Would like some advice, since I am very confused.

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  1. eStorm

    eStorm New Member

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    Hey Guys, I am new to vaping and I've done my research, or at least tried but I am more confused then ever. This probably will be a longer post, trying to explain my situation and experience, I've had with our local vape store. But I do hope that somebody will take the time and read the upcoming novel, and could give me some advice. Much appreciated.

    I am a smoker for around 18 years, I quit multiple times and started again. Pretty sure everybody knows that story :) Anyways, about a year ago, I had to go to a physical check up and while I've never had any issues in the past, apparently my blood pressure was sky rocketing, and my doctor told me that I should stop smoking.

    So I started looking around for alternatives, having tried the chewing gums and patches in the past, but neither would work, I found a lot of topics about vaping. It was very interesting to me, and I wanted to give it at try. I walked in our local smoke store and purchased one of these e-cigarettes. Tried it, but after 2 days of not touching a regular cigarette, I went right back and purchased a couple of packs. I couldn't get used to the taste of the e-cigarettes and it felt like I wasn't getting any nicotine out of it. Funny tho because if we trust the label, they did have 2.4% nic in them, but no matter how hard I tried, it felt like inhaling air lol.

    3 months later, I wanted to give it another try, walked back in the store and purchased one of the pen style devices, I was happier with it, because now I could actually purchase e-liquid and I thought, after seeing the huge variety that I couldn't go wrong with that. Boy was I wrong, this was the dumbest thing I've done I think, all the upcoming attempts, lead to more frustration. From having the wrong flavors, all the way to having hot oil in my mouth, leaking tanks etc. Once again I stopped and went right back to cigarettes.

    Now again, after having read so much great stories about vaping, I am more then willing to quit cigarettes but this time, I would like something that actually works. I read that you shouldn't buy stuff in smoke stores, were the staff does not even know what they are doing or selling, and should actually go to an vape store.

    With that in mind, I searched the area and found a vape store that's actually pretty close. 2 weeks ago, I then decided to just walk in there, and see what the guys suggest. Lets keep in mind, even so I have done my research, most of the time it's sadly sponsored reviews, that don't help me at all. Sure I can get hyped about it, but I don't think it's doing anything good for me. Also since it's a lot of information, and I am not a very technical person, some of the stuff is like a foreign language to me.

    Anyways, I walked in the vape store, and explained my story. Sure enough, first thing he pointed out to me was the Smok Alien 220W starter kit. But since I was going to purchase two devices that day, and I didn't thought that I would need such high wattage, nor wanted to spend $350 I asked him to show me some other kits. Next thing he pulled out was the Smok AL85 kit, and again I thought after having read some of the reviews that this might be more for the intermediate user then an actual beginner.

    The store is full of vaping devices, but he didn't wanted to show me anything else, saying that if I am serious then this is my only option. And that I should invest in some more expensive devices with higher wattage, now or in the near future. I thought alright he does have a point here, but as I asked him how to use these things, all he told me was to read the instructions because it's that simple. I felt like an idiot already, having asked that question, and decided to let it slide and just look up some tutorials later on.

    Next thing was the e-liquid, and of course I did not have any idea what I should purchase, he showed me all kind of vanilla custard flavors, and I told him that I am not a huge fan of them. He then went on telling me that when people want to quit smoking, this would be the only flavor that gives somewhat satisfaction. But since he pressured me already on the mods, and I still think I should have looked at the wide range of devices that were laying in the store, I didn't wanted to just go with that vanilla vape.

    I then asked if he could show me some other flavors, and despite that he wasn't happy, he did let me smell some fruity ones, some menthol, plain tobacco, dessert ones etc. I couldn't try them, therefore I had to go with the smell of them, and decided to go with Naked 100 - Naked Unicorn (70VG/30PG).

    He primed the coil for me, filled the tank and set a wattage, letting me try it right after. It was set at 40W, but he told me that the coil he installed is best used at 55-65W. However I felt that the vape was very warm for me at the 40W, giving me a somewhat burning in my throat. Of course I did cough as well, and he told me that this is normal and I should try direct lung hits. I think that is what it's called, sorry still learning the terms :/

    He then told me, that I can't go under the 40W and that most vapers even go much higher, and that I should try upping the wattage every day for a bit, and would get used to it after a couple of days. I then went home, did what he says, and ended up with hot liquid in my mouth, followed by the tank leaking just a couple hours after the purchase. Went back, he told me I burned the coil, even so I haven't changed the wattage or anything, it was set to the 40 he pre set, apparently I didn't do it correctly. All explanations he gave me, pointed more or less to user error. Fine no problem, I went back home, installed the other coil that comes with the kit, and it was a difference between night and day.

    First of all, I would have appreciated it, if the person installed that coil prior to the other one, since I can use it between 20-50W but best at 30-40. However I do keep it at 21W right now, for me since I am still getting used to the direct lung hits, it doesn't make me cough for the next 5 hrs lol.

    I also purchased another liquid, Naked 100 - Green Blast, and sadly all these bottles come at 60ml, and at a price of $28 this isn't real cheap. Now I am not looking for cheap, but till I found actually a flavor I might like or can enjoy for more then a day, I would rather purchase smaller bottles.

    But here's where my confusion comes in, the first day with the new coil was much better then prior, I could taste the flavor, and the 3mg nic were just fine, so it seems. However after not having touched a cigarette for around 2 weeks now and only vaping, I all the sudden can not taste the flavor anymore. I also feel I want a cigarette even more then I did prior. And after a couple of hours of vaping everyday, I feel I have something stuck in my throat. It's kinda like a sore throat. I do drink a lot of water but that didn't do the trick.

    My question is this, do you guys think, that with an more beginner friendly device I would have better chances of quitting, or at least enjoying it more, till I get used to it. Or should I stick with my Smok AL85 and just look for a more kind of flavor tank, since I am not trying to get a job at the next bruce springsteen gig as a fog machine. If so, can somebody maybe point me in the right direction, before I purchase something again, that isn't really what I want to begin with.

    I feel all this hype about the beast tank and cloud chasing, is very overwhelming and nothing I should be focusing on as a beginner. Maybe I am just doing the whole thing wrong, but after having spend $250, I am more determent then ever. Would hate seeing it go to waste, but right now I am at a point, were I don't know what I am supposed to do. And sadly the vape store isn't a huge help or giving me any explanations/options to chose from. They still try to sell me the TFV12 tank/coil? I have no idea if that would be a better option, but at the moment it looks more like, they trying to sell the products for the sake of selling it, instead of maybe just listening.

    Thx for reading my story, and sorry for the ultra long post, but I thought it would help understanding my frustration a bit better.
     
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  2. Johnnytraveler

    Johnnytraveler Gold Contributor

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    Holy fuck! What a shit hole store.
     
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    So much to discuss here. So I'll break it up into parts.

    Juice. Naked juice is a good juice. If you like the flavor than stick with it. But maybe buy 6mg instead of 3mg. Coming off cigarettes most will start with a higher level of nicotine until they are completely off cigs.
    Naked 100 can be bought from $10-$20. That shop is an ripoff.
     
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    Breazy is a legit site to buy juice from. They have naked 100 for normally $20. And they always have an coupon code. So right now naked is $12. 1/2 what you paid for it. [​IMG]
     
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    JuicyLucy My name is Lucy and I am a squonkaholic VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 1 Year ECF Refugee

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    ^^^^ this

    Man, I see more problems with people first starting out with those Smok Alien and AL85 kits with super sub ohm baby beast and what have you - wish stores would cut it out!!! And the prices you were charged are indeed robbery...

    I'd look for a good mouth-to-lung attie - like the good old fashioned Nautilus mini tank and higher-ohm nautilus coils, above 1 ohm, 1.2 or 1.5 and see where that gets you. They hit more like a cigarette and are easier on the lungs, which are trying to heal after years of smoking.

    Google and the internet will become your best friends.

    Frustration with gear is the leading cause of saying screw it and going back to smoking :(
     
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    But I understand you don't know what flavor juice you want. So buy 30ml instead of 60, or 100, or bigger quantities. Shop from legitimate stores. Beside breazy check out ejuicedirect.

    And others may recommend reliable juice stores.
     
  7. JuicyLucy

    JuicyLucy My name is Lucy and I am a squonkaholic VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 1 Year ECF Refugee

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    And where are my manners? Welcome to VU :wave:
     
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    Battery

    Ideally you should have 2 batteries and an external charger. That way when 1 battery gets low, you can just swap it out for a fresh one. Good battery brands are LG, Samsung or Sony. There are many other brands of batteries, but most are junk.
     
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    Mod/Device
    Your Smok Al85 is a good device.
    It'll be fine while you are starting out.
     
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    Tank/Coil

    I don't want to make you spend more money than is necessary. So for now lets stick with the baby beast tank. You can partially close off the airflow to get a more restrictive hit. This will mimic smoking a cigarette. And hopefully reduce the burning throat hit.
    When buying coils for it, buy a higher ohm coil like the Q2 0.4 or 0.6 ohm coils. Smoke is always changing availability of coils so I don't know how hard it'll be to find these coils.

    Hopefully others who have the baby beast can chime in and give you coil recommendations and where to buy. Just remember the baby beast has a wide variety of coils. So a 0.15 ohm coil is going to produce a lot of heat and cloud. Probably too much for a beginner
     
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    I also agree with @JuicyLucy.
    If the baby beast is a problem for you right now put it on the shelf and get a new tank. You can come back to it at a later date.
    If this is something you want to do, let us know and we can recommend a good beginners tank. One that more mimics the act of smoking a cigarette (mouth to lung).
     
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    Thank you both for the replies. I'll look around at some of the online stores for juices. I am not married to the brand and more then willing to try different bands and flavors. However while this naked unicorn was a hit, it's still feels to me it's a bit "heavy" after a while, if that makes any sense. I feel like I actually ate a dozen of cupcakes after a while lol. That green blast on the other hand, while not bad the first day, now I can't taste it anymore therefore I guess fruity is not my thing? or at least not that one.

    I do think however, that I should be looking around for some easier or better beginner tanks, because I do feel that this baby tank is way to much. I tried closing the airflow but that didn't do anything, I would have to adjust the wattage since it won't work at 21W, but then we are going back to my main problem, the warmth of the vape that makes the juice taste somewhat horrible, and the extreme burn in my throat. Or should I be looking at higher VG juices, to avoid that problem?

    I don't mind spending a bit more money then I already have, as long as I can maybe find something that actually works. I know it's a lot of trial and error but I don't want to go back to smoking cigarettes. After the 2 weeks tho, I am finally getting used to the lung method, instead of mouth to lung. I think I rather stick with that as well, might make it better/easier in the long run. If you like to suggest some coil/tanks that would be great.

    After you mentioned the higher ohm coil, I did take a look at the current one that I have, and it's a Q2 0.6. dual coil, which as mentioned above worked so much better for me, then the 0.4. So I guess I'll be sticking with that one for the time being. Another question I do have, I read earlier somewhere, that ceramic coils are much better for beginners, is that true? Could I use them with my mod as long as they have that 510 threading? I apologize if I sound stupid, but I am still trying to figure that stuff out lol.
     
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    First of all, that store is fuckin' robbing you. Second, the mod you got is decent enough, now the tank may be a different story. If you want to imitate the pull from a cigarette, do what @Johnnytraveler said, and close off the airflow about midway. As for craving, try and up the nicotine to 6mg see how that feels.

    For that soreness in your throat, could be your body adjusting to the vapor, try using some throat lozenges or gargling some salt water to combat it. Keep your coils primed, but don't flood them (that causes hot juice to spit back)

    Now I think I speak for more than myself here, but that cashier is a ripe c**t. :cuss2: Don't feel forced to buy one specific thing, one of the benefits of vaping is all the options out there. Of course, that is also very overwhelming. To decide what flavors you might like, what I did when I first started was thinking what flavors I liked best, not vape juices, but flavor in general. I personally really like the taste of fruit, so I bought some cherry e juice from my local shop, my buddy works there so maybe I am just a little overzealous when it comes to shitty retail at vape shops, but what flavors do you really enjoy? Apple pie, fruit, ice cream, cupcakes, tobacco? Just a word of advice, steer clear of pumpkin pie e juices, nasty stuff.

    Now for your purchase options. It's best to buy online for the most part, unless you know what you're after and the shop ain't scalping ya. I use a quite a large amount of sites, but here's a few I can recommend.

    http://vapordna.com. for when I need to buy some tech or coils
    http://thevapemall.com don't use them much anymore, but a five 17 ml sampler for 20 plus shipping might be good for you, though their e juice isn't anything to rave about, it usually ain't bad
    http://Verdevalleyvapes.com a good budget juice vendor that has secured my business for a good while
    http://elementvape.com one of the top dogs in my opinion, but for all the options very few in the juice is under 20 bucks
    http://ejuicedirect.com is kinda the best for e juice in my opinion

    That's all I got off the top of my head in sites. Welcome to the Underground, don't let yourself be scalped, twenty bucks for a 30 ml...just no :facepalm:
    Hope that covered some of your issues, sorry for the essay. :)
     
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    The SauceLA is also a great place to purchase juice from. If you sign up for their alerts or follow their Facebook page they are constantly running specials and they have some 30ml unicorn trial sizes as well.

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    If you aren't married to smok, then try the aspire Nautilus 2.
    It won't win the biggest clouds but it's an excellent starting tank. I found it for $20.
    Link to vapenw. A legitimate good vape store.
    https://vapenw.com/aspire-nautilus-2

    The coils come in 0.7 1.6 and 1.8 ohm configuration. For the 0.7 coil I recommend 6mg vape juice. If you want to try the 1.6 or 1.8 coil, you should get 9mg or 12mg nicotine. You shouldn't get a throat burn with the 1.6 or 1.8. But because they don't burn as hot you'll need a higher nicotine strength.

    Or the aspire Nautilus X which has a 1.5 ohm coil. https://breazy.com/products/nautilus-x-tank-atomizer-aspire
     
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    I don't think ceramic coils are better. When I was using sub-ohm tanks I hated ceramic coils. Since they didn't wick very well, i would get dry hits. Just awful. The promise of long life didn't matter to me if the vape was terrible.

    Maybe ceramic coils have gotten better in the last 2 years and dry hits are a thing of the past. I don't know.

    But I do know traditional cotton/metal wire coils work. That's why the majority of tanks come with cotton coils. If ceramic was so great it would've taken over the industry in the 4 years since it's debut.
     
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    I know people who've been vaping since the first rebuildables were made...they tried all kinds of devices and gear,all styles of vaping...and they still rarely vape more than 30 watts.....the idea you have to vape above 40 watts is ridiculous...they are just trying to sell you expensvie gear and bankrupt yourself buying juice.
     
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    Find a new shop to go into and stick around and people will be more than happy to help you here. Unfortunately there are shops out there that just want to sell and full of bad info. Vape how you like, if it is 12 watts or 100 watts no one working at a shop can tell you that. Also welcome!!
     
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    Mattp169 Gold Contributor Member For 2 Years Vape Media

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    your mod is fine for a beginner to an advanced user. I have read some issues on paint and longevity issues. but a mod is a mod is a mod imho. the main differences in mods nowadays are:
    durability,longevity
    aesthetics
    form factor/how it feels in your hand, fits in your pocket etc
    and how well it does temperature control or TC
    TC is a discussion for a whole other day

    so you did fine with getting an alien its fine to start with and advance with

    the tank can be fine might not be just depends on what you like. and how you vape.
    it is best for you to use tanks that have premade coils that are inexpensive for you to afford to start out with.
    theres more tanks out there then you can shake a stick at.
    outside of juice, tanks are what most people spend the most money on trying to find the perfect one. ive been vaping 7+ years and while i have 3 different tanks I love, I am still looking for one that is better for me.

    you may need to try a different tank or two.
    I would suggest if you want something different to find a tank that has coils that have an ohm rating of 1.0 - 1.8 ohms that will be a different expereince and feel then what the beast tank comes with stock.
     
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    Jeebus. Just unbelievable what that shop has told you, and done. Not all shops are out to get the new guy, but I'm seriously glad you joined up here. You'll be steered in the proper direction by the members, and you've gotten some really great suggestions already. Many of us started out when there wasn't the selection that's available these days, so we were all lower powered, mouth to lung vapers. Many of us still are.

    Congrats on making the switch, and welcome to VU!
     
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    My mom used vaping to quit successfully. Where I think you went wrong is you went too low right away. You're basically trying to quit cold-turkey. I did some research on how much nicotine is in a pack of cigarettes, and came up with an answer of between 20 and 24mg, depending on the brand. You were basically going from between 20 and 24mg of nicotine (again, depending on the brand you smoked) down to almost no nicotine right away. Your body wasn't used to that, so your cravings continued. (That's my theory, anyway, because my mom made that same mistake.) What she did was gradually lower her nicotine level. First she started on 18mg, then she went to 12, then 6 and now she's down to a 3. She hasn't had a single cigarette in almost 4 years. She tried going down to a 0 a few days ago, but she said she wasn't getting any taste out of her juice.

    You might want to try slowly weaning yourself off the nicotine instead of just going from Point A to point X right away. Everyone's different though, so what works for her may not work for you.
     
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    gbalkam Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year ECF Refugee

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    So as others have said. the mod you purchased is fine. Smok is a good brand name. The max wattage really doesn't matter, since you will only use the wattage you need to use to get the vape you like. (I'm at 130w on a 230w mod... but thats me with huge coils *see avatar pic*) I think I set the fog horn off in Halifax Harbor that day... Anywho...

    Quitting smoking you will likely want a mouth to lung set up, that up puff on like you do a cigarette. Almost any tank can do this. Cut your airflow as low as you can, reduce the power (wattage) and take small puffs into your mouth, hold, inhale, exhale. I used Kanger Top-tank mini when i started out, because it let me build coils rather than keep buying them, but others can suggest a better mouth to lung atomizer.

    There are many flavors of ejuice. I tend to like pastry flavors or fruit custard (strawberry milkshake) or cheesecake flavors. I stopped using tobacco flavor after my first 15ml bottle.. It didnt taste like smoking, so screw it... i cut tobacco completely from the equation.

    Your nicotine level will depend on your tank. More vapor = low nicotine required. I use 3mg nic. (Im also a cloud chaser, soooo any higher than that will make me nic sic). Harshness (throat hit) is determined by A) PG% (propylene glycol) and B) nicotine content. Nicotine gives more of a burning (like tobasco) feeling. PG give that kick in your throat, like you get from cigarettes. You have to discuss with a GOOD vape shop staff member what is most likely a good starting point for you. (personally, I would try another vape shop, since from what i read, the guy wasn't so much dishonest as he was lacking in product knowledge.)

    A good vape shop staff member doesn't look at how much you will spend today.. he looks at how much you will spend over your vaping life span. His real money comes from the wicks, wires, ejuice, batteries and tanks, bling, batteries and future mods.

    So now you are in the right place. You decide what your favorite yum yums are, members will suggest ejuice to fit the bill. Nic and pg/vg is trial and error. But once you know what you like.. you stick with that until you decide to change.. maybe lower the nicotine level as you go. (I started at 18, then down to 12, then 6, and now at 3)

    One way to look at it, is you didnt get screwed, you got promoted. lol... Just got a bit more power then most new users start at, but will save you the cost of the starter kit later, since you bypassed it. (I wish the guy had showed me the kanger kit, rather than the epen style I purchased, but oh well.. it was a good one) *vapeplum*

    Spare batteries and a charger are a good investment. I have a set in the charger and one in my mod.. ZERO down time. I recommend nitecore charger. Its less expensive (than xtar) and does what it needs to do.
     
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    First congrats on trying again, I am currently on my 2nd go around with vaping and my last cigarette was July 7th this year. I weaned myself off cigs with a blue e-cigs, then a Vapin pen at 2.4mg nic and after 5 weeks finally walked into a vape shop and by luck met a 20 year old (I'm 44 and smoked for 30yrs) who was absolutely great. He pointed me to a Smoke Stick V8 which has the big baby tank and straight to 6mg e-juice after I told him I was a pack to a pack and half day smoker, he also explained how to use this equipment (pretty much idiot proof, perfect) and also had explained the hit and what cloud chasing was and from talking had figured I was going to be this type of user and that's why I failed 2 years ago and this was a cheaper route for the trial ($50) in the shop.....dude was right, love my first device and got the hang of it over 3 weeks so I went back and bought a Sigelei Kaos with a TFV8 Cloud Beast tank and I love that also, I use 2 different flavours in my devices and use them both during the day, stick for work, won't break, and mod for driving and hanging out....just thought I'd share for hopefully some encouragement, I don't crave the death stick anymore and all because I got lucky and ran into a shop where the workers aren't just there for a buck, but because they love vaping and believe in everyone's struggle.....good luck
     
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    Fucking people pushing Subohm to new vapers trying to get off the Stinkies just pisses me off to no end!

    Best advice is to start with high ohm (+1.5 or higher) MTL. Something like the Nautilus vaping around 12-15watts. That and around 18mg, no lower than 12mg nicotine. That'll get you off the Stinkies.

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    Other than welcome to THE UNDERGROUND...

    My suggestion is never EVER to go back to that shop.

    As for the suggestion to go high wattage?

    Each to their own.

    I have been at this for a bit now and while I do own high wattage devices, I am a flavor hound and for the most part, I don't go above 25 watts or so depending on the E-Liquid I am using.
     
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    Pastorfuzz New Member

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    I quit smoking last Sept. I bought an IPV400 and a Big Baby Beast tank.
    After a 120ml bottle of Uncle Junks Jon Wayne at 12mg Nicotine, I never had the urge to go back to smokes again.
     
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    snake94115 Platinum Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    Ouch!
    My advice is to dump the e-liquid in the tank you were sold.Then clean the tank and put it on a shelf.You might choose to retry cloud chasing at a later date.So just hold onto it.

    Next get a Spirals Plus tank from the link below.

    http://www.myvaporstore.com/SMOKTech-Spirals-PLUS-Sub-Ohm-Tank-p/sm-uatfv7210.htm

    These come in several colors so you should be able to get 1 that matches the color of the mod you already have.Plus it will be a very neat looking setup.

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    AndriaD Shine on, you crazy... VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years ECF Refugee

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    Absolutely true, the industry has completely run off and left the new-switchers in the dust, along with everyone else who still want a mouth-to-lung vape with good throat hit. Definitely try to find an atomizer that's made for mouth-to-lung vaping, which means it has a tighter, less airy draw, which is a good thing for new vapers for several reasons -- it's familiar, more like smoking a cigarette, and it doesn't produce huge gobs of whipped cream vapor which will choke the shit out of lungs that are freshly damaged from smoking -- you might want something that produces huge amounts of vapor later, when your lungs are healing and you get used to it, but at the start, it's not a very good idea, and isn't a very close facsimile of smoking.

    As for something more like a "cigalike," a beginner setup, I've heard good things about the Juul system; I can't say if it's really good, I've never used it, and none of the stuff that was available when I started is available any longer, but I've heard good things about the efficacy of the type of nicotine used in the Juul system, that it may be more satisfying when first quitting. I think they're a little on the costly side, but once you do make the transition, you can get something less costly; anyway, they're probably less costly than cigarettes. ;)

    As for flavor... you might try to find something that at least reminds you of the flavor of the cigarettes you like, but most don't find much success with that; I was very much in the minority when I hit on a Virginia flavor that reminded me a lot of Virginia Slims. Besides which, fruit and dessert stuff tastes so much better than any tobacco ever grown! :D

    And as she said... welcome to VU -- and a whole new world. Keep at it, it's truly worth it, it's just a huge learning curve -- smoking is easy, and so is getting sick and/or dead from it. Something that may give you a healthier, more comfortable, and potentially longer life is well worth all the aggravation. :)

    Andria
     
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    snake94115 Platinum Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    Unless the tobacco comes straight from Havana and has been properly aged.
     
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    :wave: Hello, glad you've joined. Hopefully by now you have found a comfortable vape. Took me awhile to find my style, but I enjoyed the journey, hope you can too.
     
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    I am a newbie too. But after reading your story I wanted to chime in just a little. I started out using the Joyetech Eio Aio. It was a gift from a sister vaper. I would NOT recommend this Aio to any one. I saw the Smok Vape Pen Plus on sale for $14.99, I got myself two of those and a 5 pack of extra coils. I will say, they tend to leak and leak bad if the coils aren't really tightened down. I have enjoyed vaping with this. They give off really nice flavor and a good amount of vaper as well. Now I am about to try and move up again. I just have losts of questions before I do. A good stick type mod might really help. My big thing with this type is the size of tank and battery. I love my 3000mah battery!! Oh and on the nic. I I started out on a 12-16mg. I have dropped down to a 3-6 mg. depending on what juice I am using. I hope my very small amt. of knowledge helpss a tiny bit..
     
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    I wanted to update this topic since it has been a while, and I am absolute grateful for the support and help I've gotten from this community. Thank you for that.

    Anyways, after I posted my original topic, I went on the search for a new vape store. Again while the links provided were very helpful, I still wasn't sure what I wanted. All the descriptions on the webpages are very confusing lol. I found a other store, that's surprisingly close to the one I've been too prior. Walked in, and talked to the guys, which were very knowledgeable and guess what, I've gotten the best customer service out there, I think.

    Not only did they let me try all their regulated mods, tanks and even coils, no I've been inside that store for full 5 hours. I don't even make that up, because that's how long it took, to try out the 250 juices, and I am glad I did, because turned out that the flavors I thought I would enjoy, are the ones I hated the most. I actually bought lots of fruit/candy flavors instead of going that dessert/coffee route. They do have 400, but I couldn't stay that long lol. Overall I loved my stay there, not only being able to try everything out, but the knowledge the owner and his associate provided was outstanding.

    I also fell in love with the RDA they provided while I was trying to find juices I like. I have to admit, nothing comes close to that experience. Loved the flavor that my tank or all of the tanks they had laying around just couldn't get even close too. But we all agreed, that I am absolutely not at the point just yet, to get my own RDA or RTA. I have to start somewhere and since I was so new to this, I'll decided to stick with my tfv8 baby beast but I did purchase the X4 coils, since the Q2's that the kit came with, are just not my thing.

    I also ended up purchasing 4 x 120ml bottles of juice, and they cut me a deal giving me 4 for free. So I ended up with a total of 8x 120ml juice, a pack of new coils, another tank (so I don't have to constantly switch mine), a more narrow drip tip, and much more knowledge. Another thing that were so much better is that their juices are all 80/20 instead of my 70/30 prior. Now I don't have this harsh throat hit anymore and actually enjoy vaping. Yes you all read that right, I didn't touch a cigarette ever since, and I know it's not that long but I also do not have that craving anymore. In fact I find myself walking away from friends smoking next to me, since I can't stand the smell of it anymore.

    I'll defiantly stick around and keep posting and helping others out, after I've learned a bit more, but again thanks for all the encouraging words. I also will stick with this new vape store, in fact I've been back to it 3 times in the last couple of days. Happy vaping everyone :)
     
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    Happy for you eStorm! Bet you felt like this when you walked out of your new shop.:bliss:
     
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    Nice dude glad to hear it! That store sounds bangin, it's always nice to find shops that don't see you as a paycheck. Fruit flavors are totally the best, but maybe the desserts weren't fully steeped while there? Anyway glad to see you got help, hope ya stay the course dude. :vino:
     
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    I'm glad you found a place you like so much. Yes, I agree that it's better to start off with premade coils just so you're as safe as possible, as building is a bit more involved. Just keep your batteries grouped, throw away any batteries that have signs of corrosion and rewrap batteries with torn casings, and you'll be fine. Those are the big three things to keep in mind. And don't skimp out on batteries either. Good batteries are expensive for a reason.
     
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    YES! AWESOME!
    I'm glad you found a good shop. That's the same that happened to me. A good shop is paradise for anything beginner with lots of questions.

    More importantly, I'm glad you are cig free!
     
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    Way to go eStorm, so happy you found the right help, especially since you haven't gone back to smokes....keep up the great work and stand proud for what you have accomplished....major happy dance for you!
     
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    Wow, a happy ending that satisfying usually costs a lot more... no, on second thought I guess you paid about the same. :p
    This pleasant feeling however, will stay with you much, much longer. ;)

    Congrats on sticking with it, and well done on finding a properly helpful retail shop, one that properly values customer satisfaction... tends to encourage repeat business (surprise, surprise).
     

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