Advice.....Kanger Subtank Mini or Nano and Ego ONE

[d.weglarz13]

Hey guys. I have been searching but haven't found an answer. I am looking into the Kanger subtank Mini.
I just love everything about it, and about to order one but have a few questions first.

First off, I come from smoking Newports, so I am looking for a cooler vape than a lot of people seem to love. At the store by me, I tried a bunch of different setups, and the subtank mini wasn't bad when I turned down the voltage to like 20 watts on an istick 30 box battery. I also love the look and quality of the subtank mini and nano. But, please give me some advice if you can on the cooler vape. I also seem to prefer a tighter draw, like cigarettes, and the mini subtank with only one hole open seems to work good for me.

If I understand correctly, I will probably use the 1.2 ohm coil for cooler hits? I really want to get into rba also, but not if the rebuildables are only good for huge clouds and HOT vape.

Is there a way to shoot for a cooler hit with a RBA?

Another question also. I am in love with the ego ONE battery, in that beautiful small slim form factor with the subtank nano being the same diameter, it would just make the experience that much better for me, since form factor really means a lot to me.

But, is there any reason the ego ONE battery(unregulated, no variable voltage) wouldn't work? I mean, i still am unsure if I will like the 1.2 or .5 coils for the bit cooler hit, so I may have to run both with the battery. Everyone seems to recommend the istick 30, but I kinda hate the look/form factor of that setup.



I hope this all makes some sense, I really am desperate to place an order, but just don't have the funds to buy extra crap right now. And, Im not sure I will "love" the setup with the istick box style battery, and I really want to quit smoking. Having it on me all day and night, and using it is very important for me to be successful at quitting the cigs. So, please don't think me as offensive about the box batteries looking bad, its just my opinion. But I saw some pics of the nano with the ego One battery and i'm just in love.


If anyone can help me out, and save me from making a bad decision, it would really help out. The combo of these tanks and ego one just looks so nice. But, if the box type is a must, then I will have to live with that.

Thanks so much in advance. I am desperately looking and searching for my answers, but can't seem to find any real info on this.


Dave

 

[AmandaD]

I have some mini subtanks -you can build the coils at the resistance you want, so you can customize them to anything you want. If you want a cooler vape of course you can also turn down the watts. If you don't want to use the RBA section you can just use the 1.2 ohm coil instead of the 0.5 for a slightly cooler vape. The Ego-One isn't vv, so you can't change the wattage/voltage, which means presumably that it'll be hotter when the battery is fully charged.

I agree that the Ego-one is pretty but I prefer the customization of the subtank and the Istick.

 

[Caboose]

As Amanda said with the rebuildables you can build for different resistances to get you your perfect vape. I prefer a cooler vape as well, and I have a different tanks. Just recently picked up the subtank mini and I'm really liking it so far, I jumped straight into using the RBA deck so I can't speak for the OCC coils, but so far its been great. I prefer a tighter draw as well as I like to do mouth to lung hits, I find the mini has maybe a bit too much airflow for me for that. I've found that for mouth to lung hits, my go to tank is the Aspire nautilus mini, it's got the perfect draw on the largest setting for me and it's not too hot. For direct lung draws I find myself bouncing between the subtank mini and my lemo drop. I think I prefer the mini so far, my lemo gets warm quick and I'm running a 1.1ohm build on it right now vs the .5 ohm I'm running on the mini.

As far as your battery choice goes, if you enjoy a cooler vape I would recommend you get a VV/VW mod as it will allow you to adjust as you need to get exactly what you want. It's much easier changing a setting on your battery to get a cooler vape, then to open up your tank and rebuild the coil and re-wick it to get the same. Plus different juices are going to produce clouds, and flavor differently which will require different wattages and/or coils.

 

[AmandaD]

I just re-read your thread, and it reminded me that you're trying to give up smoking.

Be aware that no matter what you buy now, you'll be buying more stuff in the future (think of all the money you'll save from not smoking!). Follow your heart on this one. If something about it bugs you to start with you may have less success giving up smoking. And as its your first setup you won't know what you're missing with other setups - and it just doesn't matter at this point. If you like the Ego-one, go for it. It's a simple setup, and I don't think your'e going to start rebuilding right away (for the subtank). If you go with the Ego-one though do go with the higher ohm coil for a cooler vape.

One more thing to be aware of though is that neither of those batteries will last you all day in all likelihood. Be prepared to charge during the day or think of buying something less expensive so you can buy two.

 

[d.weglarz13]

Thanks guys for the quick replies. I wasn't sure if either battery would last all day, so thanks for that info. It may just pay to splurge on both after all.

I am just weary about the fact that like Amanda said, the One may give a hotter vape when fully charged, and less so when it depletes. So, not sure how I feel about that. But, again the look and feel/form factor is important, because it may just be (for me, anyways) the factor between this working for me in my everyday life or not.

Yea, the subtank is a bit too much airflow for my normal mouth to lung hits, and when I tried it in the store with some juice I didn't like so much, I found the first time coughing my head off, then after that I kinda just started getting used to it and before I knew it I was lung inhaling without even realizing. So, I'm not even positive I will stay a "mouth to lung" kinda guy. Although, I'm sure I won't just get rid of that habit, since I have been doing it with analogs for over 15 years now. So, again Im not even sure I will get into RBA's. But on the other hand, if you guys say I can build however I want, maybe I can get a nice cool vape by rebuilding, plus I love to tinker.

I just love the ego one with the nano.............vape problems.....

 

[AmandaD]

LOL well, you're going to end up with the ego one - even if you also get the other setup. That's just the way it works (This is the beginning of 'shineyitis...')

 

[d.weglarz13]

I believe you're right...lol

 

[OBDave]

Rule one in an earnest effort to quit smoking - have backups.

Rule two - have backups for your backups.

You never want to be stuck without an ability to vape and needing your nic fix because your device is down. That said, if you have the budget, get both the iStick and the Ego - you'll eventually decide which is your favorite, and the other one will be a backup you can use while the primary one is recharging.

I'd also recommend 2 tanks, but these new generation clearos like the sub tanks are expensive - I just bought my first this week after a long holdout due to price...maybe get one, and try one of the better last-generation devices like an Aspire Nautilus? Only drawback there is two coil types to keep on hand, though you'll get a tighter draw and still-good vapor production that might be closer to the cig experience for a new convert...whatever you decide, good luck!

All the cool guys are named Dave...

 

[d.weglarz13]

Thanks again guys for the help.. Btw, anyone feel like sharing, if lets say I wanted to build a nice set up for cool vape, what should I order to start playing around? I think I need thinner gauge wire, but what gauge? Cotton?, etc.... it would help out when I place the order today.

I think I may just be ordering both, as to have the extra battery as back up. I know, being so broke I shouldn't spend the money on two batteries, but hey, I'm sure this won't be the end....I appreciate all the help guys.

dave

 

[AmandaD]

The subtank mini RBA can be tricky. If the channels are properly drilled it's a piece of cake, but so many come with channels that need to be widened (I use a diamond file) that it could put you off rebuilding. So, as long as you're aware of that, check out http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp? for wrapping info. You can customize your coils, and this will give you the best idea of what to use as far as wire gauge. The RBA does come with a couple of spare coils and some japanese cotton. I either use rayon (cellucotton) or japanese cotton.

 

[Smokeybear]

I was a pack a day smoker for 15 years and the istick 30w with a nano did it for me but I switched to the mini a couple weeks after because I needed more capacity and a way to try building coils. It has worked really well for me and I would recommend it to anyone trying to quit.


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[Smokeybear]

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[d.weglarz13]

Hey guys, so I am searching to find an istick30, and a subtank mini, but they seem to be sold out, like everywhere. This is not good....

 

[AmandaD]

They'll be back in stock soon. People are coming out of the Chinese New Year, so shipments should be starting again soon. I did find the Istick at VapeNW - but it's only in pink The place I got my last subtank mini from is expecting a couple of hundred in a few days. Let me find the thread:
http://vapingunderground.com/thread...-orders-subtank-sale.53568/page-3#post-357395

 

[d.weglarz13]

Ok update.

So, ordered the One kit online as I found it from the Joyetech site for a couple bucks more than others, but not bad. I think it was 60 bucks for the whole 1100mah kit.

Couldn't find the istick30 or the mini.


So, off to the store and got them! Couldn't wait any longer lol. I'm loving this thing already!


Quick question. Is it bad to have the tank on the battery when charging. Just curious if I should charge with it removed or not. Thanks

Will update tomorrow....

 

[AmandaD]

Ok update.

So, ordered the One kit online as I found it from the Joyetech site for a couple bucks more than others, but not bad. I think it was 60 bucks for the whole 1100mah kit.

Couldn't find the istick30 or the mini.


So, off to the store and got them! Couldn't wait any longer lol. I'm loving this thing already! Will update tomorrow....

HAHA - did I not warn you about shineyitis? LOL So glad you were able to find them - keep us updated on how things go!

 

[DoWork69]

Hey guys. I have been searching but haven't found an answer. I am looking into the Kanger subtank Mini.
I just love everything about it, and about to order one but have a few questions first.

First off, I come from smoking Newports, so I am looking for a cooler vape than a lot of people seem to love. At the store by me, I tried a bunch of different setups, and the subtank mini wasn't bad when I turned down the voltage to like 20 watts on an istick 30 box battery. I also love the look and quality of the subtank mini and nano. But, please give me some advice if you can on the cooler vape. I also seem to prefer a tighter draw, like cigarettes, and the mini subtank with only one hole open seems to work good for me.

If I understand correctly, I will probably use the 1.2 ohm coil for cooler hits? I really want to get into rba also, but not if the rebuildables are only good for huge clouds and HOT vape.

Is there a way to shoot for a cooler hit with a RBA?

Another question also. I am in love with the ego ONE battery, in that beautiful small slim form factor with the subtank nano being the same diameter, it would just make the experience that much better for me, since form factor really means a lot to me.

But, is there any reason the ego ONE battery(unregulated, no variable voltage) wouldn't work? I mean, i still am unsure if I will like the 1.2 or .5 coils for the bit cooler hit, so I may have to run both with the battery. Everyone seems to recommend the istick 30, but I kinda hate the look/form factor of that setup.



I hope this all makes some sense, I really am desperate to place an order, but just don't have the funds to buy extra crap right now. And, Im not sure I will "love" the setup with the istick box style battery, and I really want to quit smoking. Having it on me all day and night, and using it is very important for me to be successful at quitting the cigs. So, please don't think me as offensive about the box batteries looking bad, its just my opinion. But I saw some pics of the nano with the ego One battery and i'm just in love.


If anyone can help me out, and save me from making a bad decision, it would really help out. The combo of these tanks and ego one just looks so nice. But, if the box type is a must, then I will have to live with that.

Thanks so much in advance. I am desperately looking and searching for my answers, but can't seem to find any real info on this.


Dave

heres what i can tell u from my experience ....

I just got a sub tank mini with the istick 50 w . I was using the shittest ego set up you can possibly buy before getting it . The change was dramatic ! and i new it would be and thats ok I'm the type of person who rather start on the advanced and learn cuz i know its only a matter of time I'm going to get it anyway.

how do i like it ? Well the tank itself haven't had any issues no leaking or anything , a slight machine oil taste at first so i went ahead and boiled to get it nice in clean.

The only thing i wish i new prior was how different the juice consumption is. To give u an idea i managed to vape 15ml in a day, I could vaped more but i ran out of juice. But the nic level in my juice was to low (3mg) , so i wasn't getting the nicotine i was craving. I switched to 6mg and actually even 12mg but that was me just trying to not use so much juice. 12 mg is vapable on the sub tank but it might be to strong for the average person and it def takes away from the flavor and u can't take big puffs either cuz even then its to harsh for me. 6mg seems to be a good point for most.

But this is where it comes down to what u want. You are going to get more flavor in the higher watts ( my opinion ) but higher watts u get a warmer vape . I personally prefer the warm hits . If i wasn't trying to cut back my juice consumption . my ideal settings seem to be at 22 watts with the .5 ohm coil. But I'm at 15 watts to try and limit that. Im pretty sure most sub ohm tanks have a peak in flavor at higher watts with a warmer vapor.

I don't know what the ego one can handle as far as ohms, you NEED to get that info. But besides that the fact that its not variable voltage is a total loss. The whole entire point of having that option is the ability to tune the watts to give u the puff / flavor you prefer. I highly recommend the istick 50 watt. It last long as shit especially if ur using a sub tank , sub tanks have best results at higher watt ( but 20-25watt is actually low compared to others thats why i liked it cuz it got great vapor production and flavor using less power , meaning ur battery last longer ) the istick should easily last u a day even maybe 3 depending how much u vape. I recommend the 50W because its the most competitive priced mod on the market, and its a reliable company. I say 50w over 30w only because fuck it if ur gonna buy a batt u might as well get something that has room to grow. That extra power is there if u ever need it in the future.

If you have access to try a sub tank mini do so and experiment with it. See what wattage works for what u like and is good for u as far as flavor and vapor.

Now the RBA is nice cuz if u plan on making ur own coils you can also experiment with those as well. But the sub tank is a sub ohm tank its kinda designed to use low Ohm coils. One piece of advice i can give is your going to have to practice wicking. I learned less is more , and it takes practice to figure out the right amount of cotton to use. Especially in the RBA because the holes that the juice suck into are very tiny, so if its not wicked properly you will get nasty dry hits. Plus watch you tube videos to give yourself somewhat of a starting point and reference.

But again vape with the sub tank and change the wattage and see how u like the results and how it fits you. Try to really tune into your sense's and see when its most flavorful . My only concerns for you is the fact the flavor comes out at watts that give u a warmer vape but its not that warm to me, also make sure you play with air flow on the sub tank , the largest air flow can cool the vape down but ur gonna be taking bigger hits . ( big direct lung hits )

 

[DoWork69]

god dammit i really should of read every post in this first

 

[d.weglarz13]

Okay you guys were right. I got more than I wanted, and already want to see what's up with rebuilding, and maybe even drippers, lol. I can see this is gonna get expensive, just like my other damn hobbies.(high end knives, flashlights, etc.). Oh well, I need some new toys in my life...

Been using the .5 coil, with mostly the full open air flow, and yea, this thing seems like it only really works for lung hits. I thought I was gonna hate that, but I find myself lung hitting the crap out of this thing. I just love it. My girl also got the same setup, in pink lol and loves it too. She actually went through a whole tank by the time I got through half. And, we are at the same settings so far. Next, is trying the 1.2 coil, and getting some good juice. The couple house blends the shop by me had, just suck. Very cough medicine taste.

I am happy I went with the variable voltage(although I did order the other crap coming in the mail too, lol) like you guys recommended. It does seem to make a big difference playing with even the watts. Thanks again for walking me though it, and really helping me and being patient with me.

I love vaping!



dave

 

[AmandaD]

This is wonderful news - I'm so glad it's all working out for you! The Ego one might work out for out and about - it's probably a bit smaller I tend to use my egrips when I go out because they're tiny and discrete!

 

[d.weglarz13]

yea guys, I'm pretty happy. I do have a question though. Is it fine to just stay in the wattage that it says on the coil? Example: on the subtank mini, the .5 coil says 15-30w. So, should that be ok as long as i don't go outside of those numbers? It seems like common sense, but just wanna make sure, ya know? thanks again guys for all the help and explanations. Really helps a guy like me out


dave

 

[Smokeybear]

No not necessarily that's just what they tested the coil to perform best at. But your standards or tastes may be different. That being said I found them to work well within there designated watts.


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[AmandaD]

yea guys, I'm pretty happy. I do have a question though. Is it fine to just stay in the wattage that it says on the coil? Example: on the subtank mini, the .5 coil says 15-30w. So, should that be ok as long as i don't go outside of those numbers? It seems like common sense, but just wanna make sure, ya know? thanks again guys for all the help and explanations. Really helps a guy like me out


dave

On the prebuilt coils you can go lower, depending on your juice/taste, but going higher you risk burning the insulator. You can go higher on the RBA section, if you ever use that. So, yes, in general stay within the limits recommended and you'll be fine!

 

[derricksmash]

Im rocking an ego one (1100mah) with the kanger nano. Love it.

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Back story:
New guy here. Found this post, it seemed you were in same boat as I was, which was basically trying to get information about the ego one.

I bought one amateur setup (itazte click), then realized it almost immediately alleviated my cigarette habit. The following day I bought a nicer tank for it (simple aspire ets), and loved it. then realized that when I ran out of juice or battery, I bought a pack of smokes. So I can reconfirm what someone said about having a backup!

Anyways having a smaller, shorter device was important to me. Which is why I liked the ego. I was willing to go with something fatter than a pen stick, especially if it meant being shorter. Basically the ego is a mod style to me, with a USB port for charging. In regards to needing a backup, it lasts me a day, but im already planning on getting the larger ego or an additional 1100mah to have as backup. The guys at the shop keep recommending boxier looking batteries to me, but I seem to lose all allure of the vaping thing with a device I can't just slip into my pocket or charge without removing batteries and stuff.

Someone else above said that you will buy a lot. It's true. I'm like 5 days into this, and have like 3 kits, with upgraded tanks, extra coils, etc. Finally settling with this ego one/ktech nano setup. Next week, I guarantee you i will have another ego one, and a few more nanos to keep everything the same. I'm weird like that.

 

[BoomStick]

Subtanks and rda's will make you want to get into DIY juice. It's so cheap to make your own juice that using liquid guzzling atty's doesn't even matter. Making cheap, personally customized juice makes vaping even better.

 

[Fidelissimo]

Sorry for being somehow off topic, but the following pic shows exactly what I'm looking for - since I pretty much crack my atti-glass on a somewhat regular base I'm looking for something that might work as a bumper and these 2 rings seem to be exactly what I want. I clicked through every shop I know, but havent seen anything alike here. In my despair I already tried these little "loom" rubber-things you use to make bracelets - bad idea.

What are they? Where are they from?
thx in advance

 

[AmandaD]

Vape bands! You can get them all over the place (I think I saw them on Fasttech too). I've seen them here:
http://vapeband.com/

 

[bkind]

Sorry for being somehow off topic, but the following pic shows exactly what I'm looking for - since I pretty much crack my atti-glass on a somewhat regular base I'm looking for something that might work as a bumper and these 2 rings seem to be exactly what I want. I clicked through every shop I know, but havent seen anything alike here. In my despair I already tried these little "loom" rubber-things you use to make bracelets - bad idea.

What are they? Where are they from?
thx in advance

They're called vape bands. You can get them here: http://vapeband.com/ enjoy it looks like they have a lot of options!

 

[Fidelissimo]

Lightning fast reply.
Vapebands havent made it to europe - til now.
Thank u so, so much.

 

[OBDave]

Vape bands! You can get them all over the place (I think I saw them on Fasttech too). I've seen them here:
http://vapeband.com/

They're definitely on FT, though not in as many styles by a longshot...

 

[critterchugg]

Hey OP I am just like you. New to vaping I started off with the ego one which I loved, but disliked the small tank and not being able to see the level of juice. So I ordered the nano subtank, I had no idea it was compatible with the ego. So I ordered the Istick 20 with it. But it really is an ugly setup, the box mixed with the cylindrical nano tank.

So what I'm wondering is, are there any other cylindrical batteries with adjustable watts or battery display? Or just good cylindrical batteries in general?

I had a look at the kangertech POW 2 which looks ideal, but the reviews for it were rubbish...

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[Heather]

When I first started I was the same way and did not want a box mod. Eventually a year and a half later I now love them but I know where you are coming from. Eventually I got a Provari but they aren't really compatible with the new sub tanks (if you use the 1.2 coil they are but not the .5, although I did hear that there was an update so maybe now they are). They are expensive though.

 

[critterchugg]

Ive ordered the Tesla Sidewinder 2 for now but I may get the Provari later on down the track. The new Provari supports down to 0.9 and look very neat.

I don't really understand the difference between 0.5 and 1.2 other than the lower it is the more vapour clouds and more battery is used? I think I would be wanting the extra battery but like I said I am a noob vaper so I don't know which I would prefer yet.

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[Kennyp1956]

Hey guys. I have been searching but haven't found an answer. I am looking into the Kanger subtank Mini.
I just love everything about it, and about to order one but have a few questions first.

First off, I come from smoking Newports, so I am looking for a cooler vape than a lot of people seem to love. At the store by me, I tried a bunch of different setups, and the subtank mini wasn't bad when I turned down the voltage to like 20 watts on an istick 30 box battery. I also love the look and quality of the subtank mini and nano. But, please give me some advice if you can on the cooler vape. I also seem to prefer a tighter draw, like cigarettes, and the mini subtank with only one hole open seems to work good for me.

If I understand correctly, I will probably use the 1.2 ohm coil for cooler hits? I really want to get into rba also, but not if the rebuildables are only good for huge clouds and HOT vape.

Is there a way to shoot for a cooler hit with a RBA?

Another question also. I am in love with the ego ONE battery, in that beautiful small slim form factor with the subtank nano being the same diameter, it would just make the experience that much better for me, since form factor really means a lot to me.

But, is there any reason the ego ONE battery(unregulated, no variable voltage) wouldn't work? I mean, i still am unsure if I will like the 1.2 or .5 coils for the bit cooler hit, so I may have to run both with the battery. Everyone seems to recommend the istick 30, but I kinda hate the look/form factor of that setup.



I hope this all makes some sense, I really am desperate to place an order, but just don't have the funds to buy extra crap right now. And, Im not sure I will "love" the setup with the istick box style battery, and I really want to quit smoking. Having it on me all day and night, and using it is very important for me to be successful at quitting the cigs. So, please don't think me as offensive about the box batteries looking bad, its just my opinion. But I saw some pics of the nano with the ego One battery and i'm just in love.


If anyone can help me out, and save me from making a bad decision, it would really help out. The combo of these tanks and ego one just looks so nice. But, if the box type is a must, then I will have to live with that.

Thanks so much in advance. I am desperately looking and searching for my answers, but can't seem to find any real info on this.


Dave

I use the rebuildable rba on my sub mini at 15 watts. It's an 0.5 ohm and the cape is cool just the way I like it. I can't stand a hot or warm draw and I leave my airflow wide open. 15 watts is about as high as I go.

 

[Kennyp1956]

I have some mini subtanks -you can build the coils at the resistance you want, so you can customize them to anything you want. If you want a cooler vape of course you can also turn down the watts. If you don't want to use the RBA section you can just use the 1.2 ohm coil instead of the 0.5 for a slightly cooler vape. The Ego-One isn't vv, so you can't change the wattage/voltage, which means presumably that it'll be hotter when the battery is fully charged.

I agree that the Ego-one is pretty but I prefer the customization of the subtank and the Istick.

An I use a sub mini tank on a Nao mod?