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  1. Carambrda

    Carambrda Gold Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    Crazy Wire is still good for tying up tomato plants. Forget Americans... you really should try Kanthal A1 from here, Nichrome80 from here, SS316L from here, Belgium knows what's best for you. :cheers:
     
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    I always forget members here are from all over the world. Not like a friends list in Facebook.

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  3. zephyr

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    Isn't it AWESOME?!
     
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    I think if they're from England or in that region voice activation should be an option. I could listen to the accent all day.

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    Carambrda Gold Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    Nah. That part's called Scotland.
     
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    is there an option on the site to wack it in English?

    Winkelwagon ...:D I’m calling a shopping trolley that from now on!
     
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    Carambrda Gold Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    It translates itself after you've had 10 beers. ;)

    Here's the official Wireworks website.
    http://wireworks.eu
     
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    :giggle: :cheers:
     
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  9. zephyr

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    Kbeewholesale : Order placed last Thursday during business hours, shipping label created today

    Master of Clouds Wholesale: Order placed morning of Tuesday July 10th, and it'll be in my mailbox Today.

    :vapemail:
     
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    Have you tried the Jacobs wire yet?
     
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    I have not, but I plan to when I have the funds

    I know Jacob's is not Expensive by any means, but I was stuck on bulk and cheap recently with only having $10 or $20 at a time and needing wire pronto
     
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    Best 36g and 38g Nichrome I've had bar none. I'm so glad I took your recommendation on them.
     
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    Yup! I've never had anything less than exceptional wire from them.
     
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    I have 600ft of 316L 0.3 ribbon from Kbee - IT COMES OFF THE SPOOL STRAIGHT!!!!


    LOOK AT IT, STRAIGHT OFF THE SPOOL!!!!

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    Damn that's straight

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    Just realized I Posted here and said I
    Just realized I Posted here and said I would check back in. Well I still order from Crazywire. After another few thousand feet, and more good hard time with this wire, I've come to the conclusion that it's just inconsistent. Ive got like 1500'ish feet, over 3 spools, of ribbon from them that comes perfectly straight off the spool. And then I've got 1 spool that gets caught up and kinks every few feet. The wire quality itself is actually really decent. It lasts as long as the few spools of lightning I've tried, when taken care of. And after shopping around a bit, you just can't beat the price. 200m/660ft of Ni80 36g is 5.69 euro (6.60 usd). 500' at lightningvapes is 14 usd. under /12 the price of the cheapest "Name brand". And shipping apparently isn't as bad as I stated before. It's a flat 8.50. Which if your only ordering a couple of spools is pretty steep. But becomes less noticeable when you get thousands of feet at a time. All in all I think it's worth it for the price! :D
     
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    Master of clouds wholesale has n80 36g, 1,250 for $11 (or 625ft for $5.50, free shipping)

    If you get the 250ft spools - thats the only downside if you'd call it that - spools max out at 250ft
     
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    Well that's pretty nifty! I'll have to check it out and see if the quality is any good.
     
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    All my spools have been great, same for 36g SS and 36g kanthal from them
     
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    Crazy Wire 36g Ni80 wasn't that cheap after I factored in all the antidepressants to live with the wire's unstoppable tendency to tangle itself up due to there being the craziest amount of twist in the wire, the various kinks in the wire, and the occasional bump that felt similar to a knot in the wire.
     
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  21. KingPin!

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    I get hit and miss from crazy wire also their spooling process is shite
     
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    I've had very good luck with their 317L SS, I have around 40 or 50 spools of it and have been through at least 10. Now their Kanthal I'm not impressed at all.

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    SS316L and Nichrome 36 and 38g is fine haven’t had any issues there but their kanthal like you said is not all that great especially ribbon wire ...sometimes it’s weaved over and under makes stacking really hard for consistency

    But it’s cheap as you like and still manage to get builds out of it all ok
     
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    I bought a 30,000 ft spool of Kanthal (brand) 40g today :oops: from Kingorchid on ebay (no, he doesnt have another 30k spool right now, cause I bought it lol)

    Any guesses on price?
     
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    Go on?
     
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    30,000 ft for $125 :eek:

    It would only be about $330 from kingorchid if you bought 1k at a time, super good prices from him
     
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    Wow ...mind you you’re gonna need industrial spool tamers for that bad boy :giggle:
     
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    I got that big spool of 46 from him back in Feb, figure if I can respool 46 then 40 wont be any harder lol

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    Something's amiss at Kbee... 0.3 kanthal ribbon is coming off the spool straight, too
     

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    Amazing, is it clean? KBee is IMO one of the worst shitwire companies out there. You may save a couple of bucks but not fucking worth it, if you're on a budget get real Sandvik wire from Temco. They're inexpensive, buy it by the pound if you like for huge spools. Other than that I stick with Atomizer Wick and Kidney Puncher for it's not worth the pennies you may save from shitwire like KBee.
     
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    All the Temco I've gotten has been terrible.

    Yes, their (Kbee's) 0.3 kanthal ribbon has always been clean (since my first purchase Feb/March '18) - it's good quality.

    I got some 0.3 SS ribbon from Kbee recently and it came off the spool straight

    New 0.3 kanthal is also coming off straight - this is a new thing from them. They're doing something right.

    I still wouldnt buy any round or high gauge from them though
     
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    I have a Kbee staple build in my Engine Nano that's still healthy after 6 months
     
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    I use Temco for my practice wire, absolutely loath KBee. I'd rather strip bedspring wire out or strip bailing wire off hay bails than use that shitwire.

    Kidney Puncher is the best I've found, well worth the minimal cost. Shame they don't have 317L, I use Atomizer Wick for that. You really can't beat real Sandvik wire ;)

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    Maybe it's just the .3 worldwide that is having a good day. cause my last round of .3 from crazywire is just exquisite!!
     
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    KidneyPuncher won't ship to my state (Arkansas) and I'm not gonna email them and ask so I can pay 300% more for wire that I've already sourced from other real Sandvik suppliers.

    I'm getting a 30k foot spool of 40g today, Sandvik Kanthal :D This bulk buy cost 1/6th of what it would to buy 1,000 ft at a time from KP
     
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    30k? Damnnnn. I always feel like I'm wasting wire when it goes south. I'd be more apt to build more often if I had that much. Lol

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    Weird, why won't they ship to Arkansas? Also what's your other source of Sandvik? I'd love to have another source.

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    That's why I got into 46g staples - got that huge spool and since that's what I had the most of, thats what I practiced with the most :D


    Arkansas law bans interstate import of tobacco products; ready to vape nicotine e-liquid got added as a tobacco product; it does not apply to anything besides vapeable e-liquid, but some sellers are extra careful and just don't ship anything to Arkansas.

    Kudos to KP for looking into the laws; most e-liquid stores have no clue. Quite unenforceable as a law imo, but anyway...

    kingorchid on ebay buys large spools and respools them for resale - not all of his listings are Sandvik, so you have to look carefully - place of manufacture usually tells - Halstahammar, Sweden for Sandvik

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    After looking, the only wire he has from Sweden is Kanthal D high gauge - his n80 and n60 seems to be made by Driver Harris
     
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    Yeah Sandvik has the patent on Kanthal, anyone else who sells under advertising it as Kanthal are also looking for a lawsuit. Sandvik recently have started going after those company's cause most all are not adhering to the quality. Sandvik takes this infringement very seriously due to quality issues.
     
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    How is the wire from Wick-n-Vapes Cotton bacon Comp wrap ? ... Says a unique Nichrome blend with lower nickel content and added properties of kanthal . Providing optimal ramp time long pulls and longer life span....
     
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    Sounds like N70 or N60, unique it is not
     
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    I just ordered a load of wire from Crazy Wire Company, way more than I should have for a "test" order bahaha, but it's so Cheap, dammit!

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    Oooh! I like that 0.4x0.05 idea! I might have to try that.
     
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    Jim from Wick-N-vapes says the wire comes from Sweden. And he says N80 20180925_214418.jpg 20180925_214644.jpg
     
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    Well, good wire comes from Sweden, I hear - it might be Nifethal, trademark N70, you might ask him - knowing the metal type will help plan resistances of builds, anyway

    Edit- I didnt see you say N80 until I quoted you, weird...but N80 should have around 80% nickel content, so not sure how it could have less nickel than other n80 wire in any significant amount
     
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    Looking back up at that. Guess i did forget N80..lol.... I know with steam engine coil wrapping ohm's are off by about 2 wraps... Right now i using 20 gauge Kanthal A1 from VapoWire 6 wraps 0.12 ohm steam engine hit it dead on...
     
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    But that’s wrong spelling of “metre”


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    center = centre
    Saint Peter = Saint Petre :giggle:
     
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    Steam engine has N70 as a wire choice, I'd plug that in there and see if it comes out with the real resistance you got

    If the real resistance is still higher than what Steam Engine says, try N60...and then we can trash talk the Wick n Vape guy for calling it "N80, but with less nickel and more kanthal properties"
     

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