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Little write up on the new Troll RTA........

I've had many tanks along the years, those that know me, it's a bit of standing joke just how much vape gear I own, that doesn't make me an expert but it does give me the luxury to know what's good and what's not..

Let's first say this tank is for lung hitting only with plenty of airflow, it's a really compact size and holds 5ml of juice. It's not going to give you Modfather clouds lol but that's not to say it can't chuck them..

So onto the tank itself.





Machining is top notch, threads are buttery smooth, afc is a little tight but it's OK, build quality is fine and it looks kinda sexy. Comes with a spare glass, your usual coils, o rings ect, usual stuff you find with wotofo.

Build deck





First off this isn't an original design by Wotofo, I've seen this deck before on a RDA so it's not a first. Building on it is a pleasure, just as easy as any velocity style deck but what I like about it is it separates the coils, I've not heard any reviewer mention this, the air is directed on both coils but it kind of separate because there is no gap between the posts for it to pass through, whether this adds to the flavor I don't know but boy does this have flavor......more on that later.

Wicking



I hate when something is a pain to wick, in that you have to wick it just right or it will leak everywhere, the Billow V3 Plus is a prime example of this.
I built a Clapton but used a flat 0.3*0.8 ribbon wire core and wrapped it in 32g, some so this reduces flavor as the juice doesn't soak into the coil as much, personally I have not found this but what it does do is reduce the ramp up and ramp down times a lot, I really like these.

Coils were 3mm ID and I used Muji organic cotton, nothing fancy, cut the wicks by putting the scissors between the top of the deck and the bottom, this gives you the perfect length for you wicks. Stuffed them lightly in the holes, you don't have to worry too much about plugging them, I dunno, it just doesn't leak, whether that's due to the raised deck or not remains to be seen.

Short version, it's easy to wick and doesn't leak, not a single drop.



This is a small tank, not much bigger than an RDA and looks super cool on the new Therion 166 blacked out.

Another reason it looks great on this mod is because it fits the curves at the top of the mod, it's 24mm and that 1mm less really makes a difference.



Top fill with two large kidney holes, the drip tip, although this may be a con to some because you can't use a standard 510 one, to me, it doesn't matter, in fact, I prefer it that way.
The whole top cap is the drip tip, a bit like the Tobeco super tanks but this has a metal thread inside so it's not going to wear or strip. The main thing I like is how you can rest your lips on top of the cap and because it's delrin it's extremely comfortable, these little things when vaping matter a lot seeing as how many times we put these to our lips. It doesn't get hot either, not even at 80w.



Next to a OBS Engine 25mm, gives you an idea of just how compact the tank is.



Wicking like a champ





Plenty of bubbles from the wicks, no dry hits chain vaping this at 80w (coil came out to 0.25ohms, dual) Thick saturated vape, just what you want.

No spit back whatsoever, not even after filling it, there is no juice flow control, by design, it's not needed, again, I have to stress, this doesn't leak......sure it's not a dead cert like the OSB Engine but it's better than most, some tanks I feel uneasy with, watching to see if any juice flows out the afc, I don't feel like that with this one.

Final Thoughts..

So how does it vape, outstanding, no doubt about it, the flavor on this is right up there, almost RDA flavor, the gap between an RTA and RDA is getting smaller by the year. Lovely swooshy airflow, kenedy style, two airflow holes around 3mm each, wide open it's the perfect draw for me, the airflow shines on this tank. The tank doesn't get hot unlike some, there's nothing worse than when a tank heats the sides of your mod up.

Cons

There are a few (isn't there always) The phillips head screws are gunk and that's because the heads are so shallow, I am always super careful and never usually complain about this but I stripped two of the screws, they are still in the tank and I have a feeling when it's time to change the coils it's going to be a pain in the rear to get them out. They don't work, yeah, for single wire they probably will but when you need to tighten fused claptons ect, they just aren't up to the job.

I have to replace these with hex grub screws, I'm not sure what will fit yet but either way, the stock ones have to be replaced. I will post an update when I find some that fit.

Maybe there's another con but it's early days but the insulator (German made) because it's between the posts and is where you pulse and dry burn your coils, will it melt over time ? It was find with this build so again, i'll have to update you on that.

No stardard 510 drip tip, personal preference but it would be nice to have the option.

Subjective con but needs mentioning, this thing drinks juice like crazy, like real crazy lol (build dependent too I guess)

Update (already?, yup lol)

I always like to come back after my first tank full is empty and I have refilled it again, there is still no spitback, no leaking and now the wicks have bedded in a bit this tank is flavor flavor flavor and a nice cloud chucker. It's on par with the Serpent Mini but you get more vapor, that's pretty impressive for a tank like this.
Maybe next time I'll try some stapled Claptons and lower the coils a little, see what works best but for a first build, you can't fault it....and I didn't really get my coils and wicks to the stardard I usually do and it still vapes great, you get the picture.

Rixsta rating of 4.5 stars.......it would of been a full 5 but those grub screws, omg, wotofo, you designed the tank for big coils, why would you use such terrible screws. Out of all the attys I have had, these rate along with some of if not, the worse screws I've ever come across.

In saying that, this is going to be one popular tank ! Awesome Vape..


UPDATE - 1 The grub screws from the OBS Engine fit perfect into the Troll RTA - YAY ! I'm sure they are a pretty standard size then and others will most likely fit. Good news

UPDATE 2 - So yes, the hex grub screws are soooooooooo much better, they tighten down a lot more and work perfect, problem fixed. I put some zipper coils in and lowered them a little further down towards the air holes, not sure if the increase in flavor is due to the coils, the position or both. It's chucking more clouds now too, came out at 0.15ohms.



UPDATE 3 - Pulled the zippers out, didn't like the vape, put my go to fused SS Claptons in, 2 x 26g wrapped in 32g NI80 0.20ohm.
Positioning the coils so the top of the coil is in line with the top of the insulator seems to be the sweet spot, not only for flavor but also for airflow, to close ruins the air and vape in general.

No need to wick to the bottom either. Insulator shows no signs of melting or anything.

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Nice review Rixta
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Awesome writeup. Sold me on it! I love how short it is and yet still 5ml. Not the prettiest next to the Engine, but looks are subjective.

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Nice review! How would you say this compares to the engine? was just about to purchase the engine then started reviewing the troll and now think this might be a better fit.
 

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Awesome writeup. Sold me on it! I love how short it is and yet still 5ml. Not the prettiest next to the Engine, but looks are subjective.

Sent from somewhere in Vietnam.
The Engine is a pretty tank but the Troll beats it on flavor and thanks, glad you enjoyed the review.
nice review mine comes in today cant wait
Let us know what you think !
Nice review! How would you say this compares to the engine? was just about to purchase the engine then started reviewing the troll and now think this might be a better fit.
That's a hard one, the engine has the edge on the fact it never leaks, it can't but you can get a little spit back if you don't wick it right, I have to give the flavor to the Troll though, if I had to choose, ahhh, it's a close one, both great tanks in there own right but I have to edge it for the Troll.....this is all subjective though. Get both ! lol
 
Thanks for the review it help alot, but if want to compare between this one and iJoy EXO RTA , witch one think is better? EXO cam with 2 extension RBA one is 2ML and the second 6ML
 

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Thanks for the review it help alot, but if want to compare between this one and iJoy EXO RTA , witch one think is better? EXO cam with 2 extension RBA one is 2ML and the second 6ML
Sorry, that's one tank I have not tried yet, not sure whether we are getting any in our shop, i'll ask about..
 

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Fagan got the insulator to melt , but that was with some serious pulsing.

Sent from somewhere in Vietnam.

I'm sure it can if pushed but then anything will break if you abuse it so......all I can say is, I have had no problems at all yet, I will update in a week or so.
 

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Hmmm, maybe next time I lose my mind and think I need yet another RTA :giggle:

Nice work - been looking at this thing for quite awhile...
 

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Little write up on the new Troll RTA........

I've had many tanks along the years, those that know me, it's a bit of standing joke just how much vape gear I own, that doesn't make me an expert but it does give me the luxury to know what's good and what's not..

Let's first say this tank is for lung hitting only with plenty of airflow, it's a really compact size and holds 5ml of juice. It's not going to give you Modfather clouds lol but that's not to say it can't chuck them..

So onto the tank itself.





Machining is top notch, threads are buttery smooth, afc is a little tight but it's OK, build quality is fine and it looks kinda sexy. Comes with a spare glass, your usual coils, o rings ect, usual stuff you find with wotofo.

Build deck





First off this isn't an original design by Wotofo, I've seen this deck before on a RDA so it's not a first. Building on it is a pleasure, just as easy as any velocity style deck but what I like about it is it separates the coils, I've not heard any reviewer mention this, the air is directed on both coils but it kind of separate because there is no gap between the posts for it to pass through, whether this adds to the flavor I don't know but boy does this have flavor......more on that later.

Wicking



I hate when something is a pain to wick, in that you have to wick it just right or it will leak everywhere, the Billow V3 Plus is a prime example of this.
I built a Clapton but used a flat 0.3*0.8 ribbon wire core and wrapped it in 32g, some so this reduces flavor as the juice doesn't soak into the coil as much, personally I have not found this but what it does do is reduce the ramp up and ramp down times a lot, I really like these.

Coils were 3mm ID and I used Muji organic cotton, nothing fancy, cut the wicks by putting the scissors between the top of the deck and the bottom, this gives you the perfect length for you wicks. Stuffed them lightly in the holes, you don't have to worry too much about plugging them, I dunno, it just doesn't leak, whether that's due to the raised deck or not remains to be seen.

Short version, it's easy to wick and doesn't leak, not a single drop.



This is a small tank, not much bigger than an RDA and looks super cool on the new Therion 166 blacked out.

Another reason it looks great on this mod is because it fits the curves at the top of the mod, it's 24mm and that 1mm less really makes a difference.



Top fill with two large kidney holes, the drip tip, although this may be a con to some because you can't use a standard 510 one, to me, it doesn't matter, in fact, I prefer it that way.
The whole top cap is the drip tip, a bit like the Tobeco super tanks but this has a metal thread inside so it's not going to wear or strip. The main thing I like is how you can rest your lips on top of the cap and because it's delrin it's extremely comfortable, these little things when vaping matter a lot seeing as how many times we put these to our lips. It doesn't get hot either, not even at 80w.



Next to a OBS Engine 25mm, gives you an idea of just how compact the tank is.



Wicking like a champ





Plenty of bubbles from the wicks, no dry hits chain vaping this at 80w (coil came out to 0.25ohms, dual) Thick saturated vape, just what you want.

No spit back whatsoever, not even after filling it, there is no juice flow control, by design, it's not needed, again, I have to stress, this doesn't leak......sure it's not a dead cert like the OSB Engine but it's better than most, some tanks I feel uneasy with, watching to see if any juice flows out the afc, I don't feel like that with this one.

Final Thoughts..

So how does it vape, outstanding, no doubt about it, the flavor on this is right up there, almost RDA flavor, the gap between an RTA and RDA is getting smaller by the year. Lovely swooshy airflow, kenedy style, two airflow holes around 3mm each, wide open it's the perfect draw for me, the airflow shines on this tank. The tank doesn't get hot unlike some, there's nothing worse than when a tank heats the sides of your mod up.

Cons

There are a few (isn't there always) The phillips head screws are gunk and that's because the heads are so shallow, I am always super careful and never usually complain about this but I stripped two of the screws, they are still in the tank and I have a feeling when it's time to change the coils it's going to be a pain in the rear to get them out. They don't work, yeah, for single wire they probably will but when you need to tighten fused claptons ect, they just aren't up to the job.

I have to replace these with hex grub screws, I'm not sure what will fit yet but either way, the stock ones have to be replaced. I will post an update when I find some that fit.

Maybe there's another con but it's early days but the insulator (German made) because it's between the posts and is where you pulse and dry burn your coils, will it melt over time ? It was find with this build so again, i'll have to update you on that.

No stardard 510 drip tip, personal preference but it would be nice to have the option.

Subjective con but needs mentioning, this thing drinks juice like crazy, like real crazy lol (build dependent too I guess)

Update (already?, yup lol)

I always like to come back after my first tank full is empty and I have refilled it again, there is still no spitback, no leaking and now the wicks have bedded in a bit this tank is flavor flavor flavor and a nice cloud chucker. It's on par with the Serpent Mini but you get more vapor, that's pretty impressive for a tank like this.
Maybe next time I'll try some stapled Claptons and lower the coils a little, see what works best but for a first build, you can't fault it....and I didn't really get my coils and wicks to the stardard I usually do and it still vapes great, you get the picture.

Rixsta rating of 4.5 stars.......it would of been a full 5 but those grub screws, omg, wotofo, you designed the tank for big coils, why would you use such terrible screws. Out of all the attys I have had, these rate along with some of if not, the worse screws I've ever come across.

In saying that, this is going to be one popular tank ! Awesome Vape..


UPDATE - 1 The grub screws from the OBS Engine fit perfect into the Troll RTA - YAY ! I'm sure they are a pretty standard size then and others will most likely fit. Good news

UPDATE 2 - So yes, the hex grub screws are soooooooooo much better, they tighten down a lot more and work perfect, problem fixed. I put some zipper coils in and lowered them a little further down towards the air holes, not sure if the increase in flavor is due to the coils, the position or both. It's chucking more clouds now too, came out at 0.15ohms.



UPDATE 3 - Pulled the zippers out, didn't like the vape, put my go to fused SS Claptons in, 2 x 26g wrapped in 32g NI80 0.20ohm.
Positioning the coils so the top of the coil is in line with the top of the insulator seems to be the sweet spot, not only for flavor but also for airflow, to close ruins the air and vape in general.

No need to wick to the bottom either. Insulator shows no signs of melting or anything.

you were right on with your review got mine in today those freaking screws just suck I am on a mission to find some hex screws the flavor is freaking amazing well worth it if that is your thing and it does not leak
 

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Nice review :)
Maybe there's another con but it's early days but the insulator (German made) because it's between the posts and is where you pulse and dry burn your coils, will it melt over time ? It was find with this build so again, i'll have to update you on that.
Yes I've heard complaints about a melting insulator.
 

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Hmmm, maybe next time I lose my mind and think I need yet another RTA :giggle:

Nice work - been looking at this thing for quite awhile...
Thanks Lucy, really good one this ! :hug:

you were right on with your review got mine in today those freaking screws just suck I am on a mission to find some hex screws the flavor is freaking amazing well worth it if that is your thing and it does not leak

Glad you like it, it's a great tank and I try and review it, well, as honest as I can.

Since I have replaced those crappy screws with OBS Hex screws, it's been great, I do use a proper hex wrench though, with a handle lol...I forgot the make of it now. You can really tighten them down and get a good grip, I like the OBS ones as they are quiet deep.

The flavor is amazing though, the raised deck is the main reason.
 

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Thanks Lucy, really good one this ! :hug:



Glad you like it, it's a great tank and I try and review it, well, as honest as I can.

Since I have replaced those crappy screws with OBS Hex screws, it's been great, I do use a proper hex wrench though, with a handle lol...I forgot the make of it now. You can really tighten them down and get a good grip, I like the OBS ones as they are quiet deep.

The flavor is amazing though, the raised deck is the main reason.
did you find the mm size of the screws or did you just try different tank screws until you found the fit?
 

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^^^what he said
I had the same problem on the hobo v2...
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Troll RTA goes to the number 1 spot for me, to be able to fit a 6 wrap dual framed stapled clapton in here and for it to handle them, the tank gets warm but not hot, the vape off this is incredible.

Got to pat myself on the back because these coils bring out the flavor to whole new level, they came out at 0.15ohm vaping at 75w on the finder, bloody lovely.

Insulator is fine but if it's gonna go, it will be with these coils, never ran coils like this in a RTA before, there is no difference between this and an RDA now, the gap has closed, that's why this takes the number one slot, that and the fact this tank can wick and keep up is pretty impressive. No leaks again, 4th build and I thinned them out a bit more, just one hell of a tank for how I vape.

This has shelved them all..even my 30mm atty's

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I don't know if I am searching wrong or what but, I am trying to do a web search for OBS Engine grubs and nothing is coming up. Does anyone know the exact size for the grubs?
 

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I don't know if I am searching wrong or what but, I am trying to do a web search for OBS Engine grubs and nothing is coming up. Does anyone know the exact size for the grubs?

Was thinking about asking this question also - would like to swap out the screws on the Troll right away if I do bite the bullet and get this
 

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Was thinking about asking this question also - would like to swap out the screws on the Troll right away if I do bite the bullet and get this
I messaged Wotofo directly to see if they will give me the grub screw size. Its worth a shot anyway. Hopefully they tell me lol.
 

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Wotofo just emailed me back and said the grub size in the Troll is and I quote "M2.5 0.45"
yeah it appears several of the obs grubs work apparently i replaced mine with OBS Crius grubs

Great info BTW.. My second troll arrived today need more grubs
 
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yeah it appears several of the obs grubs work apparently i replaced mine with OBS Crius grubs

Great info BTW.. My second troll arrived today need more grubs
Crius V3 or all Crius version grubs the same?
 

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