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LaughingWarrior

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OK... I've been lurking for a few days, and read many threads in this forum. I've browsed the threads/charts posted by Mooch (which remind me of serious work done by technical gurus on other hobby forums I frequent).

I think there's a certain gap in my understanding, so here goes...

For my ADV, I use an eVic VTC Dual with Triton 2 tanks, 0.3 ohm SS316 coils on TC mode, with EFest 3500MAh batteries. My settings show 9-12A outputs, so I think I have no problems there.

For fun, my new toy is a Smok Alien with a TFV8 tank... you know, so when a scary scene comes on while watching a movie, I can fog out the living room so I don't have nightmares.

The sweet spot seems to be at about 110W. I have 2 sets of batteries for it; a pair of Samsung 25R and a pair of AWT 3000MAh. According to Mooch's charts, both of these are recommended to use at 25A or below.

With my settings on the Beast, the display shows ≈27.4A at 4.27V. My draws run around 3-4 seconds.

What I don't quite understand is the voltage: the batteries are marked as 3.7V... in this mod, are the batteries run in series or parallel?

Am I going to make a small mushroom cloud appear where my address used to be, or no?

I live in a place called Fort McMurray, and the last thing I need to do is burn a bunch of the houses here down, again.
 

SirRichardRear

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OK... I've been lurking for a few days, and read many threads in this forum. I've browsed the threads/charts posted by Mooch (which remind me of serious work done by technical gurus on other hobby forums I frequent).

I think there's a certain gap in my understanding, so here goes...

For my ADV, I use an eVic VTC Dual with Triton 2 tanks, 0.3 ohm SS316 coils on TC mode, with EFest 3500MAh batteries. My settings show 9-12A outputs, so I think I have no problems there.

For fun, my new toy is a Smok Alien with a TFV8 tank... you know, so when a scary scene comes on while watching a movie, I can fog out the living room so I don't have nightmares.

The sweet spot seems to be at about 110W. I have 2 sets of batteries for it; a pair of Samsung 25R and a pair of AWT 3000MAh. According to Mooch's charts, both of these are recommended to use at 25A or below.

With my settings on the Beast, the display shows ≈27.4A at 4.27V. My draws run around 3-4 seconds.

What I don't quite understand is the voltage: the batteries are marked as 3.7V... in this mod, are the batteries run in series or parallel?

Am I going to make a small mushroom cloud appear where my address used to be, or no?

I live in a place called Fort McMurray, and the last thing I need to do is burn a bunch of the houses here down, again.
I made this video which should explain alot of it. It's a good watch


If u want a short answer ditch the non samsung batteries and keep it 150 or less on a dual battery mod and you'll be fine. For regulated mods it's power/battery voltage/ board efficiency = amp draw.

So 110 watts at say low batts 3.2 volts each and a 90% efficient chip would be
110/6.4/.9 = 19 amps from the batteries.

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without reading the OP. my new fav answer to most questions that have already been answered.
If you have to ask then maybe Read some more :D
or if i am in a bad mood if you have to ask then yes.
 

LaughingWarrior

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^^ This worries me. ^^
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I partly got my "Beast" tank, because in May of last year, a wildfire that our Fire Chief named "The Beast" rolled right through our small city, and destroyed about 2000 homes. I'm a homebuilder, so suffice it to say I'm too busy re-building homes for people who lost theirs to give that experience another go...

A minute on YouTube will show you some videos of the evacuation of about 88,000 people that might make you have nightmares. Thankfully nobody was injured or killed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Fort_McMurray_Wildfire
 
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I partly got my "Beast" tank, because in May of last year, a wildfire that our Fire Chief named "The Beast" rolled right through our small city, and destroyed about 2000 homes. I'm a homebuilder, so suffice it to say I'm too busy re-building homes for people who lost theirs to give that experience another go...

A minute on YouTube will show you some videos of the evacuation of about 88,000 people that might make you have nightmares. Thankfully nobody was injured or killed.
:) I hope you know I was poking you about the "again" statement.

BTW -- Welcome to VU! As you have seen, there is a lot of good information here on VU and a lot of good helpful people.

What they posted up there is good information and you should be safe with a regulated MOD and good batteries. And yup, ditch any batteries that aren't the good ones. Not worth the hassle for a reject rewrap.
 

LaughingWarrior

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I made this video which should explain alot of it. It's a good watch


If u want a short answer ditch the non samsung batteries and keep it 150 or less on a dual battery mod and you'll be fine. For regulated mods it's power/battery voltage/ board efficiency = amp draw.

So 110 watts at say low batts 3.2 volts each and a 90% efficient chip would be
110/6.4/.9 = 19 amps from the batteries.

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Thanks for this. My takeaway is to keep below the limit you suggest, and not run the batteries down too much; after not letting the kid at the vape shop who's not old enough to shave to sell second-rate Chinese batteries.
 

LaughingWarrior

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:) I hope you know I was poking you about the "again" statement.

BTW -- Welcome to VU! As you have seen, there is a lot of good information here on VU and a lot of good helpful people.

What they posted up there is good information and you should be safe with a regulated MOD and good batteries. And yup, ditch any batteries that aren't the good ones. Not worth the hassle for a reject rewrap.

Not to worry... the laughing emoji lacked enough subtlety that I got it all.
 

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Thanks for this. My takeaway is to keep below the limit you suggest, and not run the batteries down too much; after not letting the kid at the vape shop who's not old enough to shave to sell second-rate Chinese batteries.
No problem. Vape shop people aren't great info sources. I stopped by a shop today for some tfv12 coils and the guy there tried saying series doubles your amperage. This board has way more good info then any vape shop

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And WAY smarter! Some vape shop people are nothing more then 18 year olds trying to hold a job and told to sell anything and everything, don't ask questions and don't answer them.
Yup. I mean I don't blame them. It's not like people working at best buy are computer experts and car salesmen aren't mechanics.

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No problem. Vape shop people aren't great info sources. I stopped by a shop today for some tfv12 coils and the guy there tried saying series doubles your amperage. This board has way more good info then any vape shop

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And WAY smarter! Some vape shop people are nothing more then 18 year olds trying to hold a job and told to sell anything and everything, don't ask questions and don't answer them.
There are a few gems that know what the fuck they're doing, sad but they are few. I'm lucky for when I decided to try vaping I went to one that has a clue.

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There are a few gems that know what the fuck they're doing, sad but they are few. I'm lucky for when I decided to try vaping I went to one that has a clue.

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Yeah but few and far between.

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Thanks for this. My takeaway is to keep below the limit you suggest, and not run the batteries down too much; after not letting the kid at the vape shop who's not old enough to shave to sell second-rate Chinese batteries.


Hey! Welcome aboard! How goes Fort Mac? I hope things are finally returning to normal out there. Im in PEI and I just wanted to give you a heads up about batteries up here.

There are very few reliable vendors for batteries in Canada and the ones that do exist have limited selection and high prices. I would highly recommend ordering batteries from a relaible site in the US. Any of the sites listed at the bottom of Moochs recommended battery chart will do so shop around and look for a sale if you can. Even with the exchange rate and shipping at regular prices they usually come to <$10(CAD) per cell which is about $4 cheaper than any of the Canadian shops.
 

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At 110W with a pair of batteries you are fulling around 19A.

Use the 25Rs, ditch the rewraps.

You batteries are 4.2V max 3.7V nominal, they run in series, in any case your mod is regulated which means it takes the available voltage from the batteries and adjust it to whatever is required, based on the wattage selection.

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Yes eventually.
 

conanthewarrior

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No problem. Vape shop people aren't great info sources. I stopped by a shop today for some tfv12 coils and the guy there tried saying series doubles your amperage. This board has way more good info then any vape shop

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The thing that it the most worrying is that I find most people who go to vape shops tend to be beginners, or stay at that kind of level- for example not joining somewhere like here to learn more.

They then get told these things by the vape shop, and a friend, for example me, tells them something different, they immediately assume I am wrong and the shop is right- after all, why would a specialist shop be wrong or lie to them is the way they see it.
 

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Vape shop workers only learn the bare minimum themselves and sometimes not even that.
The products that they push are usually not the best product for the customer but what the shop owner told them to push.
 

conanthewarrior

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Vape shop workers only learn the bare minimum themselves and sometimes not even that.
The products that they push are usually not the best product for the customer but what the shop owner told them to push.
That is probably true in a lot of cases, I now someone though who works in a EDIT: vape, (not cape lol) shop now, and is the admin of a Facebook Vaping page (so as you can guess,. Quite bad). He ignores advice, gives his own wrong advice, and is what we call in a England a 'chav'.
Everything he has is better than you have, until he gets the same- then it is still better than yours for some reason lol.
 
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That is probably true in a lot of cases, I now someone though who works in a cape shop now, and is the admin of a Facebook Vaping page (so as you can guess,. Quite bad). He ignores advice, gives his own wrong advice, and is what we call in a England a 'chav'.
Everything he has is better than you have, until he gets the same- then it is still better than yours for some reason lol.

People like that have terrible self-esteem, so they bolster it the only way they can think of, trumping everything that anyone says to them. They're the kings of "Yeah but".

Andria
 

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That is probably true in a lot of cases, I now someone though who works in a cape shop now, and is the admin of a Facebook Vaping page (so as you can guess,. Quite bad). He ignores advice, gives his own wrong advice, and is what we call in a England a 'chav'.
Everything he has is better than you have, until he gets the same- then it is still better than yours for some reason lol.
LMAO lots of people act like that. very closed minded
 

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Vape shop counter jockeys come in three flavors.
MacDonalds rejects that are to fucky to handle food and look like they are one step above homeless.
Store owners to fuck everyone over that comes in for money.
Half assed semi ok to deal with.
 

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