Can someone suggest a good Jolly Rancher flavor?

[dmagicp]

I am currently testing a few fruit flavors to use in a Jolly Rancher ejuice recipe. But what I am missing is something to give it that jolly rancher tangy sour taste. Someone suggested Flavor West's Hard Candy, and although it does have a nice candy flavor, it does not taste like a Jolly Rancher. Are there any suggestions that I can try? Thank you for the help in advance.

 

[lirruping]

Maybe fw hard candy + tfa sweet & tangy (or "sweetTart" or whatever tfa is calling it now... I haven't bought it in a while!).

Also, you can get crystalized/powdered malic acid at bullcityvapor.com and/or ecx. Dissolve some of that in PG (I did 1/4th tspn in 10ml, which I *think* is approximately a 10% solution, but you may want to check that. And I have read that most people use a 20% solution) and add a few drops to your liquid for a sour effect.

Easier, there are various "sour" products you can get. TFA has one for sure, by that name. I am pretty sure these products are either mainly or only a premixed solution of malic, but you can always ask the retailer if you want to know for sure.

Citric acid (also available as a powder dissolvable in PG) will also impart a tangy flavor, and in small amounts, can make fruit flavors "pop". I have found that it gunks coils pretty quickly, though.

 

[dmagicp]

Maybe fw hard candy + tfa sweet & tangy (or "sweetTart" or whatever tfa is calling it now... I haven't bought it in a while!).

Also, you can get crystalized/powdered malic acid at bullcityvapor.com and/or ecx. Dissolve some of that in PG (I did 1/4th tspn in 10ml, which I *think* is approximately a 10% solution, but you may want to check that. And I have read that most people use a 20% solution) and add a few drops to your liquid for a sour effect.

Easier, there are various "sour" products you can get. TFA has one for sure, by that name. I am pretty sure these products are either mainly or only a premixed solution of malic, but you can always ask the retailer if you want to know for sure.

Citric acid (also available as a powder dissolvable in PG) will also impart a tangy flavor, and in small amounts, can make fruit flavors "pop". I have found that it gunks coils pretty quickly, though.

Thank you for the reply! I have hard candy and it does taste good. I am going to be doing some cool stuff with that flavor, however I think that it is missing that jolly rancher pop that you get from the candies. I am going to start playing with Malic acid and see what I can come up with. Thank you for the suggestions lirruping.

 

[rolltidevaper]

Thank you for the reply! I have hard candy and it does taste good. I am going to be doing some cool stuff with that flavor, however I think that it is missing that jolly rancher pop that you get from the candies. I am going to start playing with Malic acid and see what I can come up with. Thank you for the suggestions lirruping.

If you like the JR Apple, DIYflavorshack has a great "sour apple". Becoming one of my favorite DIY's.

 

[lirruping]

Thank you for the reply! I have hard candy and it does taste good. I am going to be doing some cool stuff with that flavor, however I think that it is missing that jolly rancher pop that you get from the candies. I am going to start playing with Malic acid and see what I can come up with. Thank you for the suggestions lirruping.

NP & I wish you luck! If you nail it, please share the secret of that jolly flavor. I'd vape that.

 

[lirruping]

I'm guessing that using one of the major JR flavors--like watermelon, green apple or ... whatever that other one is (?) will be important, at least for the tuning stage of your recipe, because of associations. Like, for instance, I wouldn't start off trying to make a blueberry or strawberry JR because as far as I know, those don't exist, and you'll have no real reference for it, so it might be harder to pin down when you have the sweet/sour component right.

 

[dmagicp]

NP & I wish you luck! If you nail it, please share the secret of that jolly flavor. I'd vape that.

LOL I sure will. I am currently working on A Green Apple Now&Later (as you probably know) I watermelon Jolly Rancher, A tomato salsa, and A strawberry whipped cream doughnut.

 

[dmagicp]

If you like the JR Apple, DIYflavorshack has a great "sour apple". Becoming one of my favorite DIY's.

Thank you for this! I will definitely check it out.

 

[dmagicp]

I'm guessing that using one of the major JR flavors--like watermelon, green apple or ... whatever that other one is (?) will be important, at least for the tuning stage of your recipe, because of associations. Like, for instance, I wouldn't start off trying to make a blueberry or strawberry JR because as far as I know, those don't exist, and you'll have no real reference for it, so it might be harder to pin down when you have the sweet/sour component right.

Exactly. My palate is pretty well tuned due to being a chef so I can usually create something based on smell and memory. Like right now, I know exactly what the cherry jolly rancher tastes like from memory, but the problem is finding the right flavorings that will duplicate exactly what I know about the taste. I bet if I had access to one of those really expensive flavor companies like Givaudan, I could create some magical stuff to vape LMAO!

 

[lirruping]

Givaudan

I have never even heard of this one. Is it really special, do you think--or were you just kidding?

There is something to be said for higher quality flavorings, I'm sure. There's the "all natural" or organic angle, too. Medicine Flower, for example, are thought to be authentic-tasting, especially delicious, highly concentrated and expensive. I'd bet tho that most of the flavors we know by heart are combinations of "regular" food flavorings which have been around for a while, just because, well--some big company came up with the formula and is reproducing it at (presumably) low cost.

 

[skiball]

Could also check out oneonone flavors they have a couple jolly rancher flavs.

 

[dmagicp]

I have never even heard of this one. Is it really special, do you think--or were you just kidding?

There is something to be said for higher quality flavorings, I'm sure. There's the "all natural" or organic angle, too. Medicine Flower, for example, are thought to be authentic-tasting, especially delicious, highly concentrated and expensive. I'd bet tho that most of the flavors we know by heart are combinations of "regular" food flavorings which have been around for a while, just because, well--some big company came up with the formula and is reproducing it at (presumably) low cost.

No they are a real company, but they develop custom flavor profiles for large corporations. I don't believe they sell individual flavors at the consumer level. I was reading an article about them, and they were talking about how they developed a particular chocolate flavor. they said that they actually used a meat flavoring as one of the ingredients to develop it. That is fascinating to me.

 

[dmagicp]

Could also check out oneonone flavors they have a couple jolly rancher flavs.

Thank you for this.

 

[lirruping]

they developed a particular chocolate flavor. they said that they actually used a meat flavoring as one of the ingredients to develop it. That is fascinating

Wow, weird! But yes, I can almost see that, the way some chocolate is so dark and almost "meaty"... I wouldn't have thought of it, though. It reminds me to be more creative in my DIY