Why does it taste so different?

[HondaDavidson]

Why does juice taste so different in different atties?

I have 3 atties all with the identicle .6 ohm 2x30 ss twisted coil all running at same setting on mod.. pico75 TCR 85 at 18 watts ... temp setting do various by atty. VW mod used mostly is a curve starting at150% dropping to 90% over 3 seconds wattage at 13 to 15....

The atties are a Avocado22, Serpent Alto and Origin Genesis....... juice is a tobacco blend. And each atty brings a different ingredient to the front...... the Avocado bring the dominant flavor of Latakia.... the Serpent the brings Virginia forward and the Origin Brings the fire cure Virginia forward. Total flavor is about 15% with the Latakia at 8% VIRGINIA at 5% Perique black at1.5% and the fire cure at .5%.....

1 bottle and I swear it tastes like 3 of single flavor juices.

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[5150sick]

The difference in atomizers could make the liquid taste different.
Some flavors are sharper or duller.

 

[Clapton]

A different mod can also give a different flavour because of different batteries and chipsets. You get different charts for your wattage on different mods. Regulated or mechanical.. all small differences result in flavour shapes. Not to forget the coil in different heights in the also different airflow (and airflow setting) of every atomizer.

In my first weeks in vaping I never thought that it could be such a bunch of important parameters.

 

[The Cromwell]

Different coil temperatures and airflow will bring out different notes in many juices.

 

[Neunerball]

A different mod can also give a different flavour because of different batteries and chipsets. You get different charts for your wattage on different mods. Regulated or mechanical.. all small differences result in flavour shapes. Not to forget the coil in different heights in the also different airflow (and airflow setting) of every atomizer.

In my first weeks in vaping I never thought that it could be such a bunch of important parameters.

Different coil temperatures and airflow will bring out different notes in many juices.

+1
However, the difference in the shape of the atty's chamber also has an influence.

 

[SkoldVape]

+1
However, the difference in the shape of the atty's chamber also has an influence.

I was about to say this! A smaller chamber seems to give a more intense flavour and a 22mm tends to be more natural than say something bigger like a 24

 

[Just Frank]

Not to forget the coil in different heights in the also different airflow (and airflow setting) of every atomizer.

I want to know more about the height of coils effecting flavor. I use Griffin RTAs of different varieties. In your experience, what height would give a better flavor. I usually keep the level to the posts. I never really thought to run em low or high.

 

[SkoldVape]

I want to know more about the height of coils effecting flavor. I use Griffin RTAs of different varieties. In your experience, what height would give a better flavor. I usually keep the level to the posts. I never really thought to run em low or high.

Coil closest to coil gives good flavour but also close to the airhole gives good flavour so having it level to the posts is middle ground so tbh I think you've nailed the positioning. I'm also a Griffin user btw so this is first hand experience

 

[Zamazam]

1. Airflow
2. Density of Vapor
3. Temperature of the coils
4. Chamber size

 

[The Cromwell]

+1
However, the difference in the shape of the atty's chamber also has an influence.

Yep, kinda covered by airflow.
Shape and size of chamber, location of coils/air jets, etc

 

[AndriaD]

I want to know more about the height of coils effecting flavor. I use Griffin RTAs of different varieties. In your experience, what height would give a better flavor. I usually keep the level to the posts. I never really thought to run em low or high.

What I've heard is that if you build lower, closer to the airhole, you get more flavor; higher, closer to your mouth, you get more TH. But I pretty much always use bottom airflow atties, to which that applies; not sure how height would affect the taste in some other airflow arrangement.

Andria

 

[SkoldVape]

What I've heard is that if you build lower, closer to the airhole, you get more flavor; higher, closer to your mouth, you get more TH. But I pretty much always use bottom airflow atties, to which that applies; not sure how height would affect the taste in some other airflow arrangement.

Andria

You are totally correct. Closer to the airhole gives more flavour

 

[Neunerball]

I was about to say this! A smaller chamber seems to give a more intense flavour and a 22mm tends to be more natural than say something bigger like a 24

I have to disappoint you. I have an original Castor RDA by Fog Monsterz for a 26650 mod, it has a 30 mm diameter. It's design of the chamber, and it's airflow, makes for an excellent flavor RDA. However, it can also chuck some awesome clouds.

 

[Neunerball]

You are totally correct. Closer to the airhole gives more flavour

IMHO, as @Zamazam indicated, it's about the density of the vapor. Less about the airflow. However, depending on your coil(s), you might need to provide more airflow, in order to keep the temperature to what's needed, in order to provide the right "environment" your eJuice needs for best flavor.
Overall though, it's try and error, to find the proper atty and build, that provides the experience, you're looking for.

 

[SkoldVape]

I have to disappoint you. I have an original Castor RDA by Fog Monsterz for a 26650 mod, it has a 30 mm diameter. It's design of the chamber, and it's airflow, makes for an excellent flavor RDA. However, it can also chuck some awesome clouds.

I have used 30mm that link the shit out of 22mm attys. I just think a 22mm is more natural and it's all preference

 

[SkoldVape]

IMHO, as @Zamazam indicated, it's about the density of the vapor. Less about the airflow. However, depending on your coil(s), you might need to provide more airflow, in order to keep the temperature to what's needed, in order to provide the right "environment" your eJuice needs for best flavor.
Overall though, it's try and error, to find the proper atty and build, that provides the experience, you're looking for.

It is about the density yes but you can't say airflow doesn't affect flavour

 

[Neunerball]

It is about the density yes but you can't say airflow doesn't affect flavour

As mentioned, "...However, depending on your coil(s), you might need to provide more airflow, in order to keep the temperature to what's needed, in order to provide the right "environment" your eJuice needs for best flavor...."

 

[HondaDavidson]

Different coil temperatures and airflow will bring out different notes in many juices.

In my case coils are all same 2x30ss twisted at .6ohm and settings used on mods also same. Airflow is set to give pretty much the same draws. heck I'm even using the drip tip on all three tanks. I think it comes down to the differences in shape and size of chambers and the path the air takes and coil position. in relation to flow.

 

[The Cromwell]

In my case coils are all same 2x30ss twisted at .6ohm and settings used on mods also same. Airflow is set to give pretty much the same draws. heck I'm even using the drip tip on all three tanks. I think it comes down to the differences in shape and size of chambers and the path the air takes and coil position. in relation to flow.

As I said airflow.
Not just the amount but the path as well and the intensity it hits the coil at, etc.

for example you can have a small chamber and cut the AFC down to about nothing, but if the air hole hitting the coil is not small it will not be a good tight MTL vape even if the airflow is butthole tight.

 

[SkoldVape]

In my case coils are all same 2x30ss twisted at .6ohm and settings used on mods also same. Airflow is set to give pretty much the same draws. heck I'm even using the drip tip on all three tanks. I think it comes down to the differences in shape and size of chambers and the path the air takes and coil position. in relation to flow.

Drip tips play a huge part and suprised no one has mentioned that yet!

 

[AndriaD]

As I said airflow.
Not just the amount but the path as well and the intensity it hits the coil at, etc.

for example you can have a small chamber and cut the AFC down to about nothing, but if the air hole hitting the coil is not small it will not be a good tight MTL vape even if the airflow is butthole tight.

Absolutely true. If you want a tight draw, look at the inner airhole; if it's more than about 1.2mm, you will not get a good tight draw, no matter what you do to the external airflow. It'll feel like drinking an imaginary drink thru an empty straw.

Andria

 

[The Cromwell]

Absolutely true. If you want a tight draw, look at the inner airhole; if it's more than about 1.2mm, you will not get a good tight draw, no matter what you do to the external airflow. It'll feel like drinking an imaginary drink thru an empty straw.

Andria

yeah the Busardo/Dimitri 'MTL' atty with the pepper shaker air flow under the coil will never give a good tight MTL vape.
A loose MTL yes, but not a true tight MTL vape.
Busardo has moved on past tight MTL vaping.

 

[Zohmbiebuilds]

+1
However, the difference in the shape of the atty's chamber also has an influence.

Yup, rounded shapes, or conical shapes, and small size have so much to do with it.

If there is a "ceiling" instead of a dome, your flavor won't be as intense.

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[Neunerball]

As unimportant as it may sound, the drip tip also has an influence of the flavor. Depending on what you're going for, besides the size, and shape of the chamber, a drip tip with a smaller ID, might improve flavor as well. Again, this also has to do with airflow.
All about try and error!