Best Mini RTA?

[CJ]

As the title states I'm looking for the best Mini RTA's out there right now. I'm sick of dealing with 4-6ml+ juice tanks and the RTA being larger than my mods, I'd be fine with anything 1-3ml, but anything over 3 seems to just make the tanks huge in height.

Thanks!

 

[JERUS]

It's not really an RTA, but it's small and excellent. Not really a great travel device in that it will leak if layed on it's side too long.

But, Haze Dripper Tank, great flavor and nice and tiny. I use it on the Aspire CF Mod, 1 18650 battery, running about .2Ω and it is just in every way more enjoyable than my TFv4 that's sitting on a 180w mod.

It's a genny style though and everything is press fit, so it'll fall apart in your pocket and eventually leak. But it's still really nice.

 

[CJ]

It's not really an RTA, but it's small and excellent. Not really a great travel device in that it will leak if layed on it's side too long.

But, Haze Dripper Tank, great flavor and nice and tiny. I use it on the Aspire CF Mod, 1 18650 battery, running about .2Ω and it is just in every way more enjoyable than my TFv4 that's sitting on a 180w mod.

It's a genny style though and everything is press fit, so it'll fall apart in your pocket and eventually leak. But it's still really nice.

Do you use an authentic or a clone?

 

[JERUS]

I'm using the clone, can't really complain about anything with it. And can't even find the Authentic , I didn't want to drop the $100+ but I've been hoping they'd become reasonable so I could at least funnel my money towards the innovators to support, but yeah whatever.

I guess I could say the deck is a little funky but easy enough to work with. I'd love if it as a velocity deck, but ehh, there's the Avocado for that if I wanted to pull the trigger on that.

 

[Valkyrie]

steam crave aromamizer w/velocity style build deck...look no further

 

[N8Julo43]

Definitely the Goblin Mini. The only con is the juice fill, but even with that con, it is fantastic.

 

[Huckleberried]

Goblin Mini. Screw fill doesn't bother me.

 

[PaulS]

I have both the aromamizer mini and the haze dripper. Now some people do not like the haze. I'm a big fan. I find the taste is spot on - similar to the mini. I have had no issues yet with the haze but the wire holes are small and it works best dual vertical. I would say it is finicky to build on but once you get it right a pleasure. Wicking is easy peasy ... just drop the cotton to the bottom of the tank. I never get a dry hit until the tank is near empty. It is also basically a top fill ... remove the cap and fill.
The aromaizer is nice but I find the flavor is not quite as good as the haze. The haze is dripper flavor all the way ... short distance from coils to lung, lol. I enjoy the aromamizer thiugh as it has never leaked on me, is easier to build and wicks pretty well. I managed to get a .09 build in mine!

 

[slikkywuwu]

I am looking for the best build for my Aromamizer. I don't know if this has been previously posted somewhere else but if it has I apologize. I have tried every type of build I am familiar with, from Clapton builds to standard kanthal builds. I am trying to get the absolute best flavor out of my tank. I can say if I hit it more than three times in a moderate period of time, say one minute, I am going to get a dry hit. Again if this is in the wrong thread please let me know and I will gladly ask somewhere else. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

 

[JERUS]

Examine your wicking style, if you can use less cotton/spread it out more then you should see results, if you try that and you get leaking (it's a lot of trial and error to find that perfect medium) then use more cotton, and so on.

If wicking isn't the issue take a look at your coil, and it goes without saying the power you're applying. Some coils simply come in too low at a lower wattage, and by the time they're starting out solid they're burning a second later. I'm a fan of Twisted builds as it generally remedies this situation, but ehh I'm just spitballing ideas.

Considering that you can get good hits I'd put my money on wicking being the issue. It can be very annoying how fine of a line it is between burnt hits and leaking, but it's there, people have done it with every tank out there.

 

[slikkywuwu]

Thank you for the help Jerus. I think you were correct on the wicking. I just built a parallel 26g 7 wrap and wicked it very light. As long as it doesn't leak I am pleased with the flavor it is putting out. Its not quite as warm of a vape as I like but the flavor is starting to get better.

 

[Ian91]

I've been using a Tilemahos V2 from FT for the last month. Holds 3ml, has juice control that actually works, air control for an airy MTL. You can refill it on your mod without any leaking. I have it on an XVOStick. Perfect stealth vape.

 

[blakemorder]

I'll put in another vote for the haze, its just an rda with a 3ml juice well so simple to build, wick and vape. I haven't vaped a tank in months but I still use the haze. I'm currently thinking about picking up an avocado myself
Edit: its also no bigger than a the average rda on top of my mods to it looks good too.

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[CJ]

I appreciate all the responses, to reply to a few of them;

• Goblin Mini RTA - While it has almost everything I'm looking for, I dislike the drip-tip and I haven't used a 510 drip tip in over 6 months, kind of worried about that.
• Haze RTA - Looks great, though I'd much rather have authentic this would push this far out of my "acceptable" range.
• Steam Crave Aromamizer - I like most of what this tanks about, mostly the deck. I've heard good and bad about the rubber airflow ring, of the 3 this is looking closer to what I was looking for.
• Avocado Genesis RTA - This thing looks awesome.. any opinions? ( http://www.vaportekusa.com/avocado-genesis-tank-by-geek-vape/ )

 

[JERUS]

The Avocado is the first thing to tempt me in a couple months. I've simply been enjoying the Haze and my other setups so much I see no point in buying anything else. But that velocity deck, well excellent. Some excellent things have come out lately but I guess I'm just one of those that doesn't seek perfection once they have something that makes them happy.

The one thing I really like about the Haze that the Avocado doesn't provide is that offset drip tip, I often take the cap off and fire the thing for various reasons (clear the cotton, just to inspect a build, whatever) and the amount of juice spurting off that bad boy is a bit frightening. So the idea of all that going right up into my mouth, ehh it's a concern I have.

As an aside, reading some of the current threads mentioning the Aromamizer, I might do a little more research. @raymo2u has basically every good RTA to come to the market lately and puts some wicked builds on them, even he's a bit unhappy with that one, so I'd say there's some concern (maybe he'll pop in here and comment).

Last I'll say is 3fvape is selling the Haze clone for $10, I'm having no issues with it at all. That said I have complete understanding about wanting to stay away from clones on an ethical base, tip my hat to that, but if your concern is simply functionality, well, you shouldn't worry about that. I wanted to stay away from clones because I think it's wrong, but when you put $100+ in one hand an $10 in the other, well, suddenly I don't feel so bad about it. Had the Avocado existed when i was looking at the Haze, or if it had, if I knew about it, well you can bet I'd probably have that thing right now.

So I'd narrow that down to either the Goblin or the Avocado, now the question is, are you looking for travel capabilities? The Goblin is a bit of a pain with the bottom fill, but the Avocado if anything like the Haze (which I assume it is with the press fitting) will fall apart in your pocket and leak if left on it's side too long. With that in mind if you're looking for something to pocket and bring along with you, well the goblin for sure, if you're looking for the best vape experience not worried about the travel aspect, well that Genesis style RTA is quite fantastic with the nearly impossible to screw up wicking and easy fill.

 

[dre]

Pico 1st then goblin mini IMO

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[skeene]

pico clones are cheap on FT, looks interesting...

 

[raymo2u]

The Avocado is the first thing to tempt me in a couple months. I've simply been enjoying the Haze and my other setups so much I see no point in buying anything else. But that velocity deck, well excellent. Some excellent things have come out lately but I guess I'm just one of those that doesn't seek perfection once they have something that makes them happy.

The one thing I really like about the Haze that the Avocado doesn't provide is that offset drip tip, I often take the cap off and fire the thing for various reasons (clear the cotton, just to inspect a build, whatever) and the amount of juice spurting off that bad boy is a bit frightening. So the idea of all that going right up into my mouth, ehh it's a concern I have.

As an aside, reading some of the current threads mentioning the Aromamizer, I might do a little more research. @raymo2u has basically every good RTA to come to the market lately and puts some wicked builds on them, even he's a bit unhappy with that one, so I'd say there's some concern (maybe he'll pop in here and comment).

Last I'll say is 3fvape is selling the Haze clone for $10, I'm having no issues with it at all. That said I have complete understanding about wanting to stay away from clones on an ethical base, tip my hat to that, but if your concern is simply functionality, well, you shouldn't worry about that. I wanted to stay away from clones because I think it's wrong, but when you put $100+ in one hand an $10 in the other, well, suddenly I don't feel so bad about it. Had the Avocado existed when i was looking at the Haze, or if it had, if I knew about it, well you can bet I'd probably have that thing right now.

So I'd narrow that down to either the Goblin or the Avocado, now the question is, are you looking for travel capabilities? The Goblin is a bit of a pain with the bottom fill, but the Avocado if anything like the Haze (which I assume it is with the press fitting) will fall apart in your pocket and leak if left on it's side too long. With that in mind if you're looking for something to pocket and bring along with you, well the goblin for sure, if you're looking for the best vape experience not worried about the travel aspect, well that Genesis style RTA is quite fantastic with the nearly impossible to screw up wicking and easy fill.

I would buy the Avocado or Griffin TBH, the rest out there havent satisfied me or have shitty limitations, but thats just my opinion. I like building big coils as I like the vape they supply and there hasn't been anything until recently to feel the gap. The Crius V3, Aromamizer, Goblins, Bellus, Billow, Mutation MT, and others I cant think of have some sort of limitation of flaw that kills it for them, the Griffin shares none of the problems and is quality built. The VCMT is also a great option but the Juice control ring and taking it apart needs improvement, which is why I like the Griffin much more...
I will be trying the Diablo RTA and other recently released RTAs to see if they are any better but for now the only RTA I will suggest trying is the Griffin...
Here are some off the recent RTAs that people buy and the Velocity RDA as a baseline, as you can see the Griffin has more space then the RDA it gets its features from, and its still a 22mm RTA.
Left to Right: Crius, Aromamizer, Velocity and Griffin:


Biggest build without shorts/fitment issues in Aromamizer and Crius:

The Griffins Build, Same build in my Twisted Messes RDA except one Less wrap each Coil...

The biggest build I could fit in my Goblin Mini, which is a smaller build then all the above RTA's:



There isnt a Pain in the Ass part with the Griffin like the Aromamizer, it doesnt look empty when full, it is also top fill and when taking it apart it doesnt have juice hiding to spill all over the place. It also doesnt have parts like the Goblin Mini where every time you take it apart it doesnt take pliers or rubber things to turn it loose and filling that RTA sucks donkey balls. The Crius has a small deck, small holes and leaks/weeps around the AFC and its juice ports are just not big enough still. The mutation MT cant fit as big of builds and if not wicked PERFECTLY you will have a empty tank with a nice spill to clean up!
The Griffin has an easy top fill and juice control thats big enough to suck up juice no issues and can be closed easily to fill the RTA. It has 2mm postholes and bigger space to work with then the actual Velocity RDA. The tank comes apart easily and is very simple in design. There is a decent amount of headroom with wicking and if you wick to loose you can close the juice control down, if you wick to tight you can separate the tank from the deck (with juice intact) and fluff your cotton or cut to your liking. It has a Adjustable gold plated 510 pin for hybrids/conductivity. It comes with a Delrin Dript tip and a 520 Adapter that works (Unlike the Goblin Mini).
I have pumped this thing up over 180w while chain vaping to try for dryhits and I didnt have a hint of any. (I made sure everything was right though, Im sure you could make it so you get dryhits) I vape that build in it usually at 120w and the vape is warm, not hot, and dense/flavorful. Ive also put smaller coils in (24g 6 wraps 3mm ID) and it still a top performer, it doesnt loose warmth or flavor with smaller builds. The only problem someone could have is you cannot do single coil unless you fabricate a adapter...thats about it..

 

[drugarth]

wait a bit and get the goblin mini V2...no more fill screws!!

http://www.3fvape.com/rebuildable-a...ess-steel-3ml-22mm-diameter.html#.VqD7QY-cEuU

 

[raymo2u]

wait a bit and get the goblin mini V2...no more fill screws!!

http://www.3fvape.com/rebuildable-a...ess-steel-3ml-22mm-diameter.html#.VqD7QY-cEuU

Try the Diablo RTA...the small version...its what the GM should of been..

 

[skeene]

wait a bit and get the goblin mini V2...no more fill screws!!

http://www.3fvape.com/rebuildable-a...ess-steel-3ml-22mm-diameter.html#.VqD7QY-cEuU

first i've heard of this

 

[drugarth]

Try the Diablo RTA...the small version...its what the GM should of been..

Seems decent indeed, especially the velocity posts, like that! But don't like the looks as much and it's dual coil only....wish the GM V2 also had velocity posts. but I'll get me one (or 2,3 off the latter

 

[raymo2u]

Seems decent indeed, especially the velocity posts, like that! But don't like the looks as much and it's dual coil only....wish the GM V2 also had velocity posts. but I'll get me one (or 2,3 off the latter

Try the Deck on the GM

 

[drugarth]

Try the Deck on the GM

I did ...I have 9 of them....bougth 3 more jus the other day...and than they bring the V2...aargh

 

[raymo2u]

I did ...I have 9 of them....bougth 3 more jus the other day...and than they bring the V2...aargh

You tried the Diablo deck on the Goblin Mini?

 

[drugarth]

You tried the Diablo deck on the Goblin Mini?

ooh no....I thoguht you meant the GM deck in the GM LOL ...but it will fit the GM? That would be awesome!

 

[raymo2u]

ooh no....I thoguht you meant the GM deck in the GM LOL ...but it will fit the GM? That would be awesome!

Im not sure if the Diablo Deck would fit but if it did that would be a BADASS RTA, especially in black with a red tinted glass

 

[CJ]

Have any of you tried the Avocado Genesis RTA?

 

[aje81]

I used to be on the search for the best MtL vape for a while but have ultimately gravitated to the restricted lung hit and occasionally like a good flavorful mouth to lung vape.

So to list off my favorites it has to absolutely start off with The Hurricane V1.3 by E-Phoenix. This is a great mouth to lung and restricted lung vape depending on your setting.

Next up has to be the Origen Genesis V2 MkII. This thing was my favorite prior to dropping the $ on the Hurricane. It is right up there with the Hurricane and may actually top it out in flavor slightly. But this thing just guzzles juice when I use it on the restricted lung hit airflow option and isn't as easy to use as the Hurricane.

Next up is the Nectar micro. This thing is a flavor monster. And it looks incredible. I love this little atomizer but this needs to be treated more like a dripper rather than a tank due to its tiny capacity. At home this thing is on steady rotation.

Last and certainly not least is the Goblin Mini, yes I said it, the Goblin Mini!! Everyone on this thread that has mentioned the Goblin Mini is NOT wrong. This is just a flavor machine and I never leave home without one. I have one set up for direct lung hits and it still just puts out dense flavorful clouds. I also think it looks amazing, especially considering the price point. I currently have four of them and wouldn't get rid of any of them. They really shine if you put a Lightning vapes drip tip on them. After reading this thread I learned of the Goblin Mini V2 and am very interested. I love my high end atomizers but I think UD really outdid themselves on this little beautiful tank, and now that the V2 is top fill I just don't know how on earth you could go wrong with just buying one or four of these things.

 

[dre]

I think the pico is the best rta for restrictive lung to MTL. Authentics are hard to get. I just sold one on here so its possible to find.

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[Psychedelic Biscuit]

How about the Billow v2 nano? I never had a better RTA than the normal v2, no topfill ok but the airflow and flavor is just perfect, the nano is even better in flavor from what ive heard. The nano is just a smaller tank and a shorter chimney, if they would make the "air chamber" under the deck smaller, it would be perfect.
I ordered the Diablo rta clone, the small version, the funny thing is that the clone comes with much bigger juice channels (like the authentic 5ml version) and an additional drip tip.
The authentic 2,5ml version juice-channels are a joke.

 

[CJ]

I went with a Goblin Mini v2, just waiting on it to arrive and I'll post an update

Thanks everyone for your opinions!

 

[Sir_Kanthalot]

The Goblin Mini v2 & the Griffin. I'd trade all my other tanks for one more of each on them.

 

[Psychedelic Biscuit]

I just got the Diablo 2,5ml 3FVape clone.
This thing looks gorgeous in my opinion but the performance is just bad.
Topfill is cool but when you have no juice control and giant air holes under your coils going directly through your deck, yeah major flooding!
I dont know if the original has a topfill system which prevents pressing liquid down into your deck when closing it (like the K4) but the clone hasnt, and that always results in a lot of liquid ending up underneath the attys airflow ring and on your mod and everywhere.
The clone actually has NO airflow control, that thing is always wide open, with the massive chimney and the widebore tip it is just air.
I only have a boring v4a macro setup in it right now and with that massive airflow the vape sucks big time, if I crank up the wattage and temperature the vape gets dense and the clouds huge, but the atty gets ridiculous hot too. The deck is okay, the grub screws suck big time too...
In the end this thing is a super hot velocity rda with super annoying leakage and 2,5ml tank... Maybe with some clapton wire or other fancy builds it works better. I ordered a Billowv2 Nano now and I will be happy witht that
If the new goblin mini isnt leaking I maybe give it a try but do yourselves a favor and stay away from that diablo crap (at least from the clone).

edit: the insulator on the positive post is definitely not peek btw.

Cheers Dave

 

[Shawnski]

There is the Goblin mini nano kit coming out...

 

[raymo2u]

There is the Goblin mini nano kit comingView attachment 41192 out...

Its already on FT and has been for AWHILE...

The Best MINI RTA so far that Ive used is the Diablo 2.5ml...the rest are difficult to built on, to fill or lack in one way or another. The Diablo is a Griffin that uses Goblin Mini type wicking method and has topfill similar to the Griffin....and the Clone is around $9 on Fast Tech and 15-20 on Ebay (for faster shipping). I have the 5ml Larger version but I have the 2.5ml on the way...
It also comes with 2 Driptips, one Delrin and adjustable (top can be flipped) and a large metal tip.


Fast Tech 2.5ml Version parts and pieces:

 

[Shawnski]

What is FT. And where is it at?

 

[Huckleberried]

What is FT. And where is it at?

Fasttech, in China.

 

[WARCHOP37]

Its already on FT and has been for AWHILE...

The Best MINI RTA so far that Ive used is the Diablo 2.5ml...the rest are difficult to built on, to fill or lack in one way or another. The Diablo is a Griffin that uses Goblin Mini type wicking method and has topfill similar to the Griffin....and the Clone is around $9 on Fast Tech and 15-20 on Ebay (for faster shipping). I have the 5ml Larger version but I have the 2.5ml on the way...
It also comes with 2 Driptips, one Delrin and adjustable (top can be flipped) and a large metal tip.
View attachment 41193 View attachment 41194

Fast Tech 2.5ml Version parts and pieces:

Glad you're enjoying the Diablo. I still haven't encountered any major issues with mine and the flavor still kicks me in the face.

 

[raymo2u]

Glad you're enjoying the Diablo. I still haven't encountered any major issues with mine and the flavor still kicks me in the face.

I ordered 2 more yesterday and just received one in the mail today (4 Total)....Check out the VapeMail thread for what else I got in my Crate

 

[JERUS]

I ordered 2 more yesterday and just received one in the mail today (4 Total)....Check out the VapeMail thread for what else I got in my Crate

You get and try the clones yet? Thinking about putting a big order into FT and an extra $10 for a little tank like that doesn't sound like a bad idea.

 

[raymo2u]

You get and try the clones yet? Thinking about putting a big order into FT and an extra $10 for a little tank like that doesn't sound like a bad idea.

The others I ordered are the clones, the one today that came in was the clone an it looks exactly identical.

 

[Roadtrip635]

I have one the Diablo clones with adjustable air flow coming from FT, but still won't be in stock for a few days. I ordered it during their sale, so at less than $9, it was worth the chance on it.

 

[raymo2u]

I have one the Diablo clones with adjustable air flow coming from FT, but still won't be in stock for a few days. I ordered it during their sale, so at less than $9, it was worth the chance on it.

There isnt one with adjustable airflow...Unless its not a Diablo

 

[Roadtrip635]

There isnt one with adjustable airflow...Unless its not a Diablo

The 304SS Diablo clones have adjustable airflow. The bottom cogged piece has an inner lip for airflow control.

 

[Psychedelic Biscuit]

Its not adjustable while screwed down but there at least is some sort of ac, my 3fvape has none and it sucks big time (also no raised lips on the airholes on the deck = flooding). Im really tempted to get the FT clone now but the experience with the 3F was so bad...

 

[Psychedelic Biscuit]

I ordered 2 more yesterday and just received one in the mail today (4 Total)....Check out the VapeMail thread for what else I got in my Crate

How is the draw with the airflow closed a bit/a lot? Is it whistling/loud? Can you compare the adjustability (is that a proper english word ?) of the airflow to the billow or something like that?

 

[Roadtrip635]

Its not adjustable while screwed down but there at least is some sort of ac, my 3fvape has none and it sucks big time (also no raised lips on the airholes on the deck = flooding). Im really tempted to get the FT clone now but the experience with the 3F was so bad...

I looked at some of the clones on other sites as well, but the ones on FT looked better, plus it had the adjustable AF. Still gonna be a while before I get it though, won't be in stock for another 4 days or so.

 

[raymo2u]

The airflow is similar to the Griffin rta 4/5 open. Its a good balance of restriction and wide open. The plate at the bottom unscrews but it doesnt change much for the airflow. I havent dealt with leaking either. ..wick it like a goblin mini and your good.

Ill tear mine apart soon and show you some close ups for you guys..

 

[Psychedelic Biscuit]

I got my Diablo clone to work now, well its not my piece of cake but its blowin tha cloudz.
13 wraps of 0,44mm V4a around 3mm at 0,38 ohms. On my serial Box, thats around 150 watts
No more leaking because of shitloads of cotton in there. Flavor is great but I really dont like to take 0,5 second hits.
This thing is totally made for cloud chasers imho, you can build some serious stuff on that deck...
With this setup the tank lasts for around 20 hits, ridiculous