Anyone have any input on how I could bump up the creamy-ness on this fruit loops recipe.

skiibo4200 · Jan 16, 2016

So this is my variation on a "looper clone" I've been toying around with trying different percentages, this is where I'm at so far and need some input on bumping up the cream factor to this recipe.

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richardward77 · Jan 16, 2016

I'd do the fruit circles at 4% and up the Vienna cream to 2% see what that's like.

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SixFiveLive · Jan 16, 2016

How long have you let it steep? It can take a while for the creams to come out and the FC to calm down some. It doesn't really look like you need more cream. You might actually want to pull something out.

Huckleberried · Jan 16, 2016

I was thinking to reduce the Fresh Cream to maybe 1%. I personally choose Vanilla Classic over Vienna, but they're both great.

skiibo4200 · Jan 16, 2016

I've only had it steep 2 days I'll give it 7 to 10 days and see how it tastes.

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BenjaTheNinja · Jan 17, 2016

Looks like you have enough cream. The problem is you need time for all those flavors to gel properly. Especially Tfa fruit circles. That flavor is very over powering

stevegmu · Jan 17, 2016

Increase the diacetyl...

skiibo4200 · Jan 17, 2016

stevegmu said:
Increase the diacetyl...

Right after I grab my tin foil hat.

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skiball · Jan 17, 2016

Use hangsen cream its the creamiest cream of the creams lol

Heabob · Jan 17, 2016

skiball said:
Use hangsen cream its the creamiest cream of the creams lol

TFA Dairy Milk is quite similar IMO, but yes, Hangsen is a great one.

skiball · Jan 17, 2016

Heabob said:
TFA Dairy Milk is quite similar IMO, but yes, Hangsen is a great one.

Idk never tried tfa dairy milk but outa the 5 creams i've tried its the only one i'd call cream. Its not cream with vanilla or cinnamon or should be called whole milk. Just plain unsweetened cream.

Heabob · Jan 17, 2016

skiball said:
Idk never tried tfa dairy milk but outa the 5 creams i've tried its the only one i'd call cream. Its not cream with vanilla or cinnamon or should be called whole milk. Just plain unsweetened cream.

FW Milk & FW Tres Leches kinda surprised me as they're kinda milky/creamy too, maybe not as strong tho.
Just the impressions I get from tasting a drop on my finger.
But I haven't actually tried them out in anything yet.

stevegmu · Jan 17, 2016

skiibo4200 said:
Right after I grab my tin foil hat.

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If you believe it is harmless, just increase the amount until it tastes wonderful. That's what some companies do...

skiibo4200 · Jan 17, 2016

stevegmu said:
If you believe it is harmless, just increase the amount until it tastes wonderful. That's what some companies do...

I don't believe it is harmless but I do belive "popcorn lung" is a joke 8 people diagnosed in 200 years. And the fact a regular analog cig has 100 times the amount of diacetyl as the most potent e juice and no smoker out of billions has ever been diagnosed with "popcorn lung" ...
Big tobacco has to do something about their annual 20% loss in tobacco sales as well as quit smoking cesations funded by Big pharmacy.
With that being said I don't belive diacetyl is healthy for you but I belive eating Mc Donalds everyday is way worse and you don't see FDA regulations on fast food. It's a joke.. money is the Joker behind this joke.

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skiball · Jan 17, 2016

I like to save my tin foil hat for the important stuff like reptilians

stevegmu · Jan 17, 2016

skiibo4200 said:
I don't believe it is harmless but I do belive "popcorn lung" is a joke 8 people diagnosed in 200 years. And the fact a regular analog cig has 100 times the amount of diacetyl as the most potent e juice and no smoker out of billions has ever been diagnosed with "popcorn lung" ...
Big tobacco has to do something about their annual 20% loss in tobacco sales as well as quit smoking cesations funded by Big pharmacy.
With that being said I don't belive diacetyl is healthy for you but I belive eating Mc Donalds everyday is way worse and you don't see FDA regulations on fast food. It's a joke.. money is the Joker behind this joke.

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Then flavors high in DA/AP are your solution. That's what makes them creamy and buttery...

skiball · Jan 17, 2016

stevegmu said:
Then flavors high in DA/AP are your solution. That's what makes them creamy and buttery...

Do you know if hangsen cream is?

skiibo4200 · Jan 17, 2016

Sounds to me like they haven't disclosed their flavor information.. Wich leads me to think yes.. cause diacetyl free is a selling point these days.

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stevegmu · Jan 17, 2016

skiball said:
Do you know if hangsen cream is?

Given it is a Chinese company and they don't show test results, it is probably very high in DA/AP...

skiball · Jan 17, 2016

Hmm i'll do some research because Chinese e juice is government regulated. I've heard there strict about it.

skiibo4200 · Jan 17, 2016

skiball said:
Hmm i'll do some research because Chinese e juice is government regulated. I've heard there strict about it.

This states the opposite of what you was saying..

http://info-electronic-cigarette.com/quick-discussion-on-chinese-e-juice-manufactures/

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stevegmu · Jan 17, 2016

skiball said:
Hmm i'll do some research because Chinese e juice is government regulated. I've heard there strict about it.

You really aren't being serious, are you? Chinese goods are strictly regulated?

skiibo4200 · Jan 17, 2016

Don't fall into main stream media and big tobacco fear mongering.

http://guidetovaping.com/2015/12/09/diacetyl-in-vaping-lets-tell-the-truth/

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skiball · Jan 17, 2016

skiibo4200 said:
This states the opposite of what you was saying..

http://info-electronic-cigarette.com/quick-discussion-on-chinese-e-juice-manufactures/

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That was pure speculation. Here's a clip from an article that seems a little more in the know.
http://www.vapehit.co.uk/info.php?articles&articles_id=22

In China, manufacturers must obtain nontoxic testing permits to regulate the amount of pure nicotine that is mixed with e-liquid batches, but no other documentation is needed to produce and distribute. Some concern has been raised over the quality of ingredients used in Chinese manufacturing, but no substantiated evidence has been brought forward to discredit Chinese manufacturers. Many Chinese companies comply with standards implemented by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO).

Manufacturers in China of e-liquid now have stringent hi-tech manufacturing plants with advanced quality control, and also offer certifications of MSDS and TUV VOM in order to comply with a reputable standard of quality together with a standardised safety module of their products having undergone an array of tests over their e-liquid contents

skiball · Jan 17, 2016

stevegmu said:
You really aren't being serious, are you? Chinese goods are strictly regulated?

There more regulated than we are i think fb is proof anyone can make and distribute e juice.

stevegmu · Jan 17, 2016

skiball said:
There more regulated than we are i think fb is proof anyone can make and distribute e juice.

Just like their pet food industry and e-cig industries? How about Hover boards and batteries? All strictly regulated and enforced?

skiibo4200 · Jan 17, 2016

skiball said:
That was pure speculation. Here's a clip from an article that seems a little more in the know.
http://www.vapehit.co.uk/info.php?articles&articles_id=22

In China, manufacturers must obtain nontoxic testing permits to regulate the amount of pure nicotine that is mixed with e-liquid batches, but no other documentation is needed to produce and distribute. Some concern has been raised over the quality of ingredients used in Chinese manufacturing, but no substantiated evidence has been brought forward to discredit Chinese manufacturers. Many Chinese companies comply with standards implemented by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO).

Manufacturers in China of e-liquid now have stringent hi-tech manufacturing plants with advanced quality control, and also offer certifications of MSDS and TUV VOM in order to comply with a reputable standard of quality together with a standardised safety module of their products having undergone an array of tests over their e-liquid contents

I guess I don't get what that clip was supposed to prove. Said nothing about government regulations or what they test the e juice for or what is considered "safe".

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skiibo4200 · Jan 17, 2016

All I know is last I knew they was shipping us oranges injected with hiv positive human blood... that's no joke.

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skiball · Jan 17, 2016

So answered my own question no diacetyl in hangsen or dekang

http://www.dekangbio.com/company/faq
http://hangsen.eliquidchina.com/what-is-e-liquid

skiball · Jan 17, 2016

stevegmu said:
Just like their pet food industry and e-cig industries? How about Hover boards and batteries? All strictly regulated and enforced?

Hover boards really gtfo i'm done.

stevegmu · Jan 17, 2016

skiball said:
So answered my own question no diacetyl in hangsen or dekang

http://www.dekangbio.com/company/faq
http://hangsen.eliquidchina.com/what-is-e-liquid

I would believe them about as much as I would believe Suicidebunny or 5 Pawns...

skiball · Jan 17, 2016

skiibo4200 said:
I guess I don't get what that clip was supposed to prove. Said nothing about government regulations or what they test the e juice for or what is considered "safe".

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Well they do have to get permits for the nic it not much but more than us.

skiibo4200 · Jan 17, 2016

skiball said:
So answered my own question no diacetyl in hangsen or dekang

http://www.dekangbio.com/company/faq
http://hangsen.eliquidchina.com/what-is-e-liquid

Well that's about the best we are gunna get unless you test um yourself. Most conclusive thing I've seen posted so far.

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skiibo4200 · Jan 17, 2016

skiball said:
Hover boards really gtfo i'm done.

This made me laugh. I can just see your reaction when you read that.

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skiball · Jan 17, 2016

skiibo4200 said:
This made me laugh. I can just see your reaction when you read that.

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You know all hope is lost of reasoning with a person that argues hover boards. Next this mofo gona be 4 real talking bout reptilians and the Chinese e juice conspiracy.

stevegmu · Jan 17, 2016

skiball said:
You know all hope is lost of reasoning with a person that argues hover boards. Next this mofo gona be 4 real talking bout reptilians and the Chinese e juice conspiracy.

English, do you speak it?...

skiball · Jan 17, 2016

stevegmu said:
English, do you speak it?...

When i'm not being serious i use slang. But i know you speak crazy. Hover boards!

lirruping · Jan 17, 2016

stevegmu said:
If you believe it is harmless, just increase the amount until it tastes wonderful. That's what some companies do...

harmless or harmful, this approach backfires in my experience.

rogereric · Jun 30, 2016

I think Vienna cream should 2% and sweet cream should be 1% to make it delightful.

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Anyone have any input on how I could bump up the creamy-ness on this fruit loops recipe.

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