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0.5 Coils Safe?

Most of the shops around me only sell OCC 0.5 Vertical or 1.2 Horizontal.

I have tried 0.5V coils, and they seem a lot better than 1.2H coils.
However,I have read that sub ohms can be dangerous, and I'd rather not take the risk when vaping. Exactly how dangerous are 0.5 coils running at 30 Watts, firing for about 2-3 seconds?
 

smacksy

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Most of the shops around me only sell OCC 0.5 Vertical or 1.2 Horizontal.

I have tried 0.5V coils, and they seem a lot better than 1.2H coils.
However,I have read that sub ohms can be dangerous, and I'd rather not take the risk when vaping. Exactly how dangerous are 0.5 coils running at 30 Watts, firing for about 2-3 seconds?
Not dangerous at all...

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robot zombie

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Steam engine has a calculator for this, here. Just plug in the resistance and the voltage your device shows at the wattage you set it to. It will give you the amount of current being pulled in amps. So long as you do not exceed the continuous amp limit specified for your batteries or device (applicable only when using a device with a built-in battery,) you will have nothing to worry about. It is common practice to stay 20-30 percent under the limit, which is easily done at .5 with most suitable cells.

According to that, a .5 at 3.9v will generate 30.42 watts and draw 7.8 amps of current, which for most devices and batteries, is well within the acceptable range.

A member here by the name of mooch has done rather exhaustive testing on many commonly used batteries and compiled a chart that can help put you in the ballpark of what sort of amp loads different batteries can safely bear in this thread. Right-click on the image and choose to view it to get full size. Follow the directions on the chart and stay under or within the power levels highlighted in yellow or green for your batteries and you'll be fine.
 
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Thanks for the useful info. Not sure if those sites answer this question; but is it unwise to run on a low battery? I own a Subox, and this is my first device with a changeable battery, and I am used to devices giving me a flashing indicator that the battery is low. Instead this will device seems to work even when it is on its final battery bar instead of flashing a notice.. I use a Samsung INR18650-25R 2500mAH 3.6v
 

robot zombie

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Well, you are correct to have concerns with over-discharging batteries. The types of batteries we use do not tolerate being over discharged very well. Once you start getting down to the range of 2.8v or lower (varies slightly from battery to battery,) the battery chemistry essentially starts to become destabilized. It damages the battery. At best, it simply will not hold a charge anymore. At worst, it may fail and vent while charging.

However, the subox (like pretty much any other regulated device on the market) will not allow you to discharge your battery to a dangerously low voltage, so no worries. It won't let you run your batteries too low. It probably cuts off somewhere around 3v-3.2v. I can't find the exact number - it may even be a touch higher than that. Some regulated devices have a 3.5v cutoff.

The battery bar corresponds to a limited range of resting voltages. An empty bar does not equate to hitting the minimum voltage for your battery. For instance, if a full bar is 4.2v and the cutoff is 3v, then the bar will be empty when the battery reaches 3v, even though the battery is technically not fully-discharged.

At any rate, 3v is generally the lowest you'd want to be discharging a battery to in order to minimize strain and wear on the battery. Most high-drain batteries will handle that just fine, but may not survive for quite as many charge cycles before they start sagging and failing to hold a charge. Generally, the higher the voltage your battery is at, the longer the overall lifespan of the battery will be.

The Samsung 25r is an excellent battery. I own many of them myself. Its minimum discharge voltage is 2.5v, which is fairly low. I think it's safe to assume that your subbox will cut you off long before the battery is discharged that low. I personally do not discharge them below 3.5v and they have continued to perform very well for about 6 months of daily use, now.


Does your charger show a voltage readout when you drop the batteries in? If not, I'd recommend you look into one. There are two and four sleds out there with intelligent charging features in the $20-$40 range from Efest, Nitecore, and Xtar. They're very helpful for seeing just how far you're taking your batteries.
 
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BigNasty

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Honestly in a regulated device able to fire it you have a buffer between the battery and atty.
I would be more concerned on a sub ohm coil with silica or unknown filler than a sub box blowing up.
 

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