

Either way, if coilbuilding is his interest, he can do that with or without vaping. And if he sees the stuff that Chef/Raymo/Scarecrow/etc make as a goal, well jewelry making might be another option, find a pretty girl (or guy) to give it to.

Either way do what you want, taking your choices from polls of random opinions on the internet is a bit silly. With that I support my "no" vote as I'd answer that to any "should I do ..." question posed in such a manner. If you need people's support on the choice you probably shouldn't do it.
 

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I think people should do whatever they feel like doing for whatever reason they see fit. Who gives a shit if they smoked or didnt smoke?
Hows a dude trying to do that clouds bro thing affecting any of you anyway?
This isnt some exclusives club.... its something anyone can do, regardless of why.

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Could be, but my point revolves around the young punk assholes who get into it for no other reason than to look like something they're not.

I understand your point that "looking cool" is not really a good reason to put something in your body that may or may not be safe. When I was young it was considered "cool" to smoke cigarettes or other stuff. I know or have known alot of people that started smoking to be cool and ended up with a nicotine addiction or worse. The best thing is just to not do anything that could be harmful to your body but they are coming up with something new that causes cancer or could cause cancer at an alarming rate so what do you choose to do and what do you give up. My only point was that there is more than one reason that someone might choose to vape and if they are an adult and not doing anything illegal or harmful to others then that is their freedom to do so. Funny that it seems the older I get the more young punk assholes there are.
 

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Too many gazers trying to rationalize other peoples lives.

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Hmmmm
VAPERS that don't CARE and VAPERS that CARE... Yup there's 2 kinds!!


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I understand your point that "looking cool" is not really a good reason to put something in your body that may or may not be safe. When I was young it was considered "cool" to smoke cigarettes or other stuff. I know or have known alot of people that started smoking to be cool and ended up with a nicotine addiction or worse. The best thing is just to not do anything that could be harmful to your body but they are coming up with something new that causes cancer or could cause cancer at an alarming rate so what do you choose to do and what do you give up. My only point was that there is more than one reason that someone might choose to vape and if they are an adult and not doing anything illegal or harmful to others then that is their freedom to do so. Funny that it seems the older I get the more young punk assholes there are.
I don't necessarily think there are more, I just think our tolerance of them is much lower....lol! And when I was younger, I thought anyone who felt that way was an "old fart." Now, guess what....I'm an old fart....LOL!
And you're right, something is killing us every day. And I still don't think anyone in the medical field knows what causes cancer. When I was little, my grandmother kept toilet paper in the bathroom that was pretty colors or had colored patterns on it. They did away with that because it was thought that the dyes caused cancer. Okay, now all our toilet paper is white, but there's still cancer. So many things that are suspect of causing this dreaded disease are being removed from the market, but there's still cancer. And people who have never smoked a day in their lives are dying of lung cancer. I just think our chances of not getting lung cancer are better with vaping.
My heartfelt sympathies to you over your tragedy, dear sir. I cannot even fathom what you and your wife have had to live through.....
 

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I did not start vaping because I was a smoker and I find the distain for non smokers is ridiculous. My wife was a smoker when we first met and honestly it was the only thing about her that I did not like. The smell of cigarettes on her clothes and in our house was disgusting but the biggest reason I hated the smoking is that I saw what it did to my father who was a 3-4 pack a day smoker all my life. His quality of life as he grew older with lung disease and cancer was very limited at best. My wife went to a counselor who hypnotized her and she quit within a week. It was a great sucess story and I was so proud of her. We have been married 22 years and approximately 2 years ago our son who was Bi-Polar took his own life. We were devestated and honestly I can't describe how life changing it was. My wife started to smoke occasionally just to chill her out and honestly for the first time in my life, I even comtemplated smoking to help with the anxiety and stress. That was when I discovered vaping. I got my wife one of the pen types and I started vaping along with her. I was amazed at how much vaping helped my anxiety and nervousness even though our nic level was never more than 6mg. I was on a business trip and walked into a vape store out of curiosity and was introduced to sub ohm vaping. That was what really started my obsession with vaping, coil building, and DIY juice. I got my wife into sub ohm vaping and we now both vape 1mg nic DIY juice. It has developed into a hobby as well as a means to relax even if it is just the act of having something to do when I am feeling anxious or nervous. Would I have started vaping if my son had not died, probably not, but I do see the benefits of vaping for other than just to quit smoking. Would I recommend that someone get into vaping just as a hobby to build coils and stuff, probably not but who am I to judge. We all have reasons for vaping and mine may not be the same as yours but I am 62 years old and I came into vaping knowing the risks and weighed them against the benefits and have continued to vape. Before you throw people under the bus for being a non-smoker, consider that as an adult we all make choices, some bad and some good but we do have that right to choose as long as we are not hurting anyone but ourselves. I am a scuba diver and that has risks but I am willing to take those risks for the benefit I get from it. I would not skydive because it scares the crap out of me but if you are an adult and want to pursue that as your hobby then who am I to judge. Sorry for the long response but if I choose to vape for my reasons and not for yours then who are you to judge.
I would say if you are not already addicted to any drug including nicotine it is far healther for you to relieve your anxiety through masturbation rather than vaping.
 

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LOL. Vapers telling people they shouldn't vape. :rolleyes:

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Why the fuck not I was a smoker and caught my much younger brother smoking took him out behind the wood shed and was able to convince him not to smoke...to this day he thanks me...I wish to god some smoker would have stopped me from smoking...same goes with vaping ...suck shit into your lungs isn't good for you.
 

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I think people should do whatever they feel like doing for whatever reason they see fit. Who gives a shit if they smoked or didnt smoke?
Hows a dude trying to do that clouds bro thing affecting any of you anyway?
This isnt some exclusives club.... its something anyone can do, regardless of why.

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about as classy as hauling around one of those Mc nugget tanks and a mod that looks like a tonka truck....think that looks "classy"...after burying friends and family from drug addictions of all varities there is no good drug to be addicted to.....besides plenty of classy people masturbate...
 

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