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gtrovil

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Don't kill me just give me advice. One of these is being purchased tomorrow. So original Avocado or Thereom? Or neither if everyone hates both... Lol.


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I don't have the original Avocado, but got the 24 yesterday. I would rather have two of these than my Theorem.
 

gtrovil

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Yeah. I've kind of seen some back and forth that says this about both of them. Lol. But thanks Roxy. Both the Boreas and the Merlin are on my list btw. I'll get around to them.

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gtrovil

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And dammit I misspelled it twice. Lol

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roxynoodle

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Eh, spelling is hard for me, lol! I can only spell theorem because I'm a mathematician :)
 

gtrovil

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Well you knew what I meant. Heh. Still on the fence but based on your opinion now leaning towards Avocado.

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It's too bad you can't check them out from the library to try first :)
 

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I've got both the avocado and the theorem, and although the thereom can deliver on flavour I still prefer the avocado, it holds a lot more juice and the flavour for me is well on par with the theorem, also I find the avocado easy to build on and the AF adjustment is a hell of a lot easier to use and in my opinion better designed than the theorem, but the choice of course is up to you and so make sure you read up on both before committing to buy either of them :)
 

gtrovil

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Eh.... I like a challenge. I'll end up owning both eventually. I have a list of things on my mind to get at least one of before the apocalypse.

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The Theorem is a RTA that rivals some of the worst AFC controls Ive seen....Its a pain in the ass all around and I would grab a Avocado 24mm or HAZE RTA instead. Most people "loved" the Theorem RTA because its associated with Matt from Suck My Mod and Jaybo, I feel it was a huge let down just like the Notch coils...more positive reviews from reviewers that are won over by the makers and not the product itself...
 

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The Theorem is a RTA that rivals some of the worst AFC controls Ive seen....Its a pain in the ass all around and I would grab a Avocado 24mm or HAZE RTA instead. Most people "loved" the Theorem RTA because its associated with Matt from Suck My Mod and Jaybo, I feel it was a huge let down just like the Notch coils...more positive reviews from reviewers that are won over by the makers and not the product itself...

Glad I'm not the only who thinks that the AFC is bad, in my opinion I think that the Theorem designers had taken a step back in the design the this atty, it wouldn't of looked out of place 2 or 3 years ago but atty's have come a long way since then. It's just that I like Matt of suck my mods so much I just didn't want to place any negative comment on him, but sometimes you have just have to tell it how you feel :)
 

gtrovil

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Purchase will be for the 22mm original Avocado because that's what local shops currently have. I would do the 24 online but that's a whole lot of arm twisting on the part of my banker also known as my wife. I have a clandestine vape budget that is off the books. Lol. I have some good RTA's already but looking for something different. Sounds like it's going to be the Avocado.

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Hey guys I did this to my Theorem today. I added a direct airflow thru the glass

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I also closed of he top airflow. I tried it against my friends avocado and it the same. More clouds and better flavor than stock. Only diff is that I can see my build.

Id still buy an Avocado due to the 5ml capacity.
 

gtrovil

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I applaud your inventiveness! However, when I see something radical like drilling a hole that wasn't currently there? That pretty well answers my original question. Lol!

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Personally I find both to be nice. I like my Avocado more but that's because I like dual coil setups more. The way I see it they each have one thing that stands out as being better than the other. Avocado has great dual coil capabilities, I've run some pretty fun builds in it. The Theorem has an awesome wicking system.

As far as filling I find the Theorem easier compared to the Dual coil 22mm Avocado builds (24mm fixing this), but the Avocado in a single coil is right up there with the Theorem (both have little quirks that can be dealt with).

Flavor wise I think I'd give a slight edge on the Theorem in single vs single, but again the Avocado can rock the dual coils. I actually really like that top airflow thing, though I generally like my airflow more restricted.

In the end though I'd say Avocado. Still fiddling with my Theorem and I do like it, but if I had to choose...
 

Edd Harbin

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Ijoy limitless...... Best genesis style yet. You get full on air control , 4 plus mls , velocity deck , and you can still drop . Zero leaking ......
 

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I have both. I just boxed up the Theorem this morning. Probably that is where it will stay. I just don't like it much. But I know many who think it's the 'bomb'. Different strokes. I will take the Avocado over it any day.
 

gtrovil

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Silly rabbits! Tanks are tobacco products now. Duh. I bought the Avocado btw. Starting a single coil build in it right now. Then work my way forward from there.

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gtrovil

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Ok ladies... Thanks for all the advice the Avocado is a big hell yeah!

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AnthonyMods

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Don't kill me just give me advice. One of these is being purchased tomorrow. So original Avocado or Thereom? Or neither if everyone hates both... Lol.


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Hey bro the theorem gets a lot of hate but if you want to learn more about it let me know I have two and have done every type of build on it and I love it. People hate it because they are expecting an rta or because they don't take the time to adjust to it as thier is a learning curve. All I used to Vape is rda's and I only Vape two different e juices since I started vaping so I know flavor. Thier is no good rda's on the market that have build decks so close to the drip tip, the theorem gives off better flavor than any rta and is on par with every rda. People buy it expecting an rta but it's not a tank tanks lack flavor this thing is an rda with a big juice well. Like I said if you want to hear more let me know but don't listen to comments saying my glass broke, the airflows hard to adjust, it doesn't hold enough juice etc. those are comments from people who don't appreciate its innovative design and are looking for reasons to slag it off. As someone who really knows how to make this thing rock I know that the only real let down is the notch coil it ramps up too fast and frys the cotton but that's okay your not buying a rebuildable to not rebuild it... Right?
 

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I have both. I just boxed up the Theorem this morning. Probably that is where it will stay. I just don't like it much. But I know many who think it's the 'bomb'. Different strokes. I will take the Avocado over it any day.

Bigger tanks give less flavor people need to understand the theorem is an rda with a bigger juice well and if you build it right it will give you better flavor than anything on the market the coil is 1mm away from your lips and you don't get burnt. I thought I'd hate it because I can't run dual coils but I don't go to cloud comps because I'm not a **** and I found single coil can be better than dual depending on your setup I always Vape Clapton or twisted 28awg ss316L, 10 wraps, 3mm .5ohm single coil or occasionally duals in my theorems and I get in beatable flavor and a decent size DENSE warm cloud. I personally like it best with single airflow above the coil half open to get a nice slightly restrictive lung hit. I'm about to cum thinking about it. Don't judge. Everyone has different experiences with different products like the crown for example 50% loved it 50% hated it. With the theorem I get upset when people say it sucks because it does not and if it did it would not suck because " it only holds 2ml " or you can't do quad coils " people give dumb reasons as to why they think thinks suck.
 

Adam Paseman

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Agree. Love my theorem. Really don't see what all the hate is about, it clouds nicely and the flavor is insane.


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DP2Raja

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Don't judge. Everyone has different experiences with different products like the crown for example 50% loved it 50% hated it. With the theorem I get upset when people say it sucks because it does not and if it did it would not suck because " it only holds 2ml " or you can't do quad coils " people give dumb reasons as to why they think thinks suck.
As I said, different strokes...it is not judging you...the tank just doesn't fit my style. I ran it with the notched coil and with a 3.2mm ID clapton. For me the constant filling (every 30-40 minutes) is a pain. I am not a dripper. So even filling that regularly is just too often for my vape style. There is lots of flavor, but not the same complexity to the flavor I get with many other tanks IMHO. I put it away because it just doesn't match up to my type of vaping. I am really just saying that. Hell, it's a cute little tank. Enjoy it and try not to take it personally when some of us tried it and didn't find it was our "match". You probably wouldn't like the e-juice I make, but no problem, I love it. It is my style. That's all.

Peace to ya brother!
 

mcvigo

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Well mine got stolen and just ordered an avocado 24mm, It should give comparable flavor but much more durability due to tank size. The theorem made me hate my boreas, cause i was so used to the flavor and boreas could not come close to it.
 

DP2Raja

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LOL...well my Boreas kicked the theorem back into the box. No comparison...and there should not be. They are totally different vapes. I just prefer the Boreas. The complexity of the flavor and depth of the vape on the Boreas is more to my liking.
 

AnthonyMods

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As I said, different strokes...it is not judging you...the tank just doesn't fit my style. I ran it with the notched coil and with a 3.2mm ID clapton. For me the constant filling (every 30-40 minutes) is a pain. I am not a dripper. So even filling that regularly is just too often for my vape style. There is lots of flavor, but not the same complexity to the flavor I get with many other tanks IMHO. I put it away because it just doesn't match up to my type of vaping. I am really just saying that. Hell, it's a cute little tank. Enjoy it and try not to take it personally when some of us tried it and didn't find it was our "match". You probably wouldn't like the e-juice I make, but no problem, I love it. It is my style. That's all.

Peace to ya brother!

I got no problems with people who hate it I'm just a really good customer to have I guess because if I really enjoy something that someone hates I try to wrap thier head around why I love it and why you might not. Also with rda's and the theorem it kicks too much flavor ( when built right ) to run some of the over flavored juices on the market. I bought some juices I couldn't drip I'd have to put them in a crown or tfv4 because you can drown out flavor a bit more
 

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