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I found this tissue in my son's room with a part of his cape pen. Can you tell me why or what he might be doing by looking at this picture?
 

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BigNasty

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Jizz rag.
Leaking shitty cheap shit pen.
Your boy is a ****head.

Ask him
 

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Thanks. The perfect circles looked odd. I figured it was a leak. The pen does look crappy. Is there a way to tell if it's Removed vs. Typical juice? By the way, I asked. Totally clammed up for now - I get it.
 
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I've never encountered the oil, but if you're used to nicotine, take a puff. You'll know soon enough? LOL

The circles could just be from a drop or 3. If you're just now catching him vaping, could be why he clammed up, especially if under age. You're The Dad, you'd know him better.
 

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Thanks. The perfect circles looked odd. I figured it was a leak. The pen does look crappy. Is there a way to tell if it's THC oil vs. Typical juice? By the way, I asked. Totally clammed up for now - I get it.
Smell it, or take a puff yourself but looks like regular ol ejuice residue to me

If it were the stuff you're worried about it would most likely be very tar-like and sticky.

Neither one are gonna kill him though, so take some deep breaths and try to maintain a healthy relationship with your kid.
 

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Thanks. I'm not angry or coming down hard. If he wasn't flunking classes it would be better. Thanks for the information and advice.
 

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By the way, how would I take a puff? I only have the tissue - not the juice. It smells faintly like cigar.
 

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If you don't have his vape pen, or whatever he's using, then you won't be able to. A lot of juice flavors are made to resemble tobaccos.
 

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By the way, how would I take a puff? I only have the tissue - not the juice. It smells faintly like cigar.
Grab his vape Pen, push the button, and take a pull from the mouthpiece. Just ask him to see it for a second, express some interest, and take a drag.

Best case, it opens a dialog between you two so you can more healthily discuss this matter. If he wasn't a smoker you can ask if the juice he is using contains nicotine or not, etc to ease your mind a bit.

Worst case, you take a drag and it brings ya back to when you were his age. Hehehe.

At the end of the day a LOT of teenagers are vaping because all of their friends are doing it and is therefore the cool thing to be doing. Of course as an adult I don't agree with that logic, but I do remember being a teen and know it hasn't gotten any easier. On the bright side, I'd rather find my kid were vaping than discovering they were smoking cigarettes. One is a fad to them... the other a lifetime of addiction, poverty, and ultimately a death-sentence.
 

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Sometimes I think BigNasty should just go buy a fucking pack of smokes already. Might take the edge off.
 

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Just saying, the guy consistently acts like he's on day one of going cold turkey. He's gonna stroke out one way or another, might as well enjoy himself.
 

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Truth be told, I just re-read BN's post on this thread and it wasn't deserving of my earlier response. I just happened to read Sharkvapes comment and it reminded me of some of the other comments BN has made in the past and I commented without really remembering what BN had actually said above. My bad here.
 

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If it is a spank rag I would say the boy needs a dr.
Juice leak
OR it is stained from someone using co2 extract or another form of verboten substance in a pen rig.
I have seen some pen rigs stained like that and they were NOT ejuice.

Was not meant to be an asshole just guessing on what it was.
 

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Smell it, or take a puff yourself but looks like regular ol ejuice residue to me

If it were the stuff you're worried about it would most likely be very tar-like and sticky.

Neither one are gonna kill him though, so take some deep breaths and try to maintain a healthy relationship with your kid.
And no it would not be sticky and tar like.
In fact the stuff on the market is pretty damned clear and not tarry or sticky since there is no organic compounds to burn.
 

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Ok I think we got all the bases covered here and I am hoping this does not turn into talk of the other any more than it has :)
 

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I sincerely appreciate all the comments. Reality checks are often crude and seemingly undeserving. I'm not offended or surprised. BN and all of you gave me things to think about and terms to look up - hehe. Yes, I was a teenager once and know how some of my bad decisions potentially altered my life. The relationship is the most important thing, I get that. Understanding the magnitude and hopefully the purpose of his use is important as I figure out the rest.
 

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I don't personally understand, or even agree with how this forum failed to help this man. He came here looking for opinions, and a possible ID of something he found in his son's belongings. No one has been prohibited in assisting someone asking if his son could be using a vape pen to vape other substances than eliquid. And by that sentence, I feel it's pretty clear what I mean without having to spell it out.

We have very simple rules in this forum. It's all to easy to mention things without dropping bombs for google identifiers. We have enough to worry about with possible regulations looming over our heads, than to worry over the fact that certain topics are simply NOT ALLOWED for discussion here.

The Dad came here asking for help, and based on his most recent reply, he received help. Looks like Dad gets to have a little heart to heart with his son. Family bonding moment, whether it turns out to be ejuice, or other substances.

You're taking this more personally than Dad.

I realize you weren't addressing me with the previous post, but I felt like expressing my opinion because I'm a member, too.
 

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First of all, TheDad is a great Dad!
Him coming here, just reinforces that. For any parent to do that to ensure his child is ok speaks volumes. We did not fail him, however; and, none of rules were broken. He came here for help, and he has received it. He will also continue to receive it, whenever he asks.


Just like he was concerned about a slippery slope, the staff and ownership here have the same slope of concern.
 

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If you still are stuck on the mindset of specific devices for use then you are putting head in sand.
Same gear we use can be used depending on the delivery of it.

I just put it out there as blunt as possible, no pussy footing around the bush on it.
If it was biological would you put in your mouth @Shark Vape, or nic if you did not use tobacco, or even the verboten if it could have serious ramifications of carrier and legal damage?

The only one here that got sand in their underoos was you shark. Stop trying to white knight everything I post... if I did not know better you have a serious ECF type boner for me.
 

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I appreciate the kind words. And, I appreciate the banter and the push for deregulating and vice versa. I'm sure there are forums where each conversation belongs but, this was my forum choice today - you can thank your website SEO for that.
As for my fathering, I'm here for a reason I guess - always room for improvement.

As for BN, I'm sure my son is experimenting. As for being a phead, I will do my best to make sure he continues to be a productive member of society, grateful, and humble like he already is. As you probably know, abuse and irresponsibility is not sustainable. He doesn't know that yet.
 

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I appreciate the kind words. And, I appreciate the banter and the push for deregulating and vice versa. I'm sure there are forums where each conversation belongs but, this was my forum choice today - you can thank your website SEO for that.
As for my fathering, I'm here for a reason I guess - always room for improvement.

As for BN, I'm sure my son is experimenting. As for being a phead, I will do my best to make sure he continues to be a productive member of society, grateful, and humble like he already is. As you probably know, abuse and irresponsibility is not sustainable. He doesn't know that yet.
Hey I was not trying to be negative.
But it is what kids do.

Just an fyi you do not need a dedicated specialty rig for the verboten extract.
 

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Oh, a leaky pen might explain his obsession with duct tape. Now I gotta figure out why he's collecting Wrigley's wrappers.

He's doing this alone in his room. I can smell it so, I suppose this is not a peer pressure thing unless they are playing black ops and seeing each other. It's gotta be something other than nicotine or harmless juice. Sometimes I feel like I have to catch him red handed because he can just deny smells with no hard evidence. I'm being dumb, ignore all that. Just blabbing now.
 

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No not at all do you think that.
Your house is very much on the line if he bringing it in there.

I would take the door off the hinges, everything but a bare bed would be gone.
 

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Wow. Not the answer I expected. I'll be thinking about that one for awhile.
 

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Honestly you are looking at a total mess no matter how ya slice it.
If it is just nic juice it is not as bad.

All the other stuff for a teenager is high risk as hell.
 

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Agreed. Messes provide opportunity to rebuild. He's a sophomore. I remember those days. I still have time. I would guess we're less than a year into whatever but, we'll see what we can do with it. I'm gonna be tired and he's got two little brothers in the next room over - makes me angry about that.
 

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The gum wrappers are a huge red flag - a quick google search I just did would make me very worried as a parent.
 

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Ya buddy, an ass kicking and revocation of luxuries are in short order.

Protip... use a phone book it does not leave a mark.
 

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Are we reading the same thread? He posted and was quickly told not to discuss that and referred to the rules.
So I'm unclear on how he "will continue to receive it".

The rules are clear: 'No mj talk of any sort'.


It is not possible to help or advise any similarly concerned parent under such a tight rule as above...
...unless you break the rule... or bend the responses to fit Google Analytics.

For the record, I support not blending this forum with the pro-weed crowd. Geez, they're worse than the direct lungers! :)
But IMO, Rule #1 today, kept this NON pro-weed guy from getting all the help available, because it is forbidden.

Just suggesting... mebbe it's time to reword it.
are you reading the thread? He is getting help and advice. Maybe you can ad to that part of the conversation in a constructive manner.
I cannot so I am merely reading the thread.
 

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OK Dad best case it is a faulty pen, with just standard cigar flavored e juice. And is heating on the foil. Which would bring a whole next level of not good for anyone cancer risk wise.
While not bad is the verboten green stuff, while not bad in and of itself for a developing brain it is not good.
From there the options just get darker and filthy.

If it is something you are unsure of if he actually admits it you can feel free to pm and I will do my all to point you in the right direction.

OH if there are pain meds, adhd meds, or other ssri meds in the house you better do a pill count or limit his access to them. Even some otc allergy meds and cough meds are abused.
 

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I'd be way more concerned about foils than I would be about a nic pen. If he's using it for other things, this needs to get nipped in the bud. He's so young to go down such a dangerous road.
 

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Looks like coffee stains or something similar...That definitely isnt from drugs....you dont need to be concerned.
 

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Looks like coffee stains or something similar...That definitely isnt from drugs....you dont need to be concerned.
coffee don;t collect foils, fail in school and sure do not smell like cigars.
 

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F***ing bullshit.
I get that you wanna have the abrasive online personna. But you go way over the line sometimes dude.
So if you wanna get real nasty personal with people, like calling that girl's pic scary or running your mouth about people's kids, you might get called on that. Props on your helpful posts that came after your rudeness.
Fuck you.
Take your own advice and shut the fuck up.
 

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If it doesnt have a smell then its not any drugs I know of, Most have Distinct smells that dont fade and its prominent on anything they touch...
All the evidence in the world could point in that direction but without there being anything actually there your only going to hurt your sons and your relationship. Calling him out is a bad idea...If you believe your song/daughter is using then the best way is to work your way up to talking about it, you need to show you care for him/her and ask without giving off vibes of judgment or anger. If you dont do this you will only push them away with negativity and they will feel judged and depressed. You want to show love and care....
 
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Again, you've missed the point. Stop the snarkiness & listen. I'm talking about what's constructive globally.

This thread has been allowed to continue but still violates Rule #1 up & down.
My point is only that there should be a way to advise folks like this without violating the rules.

This thread was started by a father looking for answers to questions pertaining to his son's welfare. I would like it to remain focused on that point.
Thank you,
your points are dually noted and respected, please respect mine and those of the OP.
 

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Sorry for the confusion. It's not foil wrappers - they are paper. Not too worried about the wrappers but heeding to the pill counting advice.
 

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Thank god not the foil.
Some kids get into hording stuff, and off the wall stuff at that.
I knew a kid growing up that collected gum from under desks, he was strange.
 

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