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Just another fucking shill....!
BUt it's not a propellant. There is no propellant in ejuice or vaporizers. Propellant implies a pressurized gas or liquid used to force/spray the aerosol. NO such PV exists of which I am aware. And, someone studying them on a scientific basis should know the difference between a propellant and an aqueous solution. Anyone who is studying eliquid and PVs who does not know this can not be trusted for what else they do not know. I do, however, find it seriously alarming how many medical professionals do not know what "aqueous solution" means or of what it is composed. I have had to educate many doctors as to what things THEY PRESCRIBE FOR INHALATION contain Propylene Glycol and/or Vegetable Glycerin, including two pulmonologists.Actually PG (one of those "chemical propellants") is "a powerful deterrent against pneumonia" so I guess the quack that preformed the study missed this study.:
http://www.news-medical.net/news/20...s-might-keep-us-healthy-says-researchers.aspx
"Propylene glycol, the primary ingredient in the electronic cigarette cartridge, may be a powerful deterrent against pneumonia, influenza, and other respiratory diseases when vaporized and inhaled according to a study by Dr. Oswald "
BUt it's not a propellant. There is no propellant in ejuice or vaporizers. Propellant implies a pressurized gas or liquid used to force/spray the aerosol. NO such PV exists of which I am aware. And, someone studying them on a scientific basis should know the difference between a propellant and an aqueous solution. Anyone who is studying eliquid and PVs who does not know this can not be trusted for what else they do not know. I do, however, find it seriously alarming how many medical professionals do not know what "aqueous solution" means or of what it is composed. I have had to educate many doctors as to what things THEY PRESCRIBE FOR INHALATION contain Propylene Glycol and/or Vegetable Glycerin, including two pulmonologists.
Nah, PG and VG are used as carriers in meds, not propellants. The most ubiquitous use of PG and VG is in nebulizers. You know, the machines they give people with lung issues to help them get better. My father-in-law was on "as needed" nubulizer treatments for pulmonary fibrosis for years until he passed in August. My dad, too, was on "as needed" nebulizer treatments when recovering from the pneumonia he caught in the hospital after an appendectomy. So it's not like medical professionals should be unaware of the ingredients.
Yeah, but it's not like PG/VG are new in any sense of the word. Every doctor is familiar with aspirin, so should they be with things that have been around just as long (i.e. the doctor's whole life).Medical professionals are ungodly ignorant about the drugs they prescribe. They generally know only what the BP rep tells them; they don't have time to go looking shit up. Pharmacists know more about drugs than docs do.
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Yeah, but it's not like PG/VG are new in any sense of the word. Every doctor is familiar with aspirin, so should they be with things that have been around just as long (i.e. the doctor's whole life).
I agree, but the good ones, ime, are an extreme minority.There are some very skilled, and knowledgeable physicians out there. Not all however, are healers. Some however are. It is unfair to paint the entire medical community with the same brush.
The "researchers" on the other hand, who lie for profit have in my mind forfeited the right to call themselves Doctors. They have violated the foremost tenant of their oath.
First, do no harm.
I agree, but the good ones, ime, are an extreme minority.
My dad was almost killed twice (without exaggeration) by doctors and left lame (injury, poor set, Army Airborne jump), and eventually passed due to undiagnosed rectal cancer 8 months after his last colonoscopy. My mother died from stroke complications after having been denied a procedure she was "over the threshhold for" by minutes. My ex's father died (when we were still together) from a chronic duodenal bleed I told them to look years prior, which was refused. My wife had half of the placenta left in after her first. The doctor waived all fees and then put a lien on our house 15 years later after never having tried to collect. Our oldest was almost killed twice by misdiagnosed bronchitis (full blown, resistant pneumonia), our middle almost wound up with full blown sepsis from an appendix ready to burst after we were sent home with a diagnosis of "mild gas". And our youngest was almost killed before she was even born. In a hospital full of professionals, *I* saved her life because nobody took "she's coming" seriously, because nobody took, "the cord is wrapped around her head and neck twice" seriously, because only I had the presence of mind to prevent the birth while screaming at the nurses "you mean to tell me you can't find one fucking doctor in this whole fucking hospital".
Some may be good, most aren't even passable.
I printed out a couple of pages from the CASAA website and took them in, for his perusal... he filed them in my patient folder. Who knows, maybe he read them later, but I have no way of knowing.
Dont let up on him. Somebodys life might depend on it.
Everytime I've gone in there for the last 2 yrs, I tell every nurse I can get to hold still long enough. Since they really have more patient-contact than the doctor