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  1. Marine3313

    Marine3313 Member For 2 Years ECF Refugee

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    Ok so I'm using Dovpo e-lvt 30w with kanger sub mini. I'm at 17w but flavor is not there like when I drip it on the RTA version of the tank. Do I need to turn up the watts?
     
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    Teresa P Professional DIY Enabler Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Platinum Contributor Member For 3 Years

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    Turn it up and experiment. Flavors do change at different wattages. And one of the reasons the flavor is so good on a rda is because you're directly "cooking" it on the coils. ;)
    Just be careful with chocolates. They tend to scorch at higher wattage.
     
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    Marine3313 Member For 2 Years ECF Refugee

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    Ok great thank you. I've bought some rda's and rta's from members on here and just waiting on them in the mail. Keep checking tracking # and mail box hourly. lol Can't wait to get them. Never had any only had this kanger sub mini. I'm into super sweet juices. I like this Doused "the drank" I swear I'm addicted to it. Before that it was vaporfi cloud candy. Love the hit when drip it on the coils. OMG. This got me to stop smoking. I just do construction and kinda hard to grab my gear and drip on a quick break. But I find time!!!
     
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    JERUS Gold Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    Lots of elements go into flavor. Turning up wattage should vaporize the liquid quicker which may yield more vapor which will make for a richer flavor, but could also lead to scorching the cotton ruining the flavor and wick. Some juices need more heat to bring out some nuances in flavor, and like Teresa mentioned some juices too much heat will ruin the juice.

    One other thing to be aware of is vapor's tongue, mixing up the juices you use will help prevent this (as well as staying hydrated and spicy food and mouth wash can reset the taste buds sometimes).

    The biggest thing for flavor though is a good coil IMO. Once I jumped to fused claptons I just can't go back, which has lead me to making some tiny fused claptons (32g cores wrapped in 40g wrap, it's basically like taking 2 whiskers out of my beard and wrapping it with a strand of my hair, crazy thin). It traps the juice in the coil which has some juice vaporizing strait from the coil rather than just the wick, it's just very nice.

    Anyways, yes try wattage, but be careful, I generally go up 5w at a time until I get even the slightest hint of a dry hit, then either go up or down in increments of 1w until I find my desired spot. Again though sometimes you can vape higher wattages for more clouds but the flavor fails. I had one build that I could run at 150w, but I found the best flavor was at 105-110w. So, it's not a hard rule, lots of wiggle room.
     
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    Marine3313 Member For 2 Years ECF Refugee

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    Thanks JERUS. maybe this isn't good ? In this thread but what do you mean 150w build? I'm still learning and will be buying pre made coils but until I learn more won't attempt. When you make your coils and burn them then test them is that what tells you how high it can go? Sorry if dumb question.
     
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    The higher you go in temp/wattage, the more some flavors will tone down and wash out. Fruit flavors are one, sweet Bakery flavors are another. Experiment and have fun Marine!
     
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    JERUS Gold Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    I just meant I had a build that could handle 150w without causing a dry burn, but the flavor was lost on it. I've had other builds that could go to 200w before that happened and 160w was actually very nice. Just lots of things involved. One of my best builds is a 1.11Ω dual coil build at 45w, it's great. Not as much cloudage but flavor is on point compared to my 150w+ .08 staple build.

    The wattage you use like everything has multiple elements at play, airflow, wicking, and the coil structure will play major roles. If it doesn't wick juice quickly or hold much juice inside then it won't be able to handle higher wattage. If the airflow is low your coil is going to run hotter which means you likely want to use lower wattage. Coil structure is more than just resistance, but also mass and material type. A ~.2Ω kanthal fused clapton will be 26g cores most likely, and be larger than a Stainless steel fused clapton which would probably be 28g or so.

    Anyways, I have a few "rules" for guessing wattage for myself, but I just use them to start then adjust to fine tune.
    - more mass = more wattage (so going from a 26g build to a 24g build I'm going to turn the wattage up)
    - lower resistance = more wattage (26g Kanthal vs 26g Stainless Steel I'll probably use more wattage on the stainless steel being lower resistance, but not much as stainless steel also heats quicker anyways)
    - .5Ω start at 40w, .3Ω start at 60w, .2Ω start at 75w, .1Ω start at 90w (sometimes I'll go up, sometimes down, but that's where I just guess as my starting point).

    As for dry burning, it's always better to go low for that, just pulse it until it glows. If you heat up a coil too much it won't necessarily melt but it will soften and droop, losing it's shape and ruining the coil, which sucks. So like my .1Ω coil I might mount it and work out the hotspots and get it balancing at 65w, once it's set I'll wick it up, prime it, pulse it a few times as I blow on it, then prime it again and put the tank back together and fill, then crank that wattage up to around 90w. Now when I dryburn to clean I'm lazy and usually just yank the cotton out and pulse it until I get a nice glow and all the gunk is gone, just being careful not to hold the power down, just like half second pulses over and over until it's a nice orange, not going to that blinding glow.

    Anyways, this is getting long and I'm rambling, just remember that wattage isn't isolated, it's simply the power you're putting in. Each build (coil/wick/airflow/etc) may prefer a different amount of power to achieve similar results.
     
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    Wow thanks you both for your relplies. Like I've said in other posts I've learned so much from members on here cause well #1 I don't have any friends that vape
    #2 I'm hooked to this forum. Want to thank you all for all your help and knowledge. I'm from Columbus Ohio and glad I found this forum. Thanks all.
     
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    Turn it up turn it down. Use a lower ohm or higher ohm coil. Use a coil with more surface area.

    The correct setting or coil or wick can be different for ever build mod and flavor you vape.

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