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mattdarat

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I have a request from my wife for something with banana cream and vanilla cupcake in. Anyone have any ideas where to start with percentages. Maybe add other flavors. I get no one knows all my flavors but I'm looking for ideas and maybe something that could be good from the start that I can improve on. I'm mixing tonight so all help is greatly appreciated.

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Hillbilly Pig

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What are the flavor vendors? As that's usually a good rule of thumb to start with.
 
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mattdarat said:
Sorry both TPA. I only use FA and TPA isually

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Ah okay I love FA more than others as well.:) Hmm try:

4% banana cream
3% vanilla cupcake

Maybe that'll do the trick. Not entirely sure, don't work with TPA too often. I'd give at least 4 days to steep.:D
 
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TFA Banana Cream isn't very strong flavor for me so I'd be starting around 7%.
The Vanilla Cupcake is stronger so it may dominate at 3% so I'd reduce that to 2%.
Add 0.5% FA Coconut for some buttery-ness.
 
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Heabob said:
TFA Banana Cream isn't very strong flavor for me so I'd be starting around 7%.
The Vanilla Cupcake is stronger so it may dominate at 3% so I'd reduce that to 2%.
Add 0.5% FA Coconut for some buttery-ness.
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Didn't know that about the flavors, thanks for catching my mistakes.
 
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Frankm said:
I Vaped about 150ml of this mix. I'd try this as is first. Looking at the recipe, I can't help but think .25 - .5% tfa graham cracker clear would go good with this. Seems like I had to let it steep 3 to 5 days.

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I have everything but the coconut. I have FA coconut. Do you know how these 2 compare? I am steeping the 7% banana cream 2% vanilla cupcake and .5 FA coconut. Now so we shall see how that goes.

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I think fa would sub ok. Might need to drop the % a little...but I'm not sure. I believe that was one of the few recipes I used Inw coconut in.
 
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Frankm said:
I think fa would sub ok. Might need to drop the % a little...but I'm not sure. I believe that was one of the few recipes I used Inw coconut in.
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I find the FA and newer (reformulated) INW Coconut interchangeable in strength. The non-reformulated INW I feel had more flavor punch YMMV

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Heabob said:
TFA Banana Cream isn't very strong flavor for me so I'd be starting around 7%.
The Vanilla Cupcake is stronger so it may dominate at 3% so I'd reduce that to 2%.
Add 0.5% FA Coconut for some buttery-ness.
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Ok so this is great. I tried 5-7% bananas and cream with 2-4% cupcake. Never could get the balance right. What does the coconut do that made it work much better than ever? I am thinking maybe even another half% won't hurt. But I can't taste the coconut but it makes the difference and makes no sense.

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mattdarat said:
I can't taste the coconut but it makes the difference and makes no sense.
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At lower %'s and depending on other ingredients used, you don't always taste the coconut, but it does add a kind of creamy "buttery-ness" like Heabob wrote.
 
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That explains why the cake tastes slightly different. Although the vape seems drier it is very good. Do you think it would change the flavor much adding .5 or 1% FA marshmallow. I think that might make it a little sweeter and counteract the coconut dryness. Thoughts suggestions. This is a very productive thread for me

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mattdarat said:
That explains why the cake tastes slightly different. Although the vape seems drier it is very good. Do you think it would change the flavor much adding .5 or 1% FA marshmallow. I think that might make it a little sweeter and counteract the coconut dryness. Thoughts suggestions. This is a very productive thread for me
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the marshmallow prob won't make it less dry .. but will add sweetness.. for a touch of a wetter flavor try a bit of pear..a drop or three should do .. it melds well with the banana .. if I recall correctly, they share a similar or the same molecule in composition.
 
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Foggz said:
the marshmallow prob won't make it less dry .. but will add sweetness.. for a touch of a wetter flavor try a bit of pear..a drop or three should do .. it melds well with the banana .. if I recall correctly, they share a similar or the same molecule in composition.
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I do not have pear. I will add to my order today for bcv because of their generous donation to hurricane Harvey victims. For curiosity sake what flavors add wetness to juice?

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mattdarat said:
I have everything but the coconut. I have FA coconut. Do you know how these 2 compare? I am steeping the 7% banana cream 2% vanilla cupcake and .5 FA coconut. Now so we shall see how that goes.

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I had a look at his recipe in my e liquid app, and the last time I mixed it I replaced almond with 1.5% cap graham cracker v2. I didn't add any comments about how it turned out, but I believe it was ok
 
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mattdarat said:
But I can't taste the coconut but it makes the difference and makes no sense.
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I think of it as Coconut Oil flavoring when used in lower amounts.
(If I recall, that stuff didn't taste like Coconuts either)
If you want to taste the Coconut just raise the amount above 1%, (or add some INW Coconut).
Unfortunately I'm one of those that can't taste the Coconut part with FA at any amount.
Well, I haven't tried it at 10% yet:eek:
 
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mattdarat said:
That explains why the cake tastes slightly different. Although the vape seems drier it is very good. Do you think it would change the flavor much adding .5 or 1% FA marshmallow. I think that might make it a little sweeter and counteract the coconut dryness. Thoughts suggestions. This is a very productive thread for me

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For some, like myself anyway, adding some sweetness can "hide" the dryness somewhat.
Try adding 0.5% FA Marshmallow and 0.5% FA Meringue.
OR 1% TFA Brown Sugar OR 1% FA Jamaican Rum.
Just tossing out a couple ideas...
 
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Well as I have vapes 60ml and she has gone through 30ish of this with
7% banana cream
2% vanilla cupcake
.5% coconut

She loved it. She hates coconut and didn't notice it. I noticed a bit of dryness and a lot of change after another week or two. So steeping is about 3 weeks to get it completely steeped. Mixing also seems like it may be harder with this mix. I draw with a syringe from the bottom after a day of setting and the cupcake seems stronger at the bottom and the top has a more pronounced banana. I have to find a better way to mix rather than hand shaking. One complaint I had was dryness and mouth feel but I am working on that. I will be mixing a batch in the next day or so so I will take a look at what I can do to add a better mouth feel and less dryness and add a little TFA Brown sugar and a hint of Vienna cream to make the cream pop a little more. Next try recipe below let me know your thoughts.

7% banana cream
3% vanilla cupcake (bumped up slightly)
.5% coconut
1% TFA Brown sugar
1% Vienna cream

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For mixing better, get an electric mixer. I still prefer the ole handshake myself, but sometimes you have to use something better.
 
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Hillbilly Pig said:
For mixing better, get an electric mixer. I still prefer the ole handshake myself, but sometimes you have to use something better.
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Do you know of a place to get a cheap mixer? Maybe a brick and mortar so I can get it for my mix soon.

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mattdarat said:
Do you know of a place to get a cheap mixer? Maybe a brick and mortar so I can get it for my mix soon.

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You can get one from Liquid Barn. Might be able to get 'em from other places, but there ya go.
 
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